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    LA VOZ DE AZTLAN NEWS BULLETIN

    LA VOZ DE AZTLAN NEWS BULLETIN <>
    <><><> Los Angeles, Alta California <><><><>

    December 24, 2005
    >
    > Mexican-American news service falls victim of
    > government surveillance and intrusion
    >
    > On December 23, 2005, four agents of the US Secret Service
    > came to the headquarters of the news and information service
    > La Voz de Aztlan that has a website at http://www.aztlan.net
    > The agents requested access to the news service's computer
    > and they copied the entire contents of the hard disk with
    > electronic equipment they brought with them. They spent
    > about 2 hours in the computer room.
    >
    > While 2 agents where copying the entire computer's contents,
    > two others interrogated LA Voz de Aztlan news publisher.
    > Among many of the questions asked where the following:
    >
    > 1. What is the Aztlan movement?
    > 2. Who are members of the organization?
    > 3. How do you obtain the information published on the
    > website?
    > 4. Do you owned any weapons?
    >
    > There were in addition many questions of a personal nature
    > asked of the publisher. The government agents already had
    > information which indicated that surveillance and prior
    > investigations had taken place.
    >
    > Of primary concern to the Department of Homeland Security
    > special agents was a report published at
    > http://www.aztlan.net/juba_video.htm
    > The report has been removed and a notice substituted
    > to explain its removal to La Voz de Aztlan readers.
    >
    > The special agent in charge of the operation was in constant
    > communication, through a hand held device, with others
    > outside the headquarters of La Voz de Aztlan. This
    > operation by the government may be related to the recent
    > revelation that the Bush Administration has been spying on
    > American citizens without judicial permission.
    >
    >
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    > La Voz de Aztlan
    > Website: http://www.aztlan.net
    > Contact: http://www.aztlan.net/contact/contact.htm
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    This is good news. I just wish they had shut them down. aztlan.net makes terrorist threats on a regular basis and they have been reported to DHS on numerous occasions.

    Anyone here remember when they threatened the food supply in Vegas during the Unite to Fight Summit?

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    Yep, I remember. Too bad they didnt shut them down. Perhaps they will have enough on them after they go through those computers.
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    I have a problem with this. If these people are illegal aliens, they need to be deported not have their computer copied. This is an example of this Presidency totally off its rocker breaking one set of laws (spying on Americans) because they failed to enforce another set of laws (US Immigration Laws).

    If these people are illegal aliens they shouldn't be here to begin with. If they are "dangerous" illegal aliens, they need to arrested and deported immediately.

    That is what our US immigration law exists for--to keep them out to begin with, not dance around studying computer disks--GET THEM OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!

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    Some material has been removed from their site.

    There is a google Cache of the info here although the video does not work.


    Juba Video Clip
    http://aztlan.net/juba_video.htm

    They also pulled down a previous story called

    Highly trained Islamic snipers on their way to the USA

    Here is the Google Cache

    http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:Rz ... n&ie=UTF-8

    We could archive the text here. Does anyone see any problems with that? I wonder if the Secret Service wanted this info down or if the Aztlan radicals decided to pull the text due to the heat?

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    The Aztlan.net website is correct.

    Google searches of Juba The Bagdad Sniper do yield more video results althought it appears to be coming down in some locations.

    WARNING, this is some rough stuff. Here is the 15 minute video.

    http://media.putfile.com/JUBA-Sniper
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    The one guy who runs Aztlan.net is not an illegal alien, he is an anchor baby who went to college paid for by US taxpayers. All I can say is this seems to be once case where the Patriot Act is appropriate.

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    Well, I think that La Voz Aztlan is on the edge, but they have freedom of speech too. I mean, there're many KKK and Nazi websites all around in the US. And they are left alone too, so why not La Voz Aztlan. all those groups are assholes, but still have the freedom of speech too.

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    returning_resident,

    Freedom of speech ends when you start making terrorist threats. Aztlan.net has made several terrorist threats against US citizens.

    You should explore their site more before taking up for them.

    We want them SHUT DOWN.

    They openly advocate that the SW United States be removed from our nation and given to illegal aliens.

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    The video was kind of BLURRY on my computer. Where was this happening? I didn't watch the whole thing.

    MY GUESS, Judy, is that AZTLAN is made up of LEGAL, MILITANT HISPANIC CITIZENS who are just SUPPORTIVE of illegals but I don't KNOW that. MY guess would be that there would have been nobody in their headquarters that who were deportable?????

    ALSO--NOTE that this SPYING was NOT DONE by NSA but by the FBI and THEY ARE CHARGED with doing this sort of thing WITHIN THE COUNTRY. The NSA spying was OUTSIDE their purview when THEY SPIED ON AMERICANS IN AMERICA because THEIR responsibility, in my understanding, is INTERNATIONAL spying rather than DOMESTIC SPYING. The criteria for the FBI spying operations is different than that of the NSA and I would be willing to BET THEY had a warrant to search the place. I don't THINK that the FBI goes through the FISA Court. ANY CONFIRMATION OF THAT from any of you who have served in law enforcement??? I would THINK they would go to a regular judge to get a search warrant and I haven't heard anything about the FBI ABUSING the spying system.

    It seems to me that THIS INCIDENT WOULD be a legitimate use of the law on spying within the country because this organization is one that is militant, violent and has made threats against Americans AND they operate IN OUR COUNTRY so I would THINK the FBI was doing THEIR job on this one.

    CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG! I would just think this would be similar to the FBI spying on the Mafia or something like that.
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