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    Editorial-Let illegal immigrants buy into health plans

    Let illegal immigrants buy into health plans

    Saturday, December 26, 2009; A22



    ONE KEY AREA in which the House health-care bill is superior to the Senate version involves health care for illegal immigrants. No, that was not a typo: illegal immigrants. Neither the House nor the Senate version would pay for health care for those who are in the country illegally -- although it could be argued that, to the extent they land in emergency rooms without health insurance, everyone ends up footing that bill. The question is whether those who are in the country illegally should be permitted to purchase, entirely with their own money, insurance policies available on the newly created exchanges. The House measure would permit such purchases. The Senate would not -- and the White House has unfortunately come down on the Senate side.

    The real solution to the problem of illegal immigration is, of course, comprehensive immigration reform. Until then, millions of people are and are going to remain in the country illegally: The Congressional Budget Office projects there will be about 14 million who are not elderly in 2019. Of those, according to the CBO, almost 60 percent, or 8 million, will be uninsured. If some are willing and able to purchase insurance through the exchanges -- and the CBO estimates that a few million would -- it makes no sense to bar them from doing so.

    In fact, allowing such purchases would benefit everyone. First, the more the ranks of the uninsured are reduced, the less the burden on hospitals and other parts of the health-care system to provide uncompensated care, the costs of which are passed on to other consumers in the form of higher prices and premiums. Second, illegal immigrants to this country tend to be relatively young and healthy. The more such individuals purchase insurance, the healthier -- and less costly -- the risk pool.

    The supposed danger of opening the exchanges to illegal immigrants is that they will somehow obtain government subsidies for the insurance. But of course this possibility exists whether or not illegal immigrants are eligible to participate in the exchanges. How much of a danger that is depends on the separate question of whether the verification requirements for citizenship or legal status are adequate. The Senate's approach, which would require proof of legal status to obtain insurance through the exchange even for those not seeking government subsidies, would impose an unnecessary layer of bureaucracy without any evident benefit.

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    I have a simple solution. Deport them. It really is as easy as it sounds. Also quit giving them food stamps, state aid, housing etc. It really can't be that hard. Don't you wish you could be president for a month. I think that is all the time it would take. You could end the war on drugs, prostitution, etc. You could end the wars in Iraq and Pakistan, soon to be Iran and bring our troops home. You could abolish the FED, Homeland security, Department of Education, Department of Health etc. I also think we should become more protectionist, stop the flow of immigrants. I think a five year moratoriam on these people would give us time to evaluate how many we should be able to let in without tipping our population, especially bringing in so many of one group.

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    KICK THE TRAITORS ALL OUT AND REPLACE THEM WITH PATRIOTS!!!!


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    The problem is that the majority of illegal aliens are collecting some form of taxpayer funded benefits thru their anchor kids, so it is OUR money they would be using to pay for insurance. This will enable them to ask for MORE money, because ya know, they're very "poor".

    The simple solution is to enforce our immigration laws and deport all illegal aliens, along with their families...we want them to be together.
    It was done before and it can be done again..round 'em up and ship 'em outta here!
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    They do not want to include illegal invaders because if they choose not to buy insurance, they would be faced with jail, just like Americans have been threatened with. The last thing our politicians want to do is offend or God forbid, put an illegal invader in jail.

    Besides, illegals already have health care in this country, paid for by the American people. It's called the emergency room and they take full advantage of it.
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    Re: Editorial-Let illegal immigrants buy into health plans

    The question is whether those who are in the country illegally should be permitted to purchase, entirely with their own money, insurance policies available on the newly created exchanges. The House measure would permit such purchases. The Senate would not -- and the White House has unfortunately come down on the Senate side.
    Let's see a single person is going to pay $15000 and a family of 4 about $25000. Why would an illegal making less than minimum wage pay that much when they can just walk into any hospital and get the same service for FREE? This author is obviously an IDIOT.

    The real solution to the problem of illegal immigration is, of course, comprehensive immigration reform. Until then, millions of people are and are going to remain in the country illegally:
    Oh AMNESTY? The REAL solution is pack all of these criminals up and send them back where they came from and then slam the border shut and not let them come back. Using your IDIOTIC train of though why don't we also legalize all other criminal activity? As long as we don't criminals will keep doing things illegal. Talk about putting your head in the sand!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    They do not want to include illegal invaders because if they choose not to buy insurance, they would be faced with jail, just like Americans have been threatened with. The last thing our politicians want to do is offend or God forbid, put an illegal invader in jail.

    Besides, illegals already have health care in this country, paid for by the American people. It's called the emergency room and they take full advantage of it.
    I only wish that were true but there's a provision in the bill that specifically exempts illegals from punishment for failure to buy insurance.

    They know the illegals won't buy insurance - why should they when they can get all their health care free at the local emergency room?
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