Thread: Immigration Is About People

Originally Posted by RoadRunner

Emiliano,
You seem to be having a problem with the 'illegal' part. You also seem totally oblivous to the stats on 'illegals'...at least 25% of them are felons.

100% of them are criminals deserving of punishment.

Here's another one: Here's another one.

Delia is a friend of Gloria. Gloria had told me that Delia was going to attend my English class and that is how I met her. This biotch had her first child at age 13. The father kicked it after it pooped on the bed. It took two days to die. She spent several years in Mexico working in restaurants before showing blatant disregard for our laws and everything decent by illegally crossing the border into California.

She is a cook, and when I met her she was working in a restaurant downtown. One Sunday morning I passed by there on the way to church. People were lined up in the rain waiting to get a table for brunch. At class there was this girl who worked at McDOnalds. I asked her if they permitted employees to get free food. Delia heard me and told me she was a food preparer at a restaurant. She asked me if I like ribs and shrimp. Well, the next day, to my surprise, she brought in a rack of ribs and some bbq shrimp. Although we've never been very close, she's always been a good friend.

One story she tells about when she was still illegal. She was applying for a job at a new restaurant, and she was afraid that they would not accept for false ID (chuecos). She was first in line and told them that she left her ID at home. As she was leaving she noticed that most of the applicants had chuecos and that the restaurant was accepting them. So she went back and got the job.

She's lost a few jobs because of her alcoholism that she's struggled with for years. Now she is in AA, and she is getting a handle on it.

Emiliano, I received your message where you said;

You said that I appear to be a racist. Please tell me why you belive that.
You also made the claim that you are not racist. Good for you. I never accused you of being racist by the way.


You made the following statements;


I heard last month that she finally became a US citizen. This shows just how generous our government is to permit this scum to live here and even grant her citizenship even though she is deserving of nothing better than spending eternity in HELL!!!!

and...

The US is generous enough to permit this demon deserving of Hell to live here. There are millions just like her that are turning our once beautiful country in to a third world trash heap.

In my book those are racist comments. I don't like illegals, but not because of their race. Illegals are white, black, brown and yellow. My beef with illegals is that they are in violation of federal immigration laws. I do not want them to be given amnesty because not only are you rewarding them, but you are rewarding the Americans that employ them. Our laws are simple. Follow them. If you don't, then you get deported to whatever country you came from.

Bottom line is, if you want to call them names, go to stormfront or some other racist site. Don't do it here.

Immigration is about people, but the United States isn't just about a paycheck.

Originally Posted by 82Marine89

Emiliano, I received your message where you said;

You said that I appear to be a racist. Please tell me why you belive that.
You also made the claim that you are not racist. Good for you. I never accused you of being racist by the way.


You made the following statements;


I heard last month that she finally became a US citizen. This shows just how generous our government is to permit this scum to live here and even grant her citizenship even though she is deserving of nothing better than spending eternity in HELL!!!!

and...

The US is generous enough to permit this demon deserving of Hell to live here. There are millions just like her that are turning our once beautiful country in to a third world trash heap.

In my book those are racist comments. I don't like illegals, but not because of their race. Illegals are white, black, brown and yellow. My beef with illegals is that they are in violation of federal immigration laws. I do not want them to be given amnesty because not only are you rewarding them, but you are rewarding the Americans that employ them. Our laws are simple. Follow them. If you don't, then you get deported to whatever country you came from.

Bottom line is, if you want to call them names, go to stormfront or some other racist site. Don't do it here.

I usually resond to personal accusations via private messages where it belongs, but this ignorant comment is something that we can all benefit from. Illegal immigrants are not limited to one race. The illegal immigrant population is made up of just about every race on the planet. Being against illegal immigration does not make one racist.

I usually resond to personal accusations via private messages where it belongs, but this ignorant comment is something that we can all benefit from. Illegal immigrants are not limited to one race. The illegal immigrant population is made up of just about every race on the planet. Being against illegal immigration does not make one racist.

So you can call people scum and say they are going to hell in public, but when you get called out on the carpet, you have to do it in private. Ain't gonna happen.

I gave you two quotes that I made my assessment of you from. I personally think you are a plant coming here to destroy this site. If you want to call me ignorant, fine. Since you can't properly respond to my above comment, I must assume you have lost the argument and will resort to unfounded name-calling from this point forward.

Originally Posted by Emiliano

Originally Posted by 82Marine89

Emiliano, I received your message where you said;

You said that I appear to be a racist. Please tell me why you belive that.
You also made the claim that you are not racist. Good for you. I never accused you of being racist by the way.


You made the following statements;


I heard last month that she finally became a US citizen. This shows just how generous our government is to permit this scum to live here and even grant her citizenship even though she is deserving of nothing better than spending eternity in HELL!!!!

and...

The US is generous enough to permit this demon deserving of Hell to live here. There are millions just like her that are turning our once beautiful country in to a third world trash heap.

In my book those are racist comments. I don't like illegals, but not because of their race. Illegals are white, black, brown and yellow. My beef with illegals is that they are in violation of federal immigration laws. I do not want them to be given amnesty because not only are you rewarding them, but you are rewarding the Americans that employ them. Our laws are simple. Follow them. If you don't, then you get deported to whatever country you came from.

Bottom line is, if you want to call them names, go to stormfront or some other racist site. Don't do it here.

I usually resond to personal accusations via private messages where it belongs, but this ignorant comment is something that we can all benefit from. Illegal immigrants are not limited to one race. The illegal immigrant population is made up of just about every race on the planet. Being against illegal immigration does not make one racist.

It is not the position of ALIPAC that all who are not Americans are scum, or demons, etc. Illegal aliens are criminals. Nothing more, nothing less.
You are walking the fine line Emilio, and though you may be skirting racism, it is definitely nationalism taken to radical extremes.

Such characterizations are not welcome here but probably would be with some of the National Socialist sites.

Tread lightly, we are watching closely.

As I have said to many foreign America naysayers. We have our problems, who doesn't? There is plenty going on at many levels I do not agree with.

I propose to them a world without it. Not the money, or the power.

A World without the SPIRIT!

A world without some Nation, with a People, that will STAND for the RULE of LAW, not men. Others do, but do they have the STRENGTH of this NATION? We should use our power wisely.

I reference Washingtons Farewell Address. Check it out.

What would happen? Who would fill that Spirit? Who has demonstrated the WILL?

We can't let it fade. There is so much more at stake.

My family has known total TYRANNY under arms. It 'aint pretty.

naturalglenn

Originally Posted by Emiliano

...how generous our government is to permit this scum to live here...

Wrong. Emiliano is the real bad guy. He vitriolically uses sarcasm, IMO very poor sarcasm, to encourage these desperate people to become felons in the US. My rhetorical question is why didn't Doris settle in Guatemala, Honduras or Mexico. The answer of course is obvious. Those countries are corrupt places that simply kill illegal aliens or extort their families. Someone needs to teach Emiliano the meaning of the term illegal.
Edited to remove the rude words scum, crap and holes.

hi all, just dropped in, been busy and all...

i used to write/read on the old decnet notesfiles in the late 80's early 90's... i have been away from the ether for a decade, but it apparently has changed little. as a (soap)boxer, a political notes file, i learned and used to my great enjoyment the exact tactic that our little pal has had tossed back onto his lap.

every responder represented themselv's in an admirable and dignified manner, not even one nibble. this shatters my planned strategy for a covert du infiltration; should these tactics be now known in that realm it could well be a personal disaster.

emil should be glad (s)he received the response (s)he did; my personal view (like howard rourke) is that this personality type deserves no thought or consideration... thinking about nonsense only causes anxiety and hatred... all the left has left have to offer humanity.

i am proud of the contrbutors i see here... my respect for this file just jumped tenfold.


with all scincerity and no fear

michael james mercier
danvers massachusetts

Emiliano wrote:

I usually resond to personal accusations via private messages where it belongs, but this ignorant comment is something that we can all benefit from. Illegal immigrants are not limited to one race. The illegal immigrant population is made up of just about every race on the planet. Being against illegal immigration does not make one racist.

Gee, now I'm confused. Throughout this thread in three separate posts Emiliano offered anecdotal evidence extolling the virtures and contributions of three different illegal aliens. IMO, that is fine to do as it is part of the total truth, just as it would be fine for somebody to offer anecdotal evidence of the less than virtuous behavior of other illegal aliens because that is part of the truth as well.

Emiliano concluded his posts (or at least 2 out of 3) by referring to illegal aliens as scum and demons, etc. I assumed that the "scum" and "demon" type comments were intended as sarcasm considering that they were in complete contradiction to the tone of the preceeding parts of his posts, an hyperbole of sorts meant to convey and emphasize that anyone opposed to illegal immigration would be cruel, mean-spirited, misinformed - whatever.

Now, Emiliano appears to be defending those opposed to illegal immigration, if not portraying himself as opposed to illegal immigration (and illegal immigrants), and thus associating his own negative comments about illegal aliens with those who are opposed to illegal immigration. Is there a plan here?

Perhaps Emiliano could state directly and publicly what he believes our position on illegal alien policy should be (and what his is too for that matter) and what attitude he has towards those who oppose illegal immigration -- just to clear things up.

Other than that, I'm out of this. Seems like a waste of time playing games.