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    Jill Stein says she'll 'escalate' Penn. recount case after earlier plans to drop it

    Jill Stein says she'll 'escalate' Pennsylvania recount case after earlier plans to drop it

    By Caroline Kenny, CNN

    Updated 10:13 AM ET, Sun December 4, 2016

    Washington (CNN)Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein said early Sunday she would "escalate" her statewide recount efforts in Pennsylvania through a federal lawsuit, after announcing she would drop it.

    Stein on Saturday cited a major cost placed on voters due to a state court ruling that says the voters requesting the recount must pay a $1 million bond. But shortly after midnight Sunday Stein tweeted about plans to continue on the recount bid.

    "On Monday, I will escalate #Recount2016 in PA and file to demand a statewide recount on constitutional grounds. The people deserve answers," she wrote.


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    A statement from the Stein campaign shortly after said it will file a lawsuit in federal court Monday seeking a statewide recount.

    "Over the past several days, it has become clear that the barriers to verifying the vote in Pennsylvania are so pervasive and that the state court system is so ill-equipped to address this problem that we must seek federal court intervention," said Jonathan Abady, lead counsel to the Stein recount efforts. "As a result, on Monday the Stein campaign will escalate our campaign in Pennsylvania and file for emergency relief in federal court, demanding a statewide recount on constitutional grounds."


    Stein earlier in the weekend had taken aim at procedural hurdles at the state level.


    "The judge's outrageous demand that voters pay such an exorbitant figure is a shameful, unacceptable barrier to democratic participation," Stein said in a statement. "This is yet another sign that Pennsylvania's antiquated election law is stacked against voters. By demanding a $1 million bond from voters yesterday, the court made clear it has no interest in giving a fair hearing to these voters' legitimate concerns over the accuracy, security and fairness of an election tainted by suspicion."


    Stein campaign spokeswoman Jordan Brueckner later clarified Saturday that while petitioners withdrew their case for a statewide recount, recounts in hundreds of precincts in some Pennsylvania counties -- including Philadelphia, Allegheny and Lehigh -- will continue. The campaign is also still pushing for forensic audits of voting machine software in the state.


    Stein tweeted that the expense of the recount was caused by elected leaders.


    "#Recount2016 is so expensive because of elected leaders who have refused to invest in a 21st-century voting system."


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    "This is about responding to the American voters who are standing up and saying, 'We deserve an election system that we can trust, and that is accurate, that is secure against hacking, against human error, against machine error, and in which the votes are being counted.' Because right now, it's not clear that all the votes are being counted," Stein said on "Fox News Sunday."

    Stein denied that the more than $6.5 million she's raised for the recount -- far more than the nearly $900,000 she collected for her 2012 presidential campaign and the $2.5 million she raised in 2016 as the Green Party nominee -- is a list-building fundraising scheme.


    "This money is going strictly into a segregated account which can only be spent on the recount. So, this money is entirely, will be completely used, and we'll be lucky if we can cover the costs," she said.


    Stein has spearheaded a recount effort in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin -- three battleground states where Donald Trump narrowly defeated Hillary Clinton.


    Pennsylvania is not the only state where recount efforts are running into opposition. Michigan's attorney general, a Republican, filed a suit to stop a recount in his state Friday and Trump supporters in Wisconsin this week have also tried to stop the recount in progress there.


    RELATED: Michigan attorney general files lawsuit to stop recount

    Stein raised nearly $7 million to fund the recount efforts, following news that security experts alerted Clinton's campaign to the possibility of hacks in key counties in those states.

    Despite the fact there's been no credible evidence so far of election tampering, Stein has maintained in recent interviews -- including with CNN -- "you cannot tell unless you're actually counting paper votes."


    Clinton's campaign has sent its lawyers to participate in the recount process to "ensure that it is fair to all sides," Marc Elias, the campaign's counsel, wrote in a post on Medium earlier this week.


    Trump has dismissed the recount efforts as a "scam."


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    Oh, that's shame, dragging it out after all.
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    "This is about responding to the American voters who are standing up and saying, 'We deserve an election system that we can trust, and that is accurate, that is secure against hacking, against human error, against machine error, and in which the votes are being counted.' Because right now, it's not clear that all the votes are being counted," Stein said on "Fox News Sunday."
    She missed an "error" - still no check for valid citizen votes.....bizarre. Non-citizens voting has already been exposed in Virginia and of course stein (hillary-soros) are not upset @ that but we the people ARE.

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    Did I imagine that Jill Stein has collected multi-millions of dollars in donations to pay for these recounts?

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    No, you didn't! She actually raised so far $6.5 million to do the recounts.
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    Do you have any idea how may hungry people we could feed with this total waste of money. That is what is wrong with our country today.
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    Yeah, I know lsmith1338. There is an organization that puts the beautiful wreaths on all the graves in Arlington National Cemetery every year at Christmas, and they were 68,000 wreaths short last week, so they put a plea out through Fox News for funds. It's $15 a wreath so less than $1 million to ensure all the graves have a pretty wreath. Jill Stein just raised $6.5 million to recount votes. So far in the Wisconsin count, Trump just increased his lead by 6 votes. That's so far $1,000,000 a vote versus $15 a wreath for our veterans at Arlington Cemetery.

    I wouldn't have a problem at all with the recounts if it was Hillary doing it. But for someone who is not a beneficiary of the outcome to do it, is just what Trump called it, a "scam".
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    Judy that is a lovely idea, that is what I am saying that money could have been used to do a great many things and it is wasted on this crap/
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    Yes, I agree. Americans have already spent a fortune on their candidates through the primary and then the General Election. Elections are important and of course we fight hard during the process, but once it's over, it's time to move on with other important work that needs to be done and there is so much to be done.
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