Thread: "Underpriviliged" American Families

Okay...will somebody PLEASE tell me just WHAT an "underpriviliged American Family IS??

I keep hearing this same ad on our local radio station....it's basically soliciting donations for "underpriviliged American families" who will be going without this Christmas.

And you know what? That OFFENDS me. I mean, if poor families in the U.S. are where they are because they lack "priviliges" then does that mean I am where I am because I've been priviliged?

And just what ARE those so-called "priviliges" that I have that many other Americans don't have?

I grew up in a middle-class family, attended public school, went to a community college, which I paid for by working, and then went to a State University that I paid for by working and with student loans (which I have since repaid in full).

I have a full-time job, live frugally, and never had children I couldn't afford. I take full responsibility for myself. Does that make me priviliged??

And for all those poor American families who aren't making it....is it because they lacked the same priviliges I had? With VERY few exceptions, I very seriously doubt that underpriviliged families are actually lacking the same priviliges that other American families have.

So quit trying to make me feel guilty by insinuating that I somehow am where I am today because I had more priviliges than some other Americans.

And NO. I won't give one red cent. Not one dime. Nothing. I never asked anybody to give me anything. I believe people should take responsibility for themselves. There are obvious exceptions to this, but they are rare exceptions.

Thank you for letting me rant.

END THE WELFARE STATE.

Let me try to put this in context for you

The grocery buisness use to be full of $15-$20 hour jobs

They were a supplier of very solid middle class jobs with fair to
good bennies

Well all that changed a few years ago ,
Now you have 60-70% of those jobs going to illegals with
fake docs that are making $8 hour

With the cost of living how many Americans can survive on
$8 hour?

Yet you could make it on $15-$20 hour
I will not say under privledged Amerians
More like many Americans are not getting the same shake some
of us got

As a kid I picked fruit , I cut and stacked cordwood , did all sorts
of menial jobs , But I was lucky enough to learn a trade that
paid very well for 30 years , now I can be retired at 52

And this is just one business

How many Americans no longer have the opportunities we had

I have friends that apprenticed to construction trades , now its not worth it and besides , you can't get a job anyway unless your illegal

All good solid middle class jobs that we have lost to foreign nationals

Don't you just love all the euphemisms - or doublespeak - we have these days.

You know we used to call them needy, in need, or poor. This would be the only true reasons for being charitable. What's wrong with telling it like it is?

I don't equate being poor in the U.S. with being "needy". If you live in the U.S. (now I'm speaking only of people who are living in the U.S. LEGALLY), then you have every opportunity you could possibly have. And if you're poor, then you're not "needy" you're just plain stupid.

This is the easiest country in the world to make it in. Look at all the people who want to come here? So I just can't imagine how a bonafide American citizen could be poor (in the truest sense of the word). And yet we DO have many poor families in the U.S. But their poverty is their fault and not some sad consequence of their lack of "priviliges".

And when we give and give and give to these poor U.S. families, you know what happens? We perpetuate MORE poor U.S. families.

END THE WELFARE STATE IN THE U.S. AND YOU'LL END POVERTY IN THE U.S.

Originally Posted by americangirl

I don't equate being poor in the U.S. with being "needy". If you live in the U.S. (now I'm speaking only of people who are living in the U.S. LEGALLY), then you have every opportunity you could possibly have. And if you're poor, then you're not "needy" you're just plain stupid.

This is the easiest country in the world to make it in. Look at all the people who want to come here? So I just can't imagine how a bonafide American citizen could be poor (in the truest sense of the word). And yet we DO have many poor families in the U.S. But their poverty is their fault and not some sad consequence of their lack of "priviliges".

And when we give and give and give to these poor U.S. families, you know what happens? We perpetuate MORE poor U.S. families.

END THE WELFARE STATE IN THE U.S. AND YOU'LL END POVERTY IN THE U.S.

I'm sorry americangirl, but unless you've walked a mile in their shoes, you have no grounds to pass judgment.

My own story has been posted here in full, and even placed into the Congressional record by DA King when he testified to Congress about the illegal alien problem in Georgia. To recap, I grew up in the construction trades, which in the 60's and 70's was an honorable profession that allowed a middle-class standard of living. I've watched it turn into a job that can't support a family because of all the illegal aliens doing the work for less and less.

I watched a landscaping company that I founded go under because I couldn't compete with others who hired illegals for $6 an hour and undercut my bids.

I know MANY families that have lost homes and cars because their jobs were given to illegals so the 'boss' could make a bigger profit at their expense.

Try to empathise with that, especially during this time of year.

Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys

Originally Posted by americangirl

I don't equate being poor in the U.S. with being "needy". If you live in the U.S. (now I'm speaking only of people who are living in the U.S. LEGALLY), then you have every opportunity you could possibly have. And if you're poor, then you're not "needy" you're just plain stupid.

This is the easiest country in the world to make it in. Look at all the people who want to come here? So I just can't imagine how a bonafide American citizen could be poor (in the truest sense of the word). And yet we DO have many poor families in the U.S. But their poverty is their fault and not some sad consequence of their lack of "priviliges".

And when we give and give and give to these poor U.S. families, you know what happens? We perpetuate MORE poor U.S. families.

END THE WELFARE STATE IN THE U.S. AND YOU'LL END POVERTY IN THE U.S.

I'm sorry americangirl, but unless you've walked a mile in their shoes, you have no grounds to pass judgment.

My own story has been posted here in full, and even placed into the Congressional record by DA King when he testified to Congress about the illegal alien problem in Georgia. To recap, I grew up in the construction trades, which in the 60's and 70's was an honorable profession that allowed a middle-class standard of living. I've watched it turn into a job that can't support a family because of all the illegal aliens doing the work for less and less.

I watched a landscaping company that I founded go under because I couldn't compete with others who hired illegals for $6 an hour and undercut my bids.

I know MANY families that have lost homes and cars because their jobs were given to illegals so the 'boss' could make a bigger profit at their expense.

Try to empathise with that, especially during this time of year.

PineStrawGuys, in both my posts I indicated that there ARE exceptions, and that there are genuinely "needy" people in the U.S. who, for whatever reason, do not have the same priviliges (or they lost those priviliges) as other Americans. But I believe these cases are the rare exception, and not the rule.

And I don't believe the "underpriviliged" in the U.S....those to whom the charity and welfare goes to, are people like you. You're not where you are today because you lack "priviliges". You're where you are today because you're getting screwed over by illegal aliens and the traitors who hire them.

americangirl

And if you're poor, then you're not "needy" you're just plain stupid.


Oh, I disagree totally with this - if it is a blanket statement. I know a lot of people who are/were poor due to medical bills. It would be nice to say they should have had insurance, but even having insurance doesn't do the job.

Due to medical malpractice, my DIL was turned into a semi invalid and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills.

They damaged nerves in her back, did unnecessary hysterectomy and gall bladder removal (convinced her that was the problem), then from some minor surgery contracted on of the virulent staph infections, almost died, then found she had a brain tumor, the neurologist said sometimes a really bad infection can cause a tumor.

Although working 16 hours a day, it broke my son and almost broke us.

She is still a semi invalid, takes very expensive medication,

They are not stupid, they are not lazy, and they worked their way out of it - but if they had not had extended families to help, they would have absolutely been 'poor and very needy' - and were for a while.

This is not all that unusual either.

They did not take welfare.

Things happen in life and people do become poor - and yes they become needy or in need.

A lot of the people 'who want to come here' do so because they are not faced with the same taxes, rules, etc., that Americans are. Americans don't get quite all the goodies that the ones who come here do. America is ripe for the taking, that's why a lot of them come here. It's much easier to 'make' it here if you don't have to worry about paying medical bills, taxes, having driver's license, buying food, get help with your housing, etc.

That's not always available for Americans -

I agree we need to end welfare as we know it. It is a burden to the American people and a waste of human potential.

nntrixie....again, I concede that there ARE genuinely needy people in the U.S. And AGAIN, I contend that this is the rare exception and not the rule.

But we're talking about "priviliges" here. When you cite tragedies like families stricken with medical crises, you're not talking about an "underpriviliged" family.

Try not to veer off my point here, folks. I'm talking about "priviliges".

My husband and I are poor according to our very modest income; but we have everything we need and then some. We own our vehicles and our home and have one credit card.
It irks me that our locals are pushing to adopt families for the holidays. I can see donations for children, so they have something to open at xmas but a whole family?? Give us a freaking break. Another thing that bothers me is this whole thing about food. If somebody is hungry we provide kitches where they can get a meal. But the idea that every poor person has to be provided with a turkey or ham disturbs me. I'm a vegetarian that shuns meat because of the cruelty; give these people some rice and beans. If they a really hungry they'll appreciate it. If not, screw em.

Americangirl. You need to reread the post by usanevada. And if you still don't understand it, you should have someone explain it to you.
The loss of American jobs and a decent way to earn a living for the average American citizen is one of the big reasons we're concerned about this whole thing. Its a matter of survival and American families are losing out to the illegals.