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    William: Penny for your thoughts. A wild turn of events!

    Friends of ALIPAC:

    I am truly in awe by what we see before us. They are sending forth their political pundits to assure all members of the Senate they will not lose their seats over this bill. The print media, which has a blackout in place on most of our movement's leaders that represent your positions, is playing this assurance game as well.

    This is a great victory for our side, because it tells us what is going on behind the closed doors. The lawmakers are both shocked and fearful of the massive public backlash on this bill.

    I'm reading where Trent Lott believes that the high volume of negative calls is the result of a misinformation campaign from Bloggers and Talk radio. What a joke. The truth is that people are getting the truth from the Internet and talk radio and the powerful Senators did not count on that happening. Now they are trying to say that our side is not more numerous, just more of us feel passionately in our opposition to the measure than those that support the bill.

    They just do not want to accept the fact that this bill sucks and that the vast majority of Americans are against what they are trying to do!

    Now they have sent Bush and Chertoff out to defend the plan. We have a President with less than 28% approval trying to defend a bill that has less than 26% support. Their miscalculations never end!

    For Bush to try and say those opposed to this bill do not have America's best interest in mind is a new low, but then again we are used to New LOW Bush.

    The question on my mind is exactly how low will he and his co-conspirators go to get what they want?

    The kind mention today on the Limbaugh show was a big boost and tomorrow we are sending out the press release housed in the Announcements section to thumb our nose at the old media and invigorate our allies on the Net and the Talk Shows.

    In the end analysis, it is not the strength of ALIPAC, NumbersUSA, MCDC, etc... What is happening today is a true awakening and the strength of those Americans that can still think straight in this nation and take action.

    They rolled their plan out, we hit them super hard! Now they are trying to take the offense with that liar Kyle claiming most calls are now in support of the bill. lol

    No doubt, the globalists and their supporters probably have some real machinery in the works trying to counter our efforts now.

    Miss America getting booed by the Mexicans and a bird taking a crap on Bush did not help the pro amnesty forces very much.

    I'm just amazed by what is going on now and how out of touch with reality these Globalists and their pet Senators are. They think that just because they say something that it will become reality.

    Tonight, while doing a talk show, it dawned on me that these Senators and their Globalist masters are not just counting on Americans to forget about this before the next election.

    They are counting on their ability to keep Americans in the dark and control minds with the propaganda we are seeing left and right in the Old Guard media!

    We are standing in their way and doing a damn fine job of it.

    That is why Bush was in GA today on DA King's turf and why Chertoff was on the air here in NC today where I have been very active as part of their first offensive play.

    We must be agile and energized to fight back this offense.

    The thing is, from what I have learned and experienced in life, that if we beat them back on this they are going to crack up and get even stranger than they are acting now.

    We stand in the way of the political machine that has reduced most of Iraq to rubble now.

    Who knows what they might do before this is all over if we continue to confound their plans.

    How is everyone feeling? What do you know? What do you see? Where do you feel the fight is going next? What do you think we should do next? What are you seeing and hearing around you?

    Penny for your thoughts....

    William
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    Encouraging words Williams!

    Now, on to your question:

    How is everyone feeling? What do you know? What do you see? Where do you feel the fight is going next? What do you think we should do next? What are you seeing and hearing around you?
    First of all, this frustrated patriot is still ready and willing to keep on calling, faxing, and fighting (and waking up more people).

    From my amateur perspective some key objectives might be the following (assuming we win this latest battle against amnesty):

    1. Work to elect no-amnesty enforcement first politicians.

    2. Help encourage and support other states which try to enact state level immigration control laws.

    3. Educate ordinary Americans about the damage that has already been done to formerly idyllic parts of this country (i.e. "Remember the Alamo!" becomes "Remember California!"). Perhaps one way of doing this would be to fund billboards on a national scale that would educate Americans driving to work (like the one displayed by outragedpatriots.com).

    It is important to remember that the balkanization of this country is well underway in certain parts and that some cities are downright occupied (Los Angeles, Maywood, etc.). In fact, I was reading an article on this site (earlier in the day) about how California is having a hard time keeping its college graduates. At any rate, illegal immigration is continuing into California while its tax base leaves en masse. What a nightmare!

    To be frank, organizations like ALIPAC need to work to confine the cancer of illegal immigration to the American Southwest as much as possible while the rest of the country wakes up.

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    We need force multipliers. I contacted the AARP. This is what I got:

    Thank you for contacting AARP. We appreciate hearing from you
    regarding Comprehensive Immigration Bill.

    We encourage all of our members to keep us informed of their
    interests and concerns. Feedback like yours help us stay aware of
    the issues that face AARP members and, in turn, allow us to provide
    information and services to meet the changing needs of older adults.
    We have shared your input with the Executive Office. They are always
    interested in our members have to say.

    We appreciate the time you have taken to write and hope that you will
    continue to keep AARP informed of your views and concerns.

    We sincerely thank you again for getting in touch with us.

    Edwin
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    My question was outlining how this was going to destroy Social Security. I don't see how they can sit on the sidelines on this issue.

    Environmental groups - illegal immigration is causing urban sprawl

    NRA? I wonder what a bunch of lawless illegals using firearms will do to the defense of personal gun ownership?

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    I keep going with the emails, the calls, and the faxes but sometimes its easy to see that Congress and our President know too well its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. Its even easier to just act and not even try for forgiveness.

    As much as I hate having Dems in office I like that a statement was made by the American voter, "We will end your political career if you continue to ignore the will of the American people."

    I think we are currently taking the correct approach. Congress has had free reign to act upon THEIR wishes not OURS for decades with no consequences. We need to continue to not only hold their feet to the fire but their paychecks to the fire. We have to continue to force the message upon our elected officials that if they ignore us on this issue they will not serve another term, they will be voted out of office and they can find a new career.

    I love that people are threatening to support opposition to amnesty lovin Senators in future elections. I love that Alipac is gathering lists of candidates to run against amnesty lovers in 08 and beyond. I will support those candidates with everything I have. money, time, whatever it takes.

    I truly believe we will not win this battle until we hold our elected officials accountable. I hope to God that the House pulls the plug on this "compromise" and we the people get time to vote out the amnesty lovers in the Senate. If we hold our elected officials accountable and fire many of them in the next election maybe the remaining will begin to listen to us and once again represent the people. We are their employer, if we can't trust them to do their job then we must instill fear in them that there are indeed consequences, a lifetime in the Senate no longer comes free!

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    W wrote:
    Who knows what they might do before this is all over if we continue to confound their plans.
    I'm not in the least concerned! We are way too numerous and they never expected it. They picked the wrong generation to try this on, should have waited. We have too much love and respect for this great nation still in our blood.

    Their hysteria and strangeness is a call to increase our phone calls even if it means calling over and over again. There are many sacrificing much more than we are...talk show hosts who are so verbal on the issue, bloggers, you W, etc... I feel the need to step up to the plate for all those who are out there screaming for sanity in the face of this ludicrous legislation. Come on!!! They are on the run and let's keep their lazy, comfortable asses in high gear!

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    Re: William: Penny for your thoughts. A wild turn of events

    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC
    The thing is, from what I have learned and experienced in life, that if we beat them back on this they are going to crack up and get even stranger than they are acting now.
    I have experienced plenty of strange things in my life and am ready for whatever they cook up. Just remember the Boy Scout motto: "Be Prepared".
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    I called Feinsteins office today and spoke to Michael.
    I asked him what the ratio of callers for and against were.
    He told me that he could not give me that information. That it is confidential. Nonesense. They don't want us to know how overwhelming the backlash against this shamnesty really is.

    But I already know!

    Oh, and I am making sure to tell them what I know about this bill.
    I tell them the facts of the bill and I say...

    We know. We know and we are not having it!
    We know what you are trying to pull! We know about the z visas and we know about the 2.4 trillion and we know about the gang bangers. We are informed and we are not going to put anyone back in office that votes for this amnesty and you better know that! If you vote for this bill, you better know you will be out of a job!

    WE KNOW and we are NOT having it!

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    They are scared, and with good reason. My life experience has taught me that you can get what you want if you dont quit. If there are obstacles you walk around them if you can and over them if you have to. But you keep your focus firmly on your goal.

    Wonderful thing the internet. It allows us to have many sources of information at our finger tips. I think having access to a variety of sources and perspectives gives us greater clarity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProudAmericanFamily
    We are informed and we are not going to put anyone back in office that votes for this amnesty and you better know that! If you vote for this bill, you better know you will be out of a job!
    I called Boxers office and said the same thing. If they pass this bill Americans will not vote for her, and the Latinos who get amnesty will vote for a Latino candidate, not a white Jewish woman! She is up for re-election in 2010, only three years away.
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    The little speech by Bush today told me he is running scared because he is not going to be able to deliver on his promises to Mexico, not only with immigration reform but the NAFTA agreement is in trouble also, Hence the trucks, that was a blow to his pride, his Trans Texas corridor is in trouble, its being stalled and I see none of this happening while he is in office, this all infuriates him.

    I see alot of Senators running scared they are seeing the rath of the citizens and it is growing everyday.

    They may believe we are going to forget this by 2008 but that won't be possible as it is affecting our lives, towns, states everyday of our lives. Something worth bringing to their attention.

    For now as every day goes by people are getting angrier and that makes it worse for them and better for us.

    If nothing is done at all which is what I think will happen, we are going to have to make sure our laws get enforced and the border gets secure, we can not afford to go to sleep again and leave this country to government officals, with out public over site.

    I think we are going to see plenty of causes to fight in the future and on many different levels.

    I feel almost overwhelmed, I know we are gaining ground, I see alot of Ameicans waking up but certainly not enough, I see a stalemate until after the 2008 elections. We must make sure our borders and ports get secured and our laws enforced. I know I'm repeating myself but this is imperative, we have to force them to close the So. border.

    Work to get the right people in office in 2008 and make sure one party does not have all the power again (going to be hard to do ).

    And finally what I'm seeing around me is alot of people realizing they almost lost their country.

    When this battle is over I see alot of ignorant blind people saying see I told you our government would never let that happen

    Hopefully this is where it will go,unless by some fat chance we can get a good bill with no amnesty and lots of law enforcement at all levels of government.

    But until then we have to keep the pressure on, keep recruiting and give them not a minutes rest, keep them so they can not think straight.

    And last if this is not the ending senario, will have to come up with another plan
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