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    It is a widely known truth that majority of the illegals do the jobs and sometimes in less humane conditions than is written down in state laws, that the Americans will not do
    ! Hardly. This is just an "old wives tale" of the invaders and their mouthpieces! In fact, studyies and data produced disprove this fallacy. The OBL's think if they say this enough, that someone (other than themselves) will buy it. WRONG.
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    there could be n number of ways to legalize them which I do not want to discuss right now
    Please do, I could use a good fight.
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    has much of America thought / know how the legal immigration system works in this country ?
    What kind of idiotic stagtement is this. What's the translation here, (il)legal alien?
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    Re: And what is his claim to fame....

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    Anchorman of a TV show who can only talk about legal and illegal immigrants in the same breath ? Is that all the "quality" required for the chair of the US President ?
    FYI: Lou Dobbs:

    He earned a degree in economics from Harvard University, graduating in 1967.[2]

    After graduating, Dobbs worked for federal anti-poverty programs in Boston and Washington, D.C. and as a cash-management specialist for Union Bank in Los Angeles. He married his high school sweetheart in 1969 and in 1970 his first son was born. Dobbs moved to Yuma, Arizona and got a job as a police and fire reporter for KBLU-AM. By the mid-1970s he was a television anchor and reporter in Phoenix, and he later joined Seattle's KING-TV. In 1979, he was contacted by a recruiter for Ted Turner, who was in the process of forming CNN.[
    Lou grew up in a hard working middle class family, has not forgotten his roots and knows what its like to EARN a living.

    Add this to the fact that despite not growing up with a silver spoon in his mouth he has accomplished all that he has through sweat equity. I think Lou Dobbs is plenty qualified to turn this country around and return it to the era when lawlessness, illegal alien chaos and corporate greed was not the order of the day in America.
    So, do you say that the Presidents that America has been electing so far did not have the brain or brawn or had silver/golden spoon in their mouths when they were born that they opened the southern gates for the illegals to enter the US and settle down ? The people elected so far to the President's office do not match up to the skills and background that this gentleman posseses ?

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    USCIS under Homeland Security to run its day to day affairs!!! They are supposed to run the organization solely from the money that they receive via the various applications fees collected by from the applicants!!
    I doubt the truth of this conjecture. But, so what? What's your point, (il)legal alien?
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    So, do you say that the Presidents that America has been electing so far did not have the brain or brawn or had silver/golden spoon in their mouths when they were born that they opened the southern gates for the illegals to enter the US and settle down ? The people elected so far to the President's office do not match up to the skills and background that this gentleman posseses ?
    What are you trying to say in this rambling, babbling statement, (il)legal alien?
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    Yes, Legal, booting them out is the answer. We have a very generous immigration system in this country and if they can't apply the legal way, them yes, we need to boot them out. They are not "special". They do not deserve "special" treatment. They are criminals for breaking into our country and stealing from the Americans. They not only should be booted, they should be prosecuted for breaking into a country that doesn't belong to them. Does that answer your question?
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    Got the answer...

    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    has much of America thought / know how the legal immigration system works in this country ?
    What kind of idiotic stagtement is this. What's the translation here, (il)legal alien?
    If you could not comprehend that sentence probably the US legal immigration process is "alien" to you.....brush up on immigration laws/reality I would advice rather than blaming someone or the other for your problems...

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    Just for you, (il)legal alien:

    1) Violating the immigration law is a CRIME
    (2) Forging documents is a FELONY CRIME
    (3) Passing forged documents is a FELONY CRIME
    (4) Stealing ID is a FELONY CRIME
    (5) Using stolen ID is a FELONY CRIME
    (6) Re-entering the country after being deported is a FELONY CRIME

    Federal law states that it is a FELONY CRIME for any person or corporation to willingly aid and abet illegal aliens that either enter the US or remain here unlawfully.
    Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

    INVADE:
    1. to enter like an enemy: Locusts invaded the fields
    2. to enter as if to take possession: To invade a neighbor's home
    3. to enter and affect injuriously or destructively, as disease: Viruses that invade the bloodstream.
    4. to intrude upon: To invade the privacy of a family.
    5. to encroach or infringe upon: to invade the rights of citizens.
    6. to permeate: The smell of baking invades the house.
    7. to penetrate; spread into or over: The population boom has caused city dwellers to invade the suburbs

    ALIEN:
    1) a person who is not a citizen of the country.
    2) in the United States any person born in another country to parents who are not American and who has not become a naturalized citizen. There are resident aliens officially permitted to live in the country and illegal aliens who have sneaked into the country or stayed beyond the time allowed on a visa.

    ILLEGAL:
    Unlawful; illegitimate; illicit; unlicensed.
    Illegal, unlawful, illegitimate, illicit, criminal can all describe actions not in accord with law.
    Illegal" refers most specifically to violations of statutes.
    Illegal is "prohibited by law."

    Illegal Immigration is a Crime:

    Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
    -Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
    -Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
    -Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
    has committed a federal crime.

    Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.
    See: Unlawful entry a crime since '29 - Rocky Mountain News -- June 11, 2006

    In addition to sneaking into the country in violation of the immigration law that requires that aliens be documented for legal entry (referred to as "entry without inspection -- EWI"), others enter with legal documentation and then violate the terms on which they have been admitted by taking jobs that are not authorized or overstaying the authorized period of stay in the country.

    "Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this Act or any other law of the United States is deportable."
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    And yes, Legal, the ones elected to our Presidental office do not have the brains to straighten this mess out and most of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. That's what's wrong with our country. That, and people who think we should reward criminals.
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