Thread: TX: Chertoff & Perry's letters to each other

The letters are in pdf:

http://images.chron.com/content/news/ph ... ertoff.pdf

http://images.chron.com/content/news/ph ... /perry.pdf

Hasn't Perry been rather favorable toward illegal aliens?

I seem to recall that he has opposed trying to reverse the abuse of the 14th amendment, was behind illegal aliens receiving in state tuition, backed the failed amnesty attempt, and a few other things.

If that's the case, why is he so suddenly going after ICE and the government in general for not doing their job?

Or do I have him confused with someone else?

Surprisingly, I thought Secretary Chertoff's response to Gov. Perry was very good. Chertoff actually called Perry out on his lack of support for securing the borders (good for Chertoff).

Secretary Chertoff was far from perfect as the head of DHS but I believe we're going to deeply regret his leaving the post after a year of Arizona Gov. Napolitano.

Mark my words, Napolitano will be worse than Chertoff, much worse.

After reading Chertoff's entire letter to Perry, i think Chertoff's response was a well-mannered kick in the balls & stinging double-face-slap (as it takes at least 2 slaps to a 2-faced phony like Perry).
This time next year - Chertoff will look like Tancredo compared to the Illegal-hugging Gov of AZ that's supposedly taking over DHS for obama.

Originally Posted by azwreath

Hasn't Perry been rather favorable toward illegal aliens?

I seem to recall that he has opposed trying to reverse the abuse of the 14th amendment, was behind illegal aliens receiving in state tuition, backed the failed amnesty attempt, and a few other things.

If that's the case, why is he so suddenly going after ICE and the government in general for not doing their job?

Or do I have him confused with someone else?

You are right on about Perry. He has done nothing since he has been in office but be a yes man to everything Bush wanted to do. The only reason Perry is doing anything now is there was so much public pressure on him.

Originally Posted by bigtex

Originally Posted by azwreath

Hasn't Perry been rather favorable toward illegal aliens?

I seem to recall that he has opposed trying to reverse the abuse of the 14th amendment, was behind illegal aliens receiving in state tuition, backed the failed amnesty attempt, and a few other things.

If that's the case, why is he so suddenly going after ICE and the government in general for not doing their job?

Or do I have him confused with someone else?

You are right on about Perry. He has done nothing since he has been in office but be a yes man to everything Bush wanted to do. The only reason Perry is doing anything now is there was so much public pressure on him.

That's what I thought.

Given that, I thought Chertoff's return letter to him was excellent. He.....very tactfully of course...... threw it right back into his face that DHS, and ICE, have not exactly gotten the kind of cooperation from the state of Texas that it takes to get the job done.

Good for Chertoff!! Let Perry stick that in his rucksack and , , ( a little rebus first thing in the morning gets the brain moving )

It doesn't take much to see right through Perry. He's all kinds of concerned now that a very ugly truth has been exposed, figuring that obama isn't going to do anything about IAs except encourage them and then he thinks he's off the hook.

Perry isn't a very bright one if he doesn't see how transparent he is

The only reason Governor Perry is trying to deflect blame to Chertoff is because of the outrage in Texas that they both have been letting illegal alien felons out of jail without deportation to go on to victimize innocent Americans.

Both these traitors need to be fired and investigated.

The illegal immigration debate has been raging for the last four years and all those illegals walked out of Perry's jails under his watch.

Everyone knows Chertoff is a sellout two faced agent of the Open Borders Lobby and Perry is just mad that he has been busted too!

Perry Vs. Chertoff is simply the kettle calling the pot black.

W

Related article:

Deportation efforts defended
Chertoff's letter to Perry reveals a clash of the titans
By JAMES PINKERTON Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Nov. 21, 2008, 11:24PM


U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff fired back Friday at Gov. Rick Perry's sharp criticism of federal efforts to deport illegal immigrants booked into Texas jails.

Chertoff sent Perry a four-page letter defending what he termed as aggressive and expanded efforts by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to remove illegal immigrants, while complaining of a lack of cooperation from local law enforcement who jailed them for criminal offenses.

"ICE, however, cannot remove and deport criminal aliens in State or local jails that it does not know about,' " Chertoff wrote. "State and local officials have to be willing to share that information in a timely fashion in order for such removal to take place."

Perry blasted DHS after a three-part Houston Chronicle series published last week indicated only one of four illegal immigrants booked into the Harris County Jail were processed by ICE for removal, allowing a number of immigrants to be released who later committed serious crimes.

The governor characterized the ICE removal operation as a "de facto catch and release program," and asked that ICE provide all Texas law enforcement agencies with access to an immigration database that contains fingerprints of immigrants with criminal records.

"I am outraged to learn that thousands of criminal aliens in our Texas jails who should have been detained, removed and deported ... were instead released back onto our streets after they completed their jail sentence," Perry wrote in a Nov. 18 letter to Chertoff.

Friday's letter from Chertoff was a continuation of a clash between the two officials, and followed Perry's ire on Thursday when DHS officials confirmed Texas would get a lower level of reimbursement for debris removal than Louisiana received after Hurricane Katrina.

In his letter, Chertoff said newspaper reports "fail to state that Harris County did not share with ICE existing lists it maintains of detainees who reported they were foreign born." Chertoff said the agency only received the list from Harris County on Nov. 18, and is vetting the database to determine the immigration status of each detainee.

Spurred by officer's death
Harris County Sheriff's Office Capt. John Martin said the department first began asking non-citizens booked into the jail about their legal presence on Sept. 29, 2006. The new policy was implemented after the murder of Houston police officer Rodney Johnson earlier that month by an illegal immigrant who was previously convicted of a crime, was deported, and returned to Houston.

Martin confirmed ICE was not given a list of all those who had acknowledged they were here illegally, but added that ICE agents stationed in the jail were notified immediately of the inmate's immigration status as the jailers learned of it.

"That information was provided to ICE as we obtained it, but we had not provided all of that information in one continuous list," Martin said. "The information that is in the list that Secretary Chertoff was referring to was provided on a daily basis, as it was obtained."

Perry spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger said Perry took issue with sections of Chertoff's letter, including his claim some Texas law officials, whom he did not identify, are not receptive to installing links to ICE fingerprint database in other Texas counties.

"As you know, such cooperation has not always been forthcoming in some parts of Texas," Chertoff wrote.

In October, Harris County was the first jail to partner with ICE in its Secure Communities Program, a nationwide system that allows local officials access to FBI and ICE fingerprint and biometric criminal databases.

"Honestly, we don't know, or are aware of, any law enforcement entity in Texas that would not want to have more information at their fingertips to protect their community," Cesinger said.

And, Perry has long pressed DHS for that type of access to criminal databases so officers can "connect the dots," she said.

"The governor has been pushing for this information-sharing from DHS for over two years now," Cesinger said.

"If someone is brought into a jail, and that law enforcement entity has access to the federal database with information whether that person is a criminal alien, then the referral to the appropriate federal authority can happen immediately. Without that information, law enforcement doesn't have the tools they need, and should have, to protect their communities."

Immigration detainers
Chertoff noted that Congress provided $200 million this year for the fingerprint database sharing program, and supplied an additional $150 million in the next two federal fiscal years.

"ICE's multi-layered approach to the criminal alien problem is already producing results both in Texas and nationwide," Chertoff told Perry.

In Houston, ICE detention and removal agents filed more than 7,206 immigration detainers against illegal immigrants booked into the Harris County jail from Dec. 29, 2007 to Nov. 10, Chertoff wrote. ICE officials file immigration detainers to hold jailed immigrants so they can be deported or prosecuted on immigration charges after local charges are resolved.

Chertoff's letter also outlined recent steps ICE and Harris County have taken to remove illegal immigrants with criminal records, including the deployment of 10 ICE agents to the jail and the training of county jailers to process ICE removal paperwork.

"To correct the problem at its source, Harris County and the City of Houston have recently agreed to work with ICE on a series of actions that were not fully acknowledged in the press reports," Chertoff wrote.

Martin said the sheriff's office and ICE not only have "a long history of working very well together" but have improved methods to screen illegal immigrants booked into jail.

"Collectively, we have gotten much better in recent years in identifying illegal aliens being booked into the Harris County Jail, as evidenced by the significant increase in the number of detainers (immigration) being placed on inmates," Martin said. "We have every reason to expect that good working relationship will continue for the foreseeable future."

james.pinkerton@chron.com
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6126493.html

Perry is weak on illegal immigration. He uses the multi-million dollars funding packages for border security that he signed as evidence he is still a Republican. He spends too much time consulting and pandering to the border region officials and the Chamber of Commerce. One of those border sherrifs Reymundo Guerra has been arrested for assisting the Gulf Cartel. He was a member of the Texas Border Coalition, which Perry has passed out money to the members to "sercure the border". You can not keep Texas safe by doing it the border region way.

Dec. 6, 2006
AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry sharply criticized several immigration proposals Wednesday, saying "divisive" ideas – such as a wall along the border, cutting off public education for illegal immigrants and taking away "birthright citizenship" – should give way to "real solutions."

"Any of those types of legislation that create divisions are bad," Mr. Perry told reporters at a meeting of public officials from the border region. "We need to look at ways to be bringing people together, rather than driving wedges between them."

...He signed a law allowing illegal immigrant students to pay in-state tuition as long as they're pursuing citizenship. He's criticized the proposed wall along the Texas-Mexico border as "preposterous" and "ludicrous."

But he also vetoed legislation to let illegal immigrants get driver's licenses, and he openly opposed allowing them to use the Mexican consular ID as a form of government identification.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 08679.html

Perry was George Bush's Lt. Governor, so now you know what we are up against. RINOs flock together.

Why hasn't Perry sent any Texas lawmen to the 287(g) program? If he were really on board with enforcing federal immigration law, wouldn't that be a first step?

Dixie

They have had 7,8 years to secure the border hold businesses accountable for hiring illegals and enforce our laws....it doesn't take much to notice our problems keep getting worse in towns all across this country, no longer just the border states.

Thess two are part of the problem and most certainly not the solution...its just more hot air and Rhetoric. They let special interest groups get away with spewing the racial profileing crap so they don't have to enforce the laws , when 80 per cent of illegals are from Mexico and Central America....It is a joke and ......

THE JOKE IS ON US, AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!