Thread: Two former intelligence chiefs blast Trump over Russia comments

Two former intelligence chiefs blast Trump over Russia comments

By Eli Watkins, CNN
Updated 3:09 PM ET, Sun November 12, 2017

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"I do think both the Chinese and the Russians think they can play him," said James Clapper

Over the weekend, Trump had mixed remarks about Russian meddling and called the former intelligence officials "political hacks"

Washington (CNN)A pair of former US intelligence chiefs blasted President Donald Trump after he attacked them Saturday while discussing his recent conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Sunday that Trump's downplaying of the threat posed by Russia's meddling in last year's election was dangerous to US national security and allows countries like Russia and China to "play" the president, and former CIA Director John Brennan said Trump is allowing Putin to get away with Russia's efforts to disrupt the presidential election.

Speaking on CNN's "State of the Union" alongside Brennan, Clapper said: "The threat posed by Russia, as John just said, is manifest and obvious. To try to paint it in any other way is, I think, astounding, and in fact, poses a peril to this country."

Clapper, a CNN analyst, was responding to Trump's mixed comments about alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election.

'Giving Putin a pass'

Brennan said Trump was in effect "giving Putin a pass," which invited other countries to seek to sway Trump.
Clapper concurred, saying, "I do think both the Chinese and the Russians think they can play him."

Brennan said Putin's apparent success with Trump was due to his use of flattery and Brennan's suspicion that Trump "for whatever reason" might be "intimidated" by Putin.

"It's either naiveté, ignorance or fear in terms of what Mr. Trump is doing vis-a-vis the Russians," Brennan said.

President clarifies his Saturday statement on believing Putin

Trump, while speaking Sunday at a news conference in Hanoi, sought to clarify remarks he made a day earlier that suggested Russian President Vladimir Putin was being sincere in his denials that Moscow engaged in election meddling.
The President stressed he was not accepting Putin's denials at face value, instead saying he merely believed Putin was being genuine.

"I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election," Trump said. "As to whether I believe it or not, I am with our agencies, especially as currently constituted with the leadership."

But he again stopped short of stating explicitly that Russia was behind the interference in the 2016 presidential election, which US intelligence has determined was conducted to help Trump.

Trump on Saturday also dismissed former officials like Clapper, Brennan and former FBI Director James Comey as "political hacks."

The intelligence community released an unclassified version of its assessment in January, saying Putin ordered the election meddling to hurt Hillary Clinton's candidacy and bolster Trump's successful bid. Putin denies the accusations, and Trump has wavered publicly on his own stance.

Brennan said he considered Trump's attack on them as an attempt to undermine the credibility of that intelligence community report, which the former CIA director noted was written by intelligence and law enforcement officers, not himself, Clapper or Comey.

"He was referring to us as political hacks because he was trying to delegitimize the intelligence community assessment," Brennan said.

The Obama-era CIA chief added that he took the criticism from Trump with pride.

"Considering the source of the criticism, I consider that criticism a badge of honor," Brennan said.

Asked about his own knowledge of any potential collusion between Trump's associates and Russia, Brennan demurred, saying he had spoken with the congressional investigators, and went on later in the interview to praise former FBI Director Robert Mueller, who is leading the special counsel investigation.

Clapper said that although he had "no direct evidence of collusion" while still on the job, he did not know about former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos' activities, which were revealed last month in unsealed court documents. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty last month to making a false statement to the FBI after he lied about his interactions with a foreign contact close to the Russian government.

Since leaving government, Clapper said more information had come out that raises at least "circumstantial questions" about potential connections between Trump's associates and Russia.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/12/politi...ntv/index.html

You evil wicked "intel" buffoons have divided our country, weakened our Presidency, threatened foreign relations, compromised a vital relationship with Russia, deceived the people of both our country and the world, jeopardized free and fair elections, and have done so by violating our laws. Your day of reckoning and accountability for your crimes will soon surface and you'll regret the despicable treason both of you serve and foster.

Furthermore, there is no evidence or even proof of "meddling". Evidence and proof is NOT what an "intel" report says, especially if the report is written by the CIA or the FBI, it's the evidence and proof itself, none of which has been shown or revealed. Secondly, the CIA is NOT supposed to be involved in any domestic activity, it's purpose is solely off-shore and picking up spies in the US. Third, for any "intel" person, current or former, to claim that the outcome of a general election in the US is a threat to our national security, is the most horrendous thing I have ever heard. Voters decide these elections in connection with the Electoral College, and our decision whichever way it goes is NOT a threat to our national security or our "democracy", regardless of which candidate wins.

Here are the FACTS:

1. CIA lied about Syria
2. CIA lied about Libya
3. CIA lied about Egypt
4. CIA lied about Iraq
5. CIA lied about Cuba
6. CIA lied about JFK assassination

1. FBI lied about Martha Stewart
2. FBI lied about Ruby Ridge
3. FBI lied about WACO
4. FBI lied about leakers
5. FBI lied about Clinton emails

When you lie like this, lying about "Russian meddling in 2016 election" is like a can of play-doh at recess for these people.

So these fancy pant dandies, Clapper and Brennan, are in deep doo-doo if you ask me.

John Brennan, former Director of the CIA:

In 1976, he voted for Communist Party USA candidate Gus Hall in the presidential election; he later said that he viewed it as a way "of signaling my unhappiness with the system, and the need for change."[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan

When your Communist Party can't win a Presidential election in the US, you go to the next best thing, the DemoQuack Party.

Honestly, we confirmed a Communist to lead the CIA in 2013?!!! No wonder he speaks Arabic "fluently", loves China and hates the new Russia. Commie Pig!!!

Originally Posted by Judy

You evil wicked "intel" buffoons have divided our country, weakened our Presidency, threatened foreign relations, compromised a vital relationship with Russia, deceived the people of both our country and the world, jeopardized free and fair elections, and have done so by violating our laws. Your day of reckoning and accountability for your crimes will soon surface and you'll regret the despicable treason both of you serve and foster.

We can only hope there will be a reckoning -

It would take an entire page - or more - to list all the lies the so-called intelligence agencies have put out there and far too many Americans swallowed it and those of us who recognize it, but what do we do?

The death and destruction they have brought about around the world and in our own country is just mind boggling.

It just hangs out there until finally someone does show the lies and the attitude is 'Yeah, what are you going to do about it."