Minuteman project..... heavy questions
I live in Arizona and have a bunch of interesting questions about the Minuteman project and the parties involved. Some regarding stories I've read and others I conjured up thinking about worst case-scenarios for the project.
Although the Project's goal may be to document, and assist the BP, there exists the possibility of an international incident.
Of course, a big incident could be swept under the rug by the Administration
The "Project" themselves appear to be walking a tightrope of public opinion and wisely may measure every word of public statements. So I wont ask them directly.
I'll throw them out here, if anybody wants to comment.
Question #1
Rumor I read: Some or most Minutemen will be limited to only carrying handguns, perhaps concealed.
What I think: Common sense, as I see it, would be to arm as heavily as possible(without being reckless).
Possible encounters include heavily armed coyotes/drug smugglers, and/or full squads of Mexican Army soldiers(official or not).
Better have several concealed shooters protecting your fellow minutemen, in case of danger.
Question #2
Could Minutemen volunteers be charged under the Patriot Act using a "liberal" interpretation of its powers?
I ask this because it would be easier for the government to just arrest all the minuteman participants(and charge them as terrorists), then to actually fix the border.
-n
Re: Minuteman project..... heavy questions
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Originally Posted by AZJouster
Of course, a big incident could be swept under the rug by the Administration
The "Project" themselves appear to be walking a tightrope of public opinion and wisely may measure every word of public statements. So I wont ask them directly.
I'll throw them out here, if anybody wants to comment.
Question #1
Rumor I read: Some or most Minutemen will be limited to only carrying handguns, perhaps concealed.
Welcome AZJouster:
I think the limitation to hand guns is a good idea. In fact, I'd like to see guns limited even more.
I doubt very seriously the administration would 'sweep an incident under the rug' The worst case scenario for Americans and Immigration Reform movement would be for a violent incident to occur and the next day the President calls a press conference and says.
"This terrible incident has illustrated the need for an improved immigration policy where those coming to work can travel to the US without fear. Therefore I'm calling on the Congress to immediately pass my Guest Worker plan and the Senate to Pass the FTAA so we can avoid any such unfortunate incidents in the future."
The MSM will spin the story as "Vigilante racists kill/injure harmless immigrants" and the wind will be stripped from the sails of the entire IR movement.
W
Re: Minuteman project..... heavy questions
Prelim, I am a MinuteMan HAM op, and video documentarian, and will be there from March 31 (will not be at the border, I just fly into Pheonix), until the 11th, unless the videos really take off, and there is enough call monitarily to keep me there. I am doing this 100% volunteer, no one but myself is outlaying anything for my time. I have spent over 3500 so far (but I spent 2k+ today on video equipment). I will be camping, totally, to keep the costs down.
Sorry for that plug, but I wanted to get a few things straight before answering. NOTE the answers here are MINE. They are NOT MMP answers. However, when questions are asked with are true SOP questions of MMP, then I will answer them as such.
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Originally Posted by AZJouster
I live in Arizona and have a bunch of interesting questions about the Minuteman project and the parties involved. Some regarding stories I've read and others I conjured up thinking about worst case-scenarios for the project.
Although the Project's goal may be to document, and assist the BP, there exists the possibility of an international incident.
Of course, a big incident could be swept under the rug by the Administration
The "Project" themselves appear to be walking a tightrope of public opinion and wisely may measure every word of public statements. So I wont ask them directly.
I'll throw them out here, if anybody wants to comment.
Question #1
Rumor I read: Some or most Minutemen will be limited to only carrying handguns, perhaps concealed.
What I think: Common sense, as I see it, would be to arm as heavily as possible(without being reckless).
We have been told (STRONGLY) that handguns are fully acceptable. It is 100% legal in AZ to have "open carry". What that means is sidearms are fully legal. If you have a visible sidearm, and walk into most stores, I believe that is a fully permissible, and legal thing to do. Thus, anyone able to legally carry (ex felons CAN NOT), then they are able to carry. For members who DO have a CCW permit (concealed), they are fully allowed to carry concealed.
There have been strict orders to have NO long guns (rifles, shotguns). This is to keep us from "appearing" to be nothing more than a band a vigilantees. I think it is VERY wise advise.
All MMP members must abide by the rules. If long guns are brought out, the person will be banned from MMP. If a hand gun is taken out of a holster for ANY reason, short of saving your own life, then you will be BANNED from MMP. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Note, I will be carrying my 9 (or possibly both), along with 4 extra clips. With the threats that have been made, I do not want to leave my kids fatherless. NOTE there is a 99.5% chance that my firearms will NOT be removed from the holsters ever, but they will certainly be with me 24/7.
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Originally Posted by AZJouster
Possible encounters include heavily armed coyotes/drug smugglers, and/or full squads of Mexican Army soldiers(official or not).
Better have several concealed shooters protecting your fellow minutemen, in case of danger.
Question #2
Could Minutemen volunteers be charged under the Patriot Act using a "liberal" interpretation of its powers?
I ask this because it would be easier for the government to just arrest all the minuteman participants(and charge them as terrorists), then to actually fix the border.
-n
I seriously doubt it. If they did arrest 1000 of us, I think they fear (for VERY good reason), that 100000 would rise up. When there are free people, tyrants have a VERY hard time existing (even though they are active here in this country now).