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    Caravan migrants different, more violent, than previous migrant groups -U.S. military

    Caravan migrants different, more violent, than previous migrant groups -U.S. military

    Apparently, there's more of a threat from the migrant caravans than the press is letting on.


    November 1, 2018
    By Monica Showalter

    To hear the press and its narrative allies tell it, the Honduras migrant caravan is little more than thousands of mothers and toddlers spontaneously fleeing violence in their home countries. The flight is little different from that seen in previous caravans. Any concern about crime or violence is a "scare tactic," or "lying," or "racism," and there's no evidence any of the migrants are criminals. President Trump's warnings about the matter are simply "factually wrong."

    Actually, a different picture is emerging.

    Specifically, signs are mounting that far from the exodus being a Madonna-and-child in flip flops narrative, the military-aged unemployed males dominating this wave of caravans are far more violent than reported. That's not a scare story from some rightwing militia group, but the actual view of the U.S. military, whose 5,000-plus troops have been dispatched to meet the caravans and keep them from storming the U.S. border and entering the U.S. illegally as they already did in Mexico. Asked if the dispatch was all a border stunt by a reporter, Secretary of Defense Gen. Jim Mattis icily replied: "We don't do stunts in this department. Thank you."

    According to the Military Times:
    Publicly, the top commander in charge of homeland defense will only say the military does not yet have a full understanding of what threats will surface from the caravan. However, some violent acts that have taken place within the caravan and the way it has forced its way through the border between Guatemala and Mexico has raised concerns that the makeup of the population traveling differs from the past.
    “We are working closely with [Customs and Border Patrol] to understand the makeup and the nature of this caravan,” said U.S. Northern Command chief Air Force Gen. Terrence O’Shaughnessy. “This caravan is different than what we’ve seen in the past.”
    That would certainly go for the not just the first caravan headed our way, but the chain reaction of the second, third and more groups following. According to the Daily Mail:
    The second migrant caravan, believed to be armed with bombs and guns, crossed into Mexico on Monday despite a huge police presence.
    Hundreds of migrants following in the footsteps of the first caravan heading to the U.S. border crossed a river from Guatemala.
    ...and...
    The second group back at the Guatemalan frontier has been more unruly than the first that crossed. Guatemala's Interior Ministry said Guatemalan police officers were injured when the migrant group broke through border barriers on Guatemala's side of the bridge.
    Mexico authorities said migrants attacked its agents with rocks, glass bottles and fireworks when they broke through a gate on the Mexican end but were pushed back, and some allegedly carried guns and firebombs.
    There was also this:
    The standoff at the riverbank followed a more violent confrontation that occurred on the bridge over the river Sunday night, when migrants threw rocks and used sticks against Mexico police. One migrant died from a head wound during the clash, but the cause was unclear.
    The first migrant caravan isn't without reports of violence, either. According to Breitbart Texas, they've already begun using their guns:
    Mexican authorities arrested two Hondurans who allegedly shot at federal police officers escorting the migrant caravan across the southern state of Chiapas. The attack follows shortly after government warnings about Molotov cocktail attacks around a second caravan near the border with Guatemala.

    The attack took place near Ignacio Zaragoza, Chiapas, when members of Mexico’s Federal Police were escorting the migrant caravan as part of “Operativo Caminante” or “Operation Walker” across the southern border state. According to Mexico’s Interior Secretariat, two men identified only as 22-year-old “Jerson” and 17-year-old “Carlos” spotted the group of police officers guarding the caravan and began firing at them.
    The attackers’ pistol jammed, allowing police officers to arrest them without any injuries. Federal authorities seized a .380 caliber Glock with nine rounds still in the magazine.
    Meanwhile, back in the U.S., the Border Patrol has warned Texas landowners at the international line to prepare for armed conflict from the caravan:
    The U.S. Border Patrol this week reportedly told Texas landowners along the U.S.-Mexico border to prepare for a possible influx of "armed civilians" on their property as the migrant caravan moves closer to the U.S., a report said.
    The Associated Press reported that these civilians say they intend to support the National Guard and Border Patrol to prevent the illegal migrants from crossing into the U.S.
    It's an astonishing departure from the picture the mainstream press has been painting for us about the supposedly harmlessness of the migrant caravans, and it's completely in line with the warnings President Trump has made about the possibility of criminals within the caravan ranks. If that's not reason to distrust the mainstream press's "narrative" reporting, what is?
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    "Peaceful" migrants seeking asylum... SMH..

    Border of Guatemala and Mexico

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    There have never been peaceful migrants invading a nation. Peaceful people don't invade in bands, gangs or caravans, they might "sneak" in, but they do not boldly march, tear down barriers and fencing, and attack police or military. They just don't. What these people are doing is the complete opposite of a "peaceful" migrant.
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    ORDER A "PAUSE" ON ALL IMMIGRATION FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS!

    ALL OF IT!!!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    CBS Evening News with Jeff Glor

    WATCH: Violence erupts at the Mexico-Guatemala border, as thousands of migrants attempt to tear down the gates; Guatemalan police retaliated by throwing tear gas bombs at the group.

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    Why would ANYBODY in this country want this on our soil.

    We have our own crime, gangs, drugs, ghettos, poverty and homeless.

    We do not want any more of it!

    KEEP THEM ALL OUT AND SEND THEM BACK!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    Bunch of spoiled crybabies these so called refugees are! They said we demand jobs! No you will not get anything from us at all! !

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    CBS Evening News with Jeff Glor

    29 October at 12:33 ·

    WATCH: Violence erupts at the Mexico-Guatemala border, as thousands of migrants attempt to tear down the gates; Guatemalan police retaliated by throwing tear gas bombs at the group.

    Video https://www.facebook.com/CBSEveningN...3663981963291/
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    We can't let these people in. We don't want them separated, we don't want them detained, we don't want them prosecuted, WE WANT THEM KEPT OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND OFF OUR SOIL

    DON'T LET THEM IN! DON'T LET THEM IN!!
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