Important from team America - foreign tampering

From: "Linda Muller" <linda@teamamericapac.org>

To: team-america@teamamericapac.org

Subject: [TA] Damn Foreigners - Stay Out of Our Elections!

Date: Wed 03/30/05 08:46 PM


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Dear Team America,

Matthew Seeds, political director for the polling firm running the poll
just admitted in
the comments section on the home page that there have been 1295 votes
from Canada and 892
votes from Mexico.

In addition, I have received hundreds of emails saying that they tried
to vote but were
not permitted, even though they did not vote earlier in this poll.

Please contact the site administrator. Ask them to delete all foreign
votes. And if you
were unable to vote because you received a false, "you have already
voted" message, let
them know as well.

This site prides itself on a fair voting system. Tell them their survey
is neither
credible or fair unless they resolve these issues.

Tom Smith - President & Owner
Email: tom.smith@surveysaintlouis.com

Matthew Seeds - Political Director
Email: matthew.seeds@surveysaintlouis.com

Megan Werner - Media Relations
Email: megan.werner@surveysaintlouis.com

Team, these are just examples of some of the nonsense we are going to
have to overcome
when/if Tom Tancredo decides to run for President.

My question to you is, Are you ready to fight and fight hard if needed?

Personally, I pray that Tom jumps into this race and tears up Campaign
2008. I'm with him
all the way. How about you?

For the Cause, Linda

PS -- You can view the latest vote tallies here:
http://www.surveysaintlouis.com/marchma ... racket.php

My sample letter, note one of the intended recipients is female so Mr. is not appropriate, i.e. I mailed mine separately.

My sample letter, note one of the intended recipients is female so Mr. is not appropriate, i.e. I mailed mine separately.

Dear Mr. Smith:

You cannot imagine how shocked and outraged I was to hear that citizens of Mexico and Canada interfered in your public awareness poll: First Annual Presidential March Madness.

As a patriot I take umbrage at foreign nationals interfering with our national sovereignty, even in a Internet poll. You are a respected organization and it is important the Republican party clearly understands how their base truly feels on the subject of immigration and the presence of illegal aliens.

For many citizens, this is the single issue that will determine what candidate they vote for. The question the Republican party needs to face, is how many Republicans would in fact vote for Hillary Clinton is she promised to close the borders and push for immigration reform that did not reward law breakers with amnesty in any form, or guest worker programs, and reduced the total number of immigrants to our country under the auspice of preserving our natural resources and quality of life.

This interference by foreign nationals disrupts the ability of law abiding United States citizens to believer an important message to the Republican party.

I hope you will consider wither throwing out the foreign votes or tallying the results in two fashions: one that reflects the results from within the U.S. proper and the other reflecting "World Opinion"

Thanking you in advance for any consideration you give this matter,

I looked at the vote tally. It is VERY clear that skullduggery was going on when all others had a total of 5000 to 6000 votes but the one involving Tancredo had over 10, 000.

I just sent emails. If they do not alter this then let us all send out word to bad-mouth their site for lack of integrity.

This is just like illegals voting in US elections....which they definitely do.

Gang:

In response to the e-mail I sent, reference above, I received this response:

<begin snip>

There weren't any votes from outside the country. If there had been,
Survey Saint Louis, LLC would have not counted them. Thanks for your
concern.

Matthe

<end snip>

I emailed them about this and told them Hoosiers have already been disenfranchised by illegal aliens. Due to the presence of illegal aliens, California's population increased so much that they gained 3 electoral votes and 3 new seats in the US House of Representatives. That means that 3 states lost a rep and an elector. Indiana was one of them. Now, to have foreigners disenfranchise us in this internet poll was just too much! Canadians and Mexicans can't legally vote in our elections, at least not yet!

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Originally Posted by patriotman

Gang:

In response to the e-mail I sent, reference above, I received this response:

<begin snip>

There weren't any votes from outside the country. If there had been,
Survey Saint Louis, LLC would have not counted them. Thanks for your
concern.

Matthe

<end snip>

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Yeah, we should just take his word for it. :roll:

I tried again to vote this morning and it comes back with results and says I already voted when I know I DID NOT VOTE! This also happened to me in the one before this. I called the survery group and got voice messages!

I left a message this morning. I am fixing to go and try again. Will let you know if I have any luck!

Hello St. Louis Survey...

I wanted to vote for Mr. Tacredo and when I made the effort, I was rejected. Actually, I didn't have time to get back in and try again.. but I was not able to vote for my canidate.. and I am a Republican.

As we understand it, there were some 1200 votes from Canada and some 892 from Mexico. No wonder Mr. Tacredo lost... he is trying to control the borders and somebody doesn't want that to happen.

I am asking.. and will understand if it is rejected.. could you run that vote a second time and let those of us who were whanged get in to vote?

Sincerely,

My email sent, others can use this, but if so, change it. Sending a personal email is much better:

Hello Tom, Mathhew and Megan.

First off, I would like to preface that I have participated (correctly) in the poll and
grateful to be allowed to do so. I have been able to vote in each round, and have done so
ONLY one time (like anyone with any form of morals SHOULD).

However, I am GREATLY concerned with the total FRAUD that is being perpetrated on the system,
but allowing Foreign IP's to vote. This will TOTALLY void any validity that could be read from
a poll such as this. I STRONGLY urge you to immediately purge all verifyable votes received
from foreign sites. If this is not done, then I fear that the validity of your polling WILL
be totally lost. I am sure that you do not want that, since I KNOW that you have spent a large
amount of time (and probably dollars) putting together this poll. It would be quite a shame if
all of that work (and dollars) ended up being worthless, due to lack of validity.

I pray that this issue be resolved ASAP.

Name, address here

FWD:

---- orinal email here ----



H,

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Originally Posted by beaner

I looked at the vote tally. It is VERY clear that skullduggery was going on when all others had a total of 5000 to 6000 votes but the one involving Tancredo had over 10, 000.

I just sent emails. If they do not alter this then let us all send out word to bad-mouth their site for lack of integrity.

This is just like illegals voting in US elections....which they definitely do.

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Since it appears that they are continueing forward with this FRAUDULENT poll, I think it is time that the truth be shouted from the rooftops.

If the OBL is using foreign nationals to do their bidding, then it is time for American CITIZENS to call them on this. I am outraged!

IT IS OBVIOUS that such a huge difference in poll numbers between the races (wherever Tancredo was, had ben 50% to 75% above any other race), has shown just how large this cheating process was.

H.

I got this response from Matt and Tom:

There were NO votes from outside the country. This is a made-up claim.
We here at Survey Saint Louis would not accept outside the country votes,
for a NATIONAL Presidential , fun, little poll. Thanks for your concern.

I would like to see the original comments that Matthew apparently made where he wrote about the Canadian and Mexican votes. Does anyone have the link? I can't find it on the March Madness voting site.

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I would like to see the original comments that Matthew apparently made where he wrote about the Canadian and Mexican votes. Does anyone have the link? I can't find it on the March Madness voting site.

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I tried to find those comments as soon as I got the e-mail from Linda. I couldn't find them. I'm not saying they were never there, but I never saw them. You will probably have to ask Linda where she got the information.

I expected Tancredo to have an easy run against Barbour because I didn't think Barbour was that well know nationally. At least I haven't seen or heard hardly anything about Barbour in the last several years. It would be interesting to know what regions of the country the votes came from and how the polling firm identifies and eliminates duplicate votes which they supposedly don't allow in the first place. The fact that Barbour got so many votes compared to what he got in prior races seemed a bit suspicious -- but so did Tancredo to a degree. So, who know for sure.

You're right. Both Tancredo and Barbour got more votes than anyone in the other races. Perhaps both men have lots of supporters who want to see them run for president.

I couldn't bring myself to vote at all for some of the contestants, like Frist. I had barely heard of some of them. I couldn't believe newly elected people like Thune got the numbers of votes they got. He hasn't even had time to make a name for himself. Sometimes, it seemed like someone was out to vote for "anyone-but-Tom" Tancredo. It's just too easy to game the system. That's why we shouldn't have computerized voting in real elections unless there is a paper trail, like a 2-part receipt...one for the voter and one for the polling place in case a recount is needed.

A reason for the vote total differences......
Probably what happened is that many people only voted for
Rep. Tancredo and cast no other votes. I did that in the first
round because I was in a hurry and had to leave.
(I know that is bad form)

I did the same, only voted for Tancredo.
When he lost I stopped voting.

I have no intentions of voting for any of the Republicans that were listed on that poll in 2008.

I held my nose and voted for Bush because the alternative was sooo bad, I didn't vote for him the first time either.

I will vote for Tancredo or someone who thinks like him if he runs on the Republican ticket, otherwise I am going third party.

I am tired of having no choice.