Thread: How can AMNESTY stop illegal immigration?

I was thinking that if you give amnesty to the 20million illegals, riight. What happens to all those jobs "americans wouldn't do?" -- what happens to those businessess that don't give health insurance or 'high wages' - will the "new citizens" have new rights which they then could bring lawsuits against the companies etc.. or perhaps they just leave the jobs, then these same businessess will need illegals to do the work? You understand what I am getting at.

I just see endless mexicans crossing the border. Once you legalize the ones here, others will most assuredly come to fill THE OLD ILLEGAL OCCUPIED POSITIIONS as the companies WANT illegals to circumvent pay laws and other such considerations.

Honestly, I think once we do stop illegal immigration it will still be a battle to keep companies from relocating overseas or outsourcing, or doing whatever they can to legally reduce costs. Anyone else have an opinion on this? I never heard McCain address this, other than to say that he doesn't want to raise taxes on businesses. Obama says he will have legislation to prevent this flight of jobs---But how will he be able to do it?

I don't envy our leaders' position, no matter what Party they are in, they are really in a squeeze, it seems.

Amnesty would only increase illegal immigration,once you make an illegal legal he will then expect and demand higher wages employers then will find ways to transport or encourage more illegal immigration.

Truth is if we don't control all immigration, outsourcing, loss of manufacturing our middle class will cease to exist in time simply there is no other answer unless corporations suddenly become patriotic and put America first but I won't hold my breath.

Obama can't stop job flights unless the govt. decides to reduce corporate taxes, which is the 2nd highest in the world. Ireland dropped it's rate to 11% and the economy took off. Business leaves because of high taxes, high labor and burdensome and costly regulations. The govt. is like a giant ball and chain on many businesses so they go to other countries. Want to see a real flight...watch what happens when a "cap and trade" scheme is enacted. That will be the final straw for a lot of people.

I understand GM has a diesel car that gets around 65mpg but they can't sell it here because of enviromental restrictions.

Illegal aliens lose their attractiveness when they become legal. Now they will demand higher wages, overtime, etc. SO, the answer...you need MORE illegal aliens. 20 years or less, there will be ANOTHER amnesty push.

I don't envy our leaders' position, no matter what Party they are in, they are really in a squeeze, it seems.

They got themselves...and us... there on thier own. Bunch of crooks.

Amnesty and IA's are a lose/lose situation. They know it and so do we.

Agreed, but how can we prevent companies from going overseas or outsourcing? And I agree that one Amnesty will only lead to another. I know that so many things---including high preiced labor-- are a drain on compnay profits. It is impossible to logically think that a twenty five dollar an hour American worker will provide more value than a two dollar an hour Chinese one. They are not on a par with us yet---but the fuse on this bomb is getting awfully short.

It doesn't stop it.....we've tried it and other countries have, and it just continues. It diminishes what it means to be a citizen and destroys any rules and regulations for legal immigration.

You don't have uncontrolled immigration to the 3rd world nations, so the people facing the biggest burdens are any nations that have made things work.

I've been saying this for years. Once those illegally here get legal they won't put up with low wages and poor working conditions so you have to have more come here illegally to fill their jobs. But I'd like to add one thing that companies like about illegal immigrants, besides the low wages is that they come here with next to nothing so they have to buy whatever they need. The problem is after a while they have everything they need so you need a new crop come in. That's one of the problems with the addiction out country has with illegal immigrants. You need more and more but at some point you have to say NO MORE!!! and that point was years ago.

I don't believe that any government should tell a business that they can't relocate to another country. That's what freedom and capitalism is all about. What the government CAN do is impose tariffs that would make it less lucrative to relocate. That's where our government went wrong. They lifted those tariffs. Free trade was their mantra. I even heard a few say that out sourcing jobs was good for America because it would give people in other countries money to buy American goods. What they left out is that if we aren't making anything what are they going to buy. What I'm not so sure about is if our gov. could reimpose those tariffs. I know China wouldn't put up with it and we're so deep in debt with them I can't see how we could piss them off right now.

Originally Posted by Captainron

Agreed, but how can we prevent companies from going overseas or outsourcing? And I agree that one Amnesty will only lead to another. I know that so many things---including high preiced labor-- are a drain on compnay profits. It is impossible to logically think that a twenty five dollar an hour American worker will provide more value than a two dollar an hour Chinese one. They are not on a par with us yet---but the fuse on this bomb is getting awfully short.

Put heavy tariffs on imports from these companies and don't allow them to operate outside the borders and within them. New companies will take their places. We also need to repeal the Federal Reserve Act and replace fiat money with something of real value...gold, silver, etc.

Greed, corruption lack of patriotism is our problem within corporate
America, capitalism is a great system however without controls,morals
and standards even it can fail, we've had unchecked greed past 25 years
and now we pay the price. If a company wishes to go elsewhere fine
but understand there will be a price to be paid.

Personally I would love to purchase a USA made electric can opener,
coffee pot and yes I'm will to pay extra for the USA label.