Massive Voter Fraud In California?

According to an AP article currently posted on Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_ ... g_problems

Quote from above article: "More than 5 million people have requested mail-in ballots in California, where there are 15.7 million registered voters. Election officials in the most populated and delegate-rich state in the country have said results may not be available until Wednesday or later."

First, I ask, how many elections or primaries draw a total of 33 percent of the voters?

In the 2004 primary, less than 31 percent turned out in CA. In 2000, the number was approximately 40 percent. These are TOTAL counts, not mail-in or absentee ballots.

http://elections.gmu.edu/Voter_Turnout_ ... maries.htm

Now, though, we are to believe that 33 percent of the voters went to the trouble TO REQUEST MAIL-IN BALLOTS?

This in itself, I believe, is pretty strong evidence of a rigged election.

The poll I went to in CA was packed, lots of people voting. Don't know if they were all legitimate tho!

Remember, this is the state where Frankensteins DC staffer Ben openly told us that "you don't have to be a citizen to vote, only registered"

Well if Ben doesn't know the law he shouldn't be working for a Senator. I got my papers to re-register today after I voted. Right on there you have to sign that you are US Citizen and 18 or over to vote. It states it is a FELONY to even sign it if it is untrue. You don't even have to vote for it to be a felony. If you make the false statement and sign it, it is a Felony.

And who, exactly, in California is going to verify legality?
If Spanish television stations are telling them to vote...

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Originally Posted by Gogo

Well if Ben doesn't know the law he shouldn't be working for a Senator. I got my papers to re-register today after I voted. Right on there you have to sign that you are US Citizen and 18 or over to vote. It states it is a FELONY to even sign it if it is untrue. You don't even have to vote for it to be a felony. If you make the false statement and sign it, it is a Felony.

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I know it says that, but, it is only a felony if that law is enforced. It is also against the law to come here illegally. If an illegal is caught, they will deport them, nothing else. If they are caught for other reasons, they might deport them. I don't feel secure because we were warned that you have to be 18 and citizen if they are not verifying the facts.

HERE IN CALI THEY MAIL A REQUEST FOR ABSENTEE BALLOT WITH THE ELECTION INFO BOOKLET. I AM AN ABSENTEE VOTER. I HAVE BEEN MAILING IN MY BALLOT FOR YEARS. I AM NOT SAYING THAT ALL OF THOSE ABSENTEE BALLOTS ARE LEGIT. BUT THEY MAKE IT EASY TO DO. ALSO I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING MY BALLOT IS ON PAPER INSTEAD OF ENTERING IT INTO A COMPUTER. BUT I AM NOT IN SOUTHERN CALI....I AM IN NORTHERN CALI.

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And who, exactly, in California is going to verify legality?

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Our Attorney General "Moonbeam" Jerry Brown! Ya right :roll: :roll: :roll:

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And who, exactly, in California is going to verify legality?

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Our Attorney General "Moonbeam" Jerry Brown! Ya right :roll: :roll: :roll:

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He has to if there is a lawsuit like Dorgan against Sanchez. They found half of the questioned voters were illegal and cast out but there was still enough to the hair on her chiny chin chin to win.

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And who, exactly, in California is going to verify legality?

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Our Attorney General "Moonbeam" Jerry Brown! Ya right :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Yup, that is a secure feeling all right. I just dropped to my knees and thanked the dear Lord one more time for getting me out of Cali.

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And who, exactly, in California is going to verify legality?

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Our Attorney General "Moonbeam" Jerry Brown! Ya right :roll: :roll: :roll:

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He has to if there is a lawsuit like Dorgan against Sanchez. They found half of the questioned voters were illegal and cast out but there was still enough to the hair on her chiny chin chin to win.

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And that just might be necessary to pursue.

What makes you believe that an illegal would have any reservations about casting a ballot even though doing so is supposed to be a felony. Crossing our borders is illegal and they don't seem to mind. Using fradulent documentation to secure employment is also a felony, but does not seem to prevent the illegals from doing so.

When's the last time you have ever heard of someone being prosecuted for voter fraud? We won't even deport these people when they have committed serious felonies in this country. Why would you ever believe these people would be prosecuted for voter fraud.

They certainly are not affraid of prosecution. They have come to believe the rule of law does not pertain to them. Thanks to our corrupt politicians that refuse to hold these people accountable for anything.

There were rumors that Karl Rove was working the McCain election. Bush won via voter fraud, so no doubt they will repeat the process with McCain.

I hope I am allowed to post this link! Watch the poll deputy ! This is tragic! This is in calif. yesterday. Voter Fraud is rampant!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWKxwVZmomc

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I hope I am allowed to post this link! Watch the poll deputy ! This is tragic! This is in calif. yesterday. Voter Fraud is rampant!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWKxwVZmomc

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Thanks for posting that video. It sure is pathetic. Million of Americans are being bilked of their right to vote. :(

NO law is EFFECTIVE UNLESS and UNTIL it is PROPERLY ENFORCED!

CA, in particular Los Angeles, is the most corrupt city in the country. When you have the dirty tricks machine of the Mechistas, Villaraigosa, Nunez, and the Mexican mafia, it's a cesspool of fraud and corruption. Add to the mix the corrupt Clinton machine...and you have a receipe for disaster! I'm surprised Obama did as well as he did...considering!

Heard on the radio tonight they've found thousands of ballots never counted in LA. This gets crazier all the time. :roll:

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Heard on the radio tonight they've found thousands of ballots never counted in LA. This gets crazier all the time. :roll:

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That's par for the course! They were probably all Romney or Obama ballots!

I heard a wild story on one of the radio talk shows from a caller who lived in Mexico...he said that he accidentally discovered 'thousands' of blank ballots from the US primary election...sitting in boxes in a warehouse!

I personally know 13 people who were disenfrancised yesterday because they were registered NP (non partisan). They were only allowed to vote DEM. I heard that 20% of the registered voters in CA were either NP, Decline to State, or Independent...they were disenfranchised! I hope they do an investigation and throw the criminals in jail!

AmericanMe,
If you know of people who weren't allowed to vote as they were registered please tell them to file a report to the Sec of State's office at 1-800-345-VOTE (8683). The office has to investigate the matter, they can't just blow them off.

Jean...Schwarzenegger was the one who decided to make the Republicans an 'exclusive club' by stating that you had to be registered Republican in order to vote Republican. That meant that if you were registered Ind., Non Partisan, or Decline to State..you couldn't vote R...you could only vote Dem.

Is there still a cause for action? Should they still report it? It was so confusing! I don't know why Schwarzenegger would disenfranchise potential R voters! My daughter, who was registered NP, wanted to vote for Romney and she couldn't!

Oh, well, since that's the case nothing can be done.

Many NP's changed to the Republican party weeks ago due to this stupid rule just to vote Rep. Obviously many people didn't realize it which is very unfortunate.

Yep...they were all out of luck! Too bad.

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Is there still a cause for action? Should they still report it? It was so confusing! I don't know why Schwarzenegger would disenfranchise potential R voters! My daughter, who was registered NP, wanted to vote for Romney and she couldn't!

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Only Republicans should choose the Republican candidate!!! What is so hard to understand about that????? If your daughter could not commit to an affilation, i.e. ideology, why should she be allowed to vote in a primary???

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AmericanMe wrote:

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Is there still a cause for action? Should they still report it? It was so confusing! I don't know why Schwarzenegger would disenfranchise potential R voters! My daughter, who was registered NP, wanted to vote for Romney and she couldn't!

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Only Republicans should choose the Republican candidate!!! What is so hard to understand about that????? If your daughter could not commit to an affilation, i.e. ideology, why should she be allowed to vote in a primary???

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What is odd is the Democrats would allow them to vote. They'll take all the votes they can get. It's up to the parties to decide. It's just unfortunate many people didn't realize the situation.

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Is there still a cause for action? Should they still report it? It was so confusing! I don't know why Schwarzenegger would disenfranchise potential R voters! My daughter, who was registered NP, wanted to vote for Romney and she couldn't!

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Only Republicans should choose the Republican candidate!!! What is so hard to understand about that????? If your daughter could not commit to an affilation, i.e. ideology, why should she be allowed to vote in a primary???

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I'm going to ignore the rudeness of your comment. FYI, my daughter is only 21 years old, and this is her first time voting. She registered NP because she dislikes Bush, and she was misinformed. She was under the impression that she could vote any party. It was a simple mistake due to her youthful inexperience. And believe me, she is not the only one who made the same unfortunately mistake!

Lou Dobbs has been pushing for people to switch to Independent and I was worried this was going to be the result.

I have not noticed him letting the viewers know they may not have a choice in the primaries depending on the rules in each State.

This has been a problem for me with the motives of Lou Dobbs.

I applaud him on his outspoken criticism of the problems we are facing, but I have had to wonder about pushing the switch to Independent, knowing people would lose their vote in the primaries, when everyone knows without a doubt the Democrat choices are for open borders, and they were the only choice for Independents in the largest delegate State.

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