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    Illegal Immigrants Returning To Mexico For American Jobs

    Illegal Immigrants Returning To Mexico For American Jobs
    1. May 3, 2006 | Issue 42•18

    MEXICO CITY—As dozens of major American corporations continue to move their manufacturing operations to Mexico, waves of job-seeking Mexican immigrants to the United States have begun making the deadly journey back across the border in search of better-paying Mexican-based American jobs.1. "I came to this country seeking the job I sought when I first left this country," said Anuncio Reyes, 22, an undocumented worker who recrossed the U.S. border into Mexico last month, three years after leaving Mexico for the United States to work as an agricultural day laborer. "I spent everything I had to get back here. Yes, it was dangerous, and I miss my home. But as much as I love America, I have to go where the best American jobs are."
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    If only more would do that it would be a good start.
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    They have auto production now, and dozens of other, once good paying jobs we used to have.

    If they don't like the pay in Mexico, they should fight our business owners, that relocated there, for better pay and benefits.

    Don't come here and take what jobs we have left!

    Can anyone see just how the elitists have screwed up this entire world?
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    I read an article not long ago where they said some of the businesses that went to Mexico for cheaper wages were leaving for China because they still couldn't compete in the "global" market. Until there's a universal minimum wage and a lifestyle that can survive on it, there doesn't seem to be much hope here. I mean I don't ask for alot. But on the wages they pay in Mexico, it wouldn't cover my water bill let alone food or anything else. The middle class in China is growing because I think I heard they are able to put 50% of their earnings in savings and they are able to drive and go to McDonalds etc. so obviously it doesn't cost as much to live there as it does here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazybird
    I read an article not long ago where they said some of the businesses that went to Mexico for cheaper wages were leaving for China because they still couldn't compete in the "global" market. Until there's a universal minimum wage and a lifestyle that can survive on it, there doesn't seem to be much hope here. I mean I don't ask for alot. But on the wages they pay in Mexico, it wouldn't cover my water bill let alone food or anything else. The middle class in China is growing because I think I heard they are able to put 50% of their earnings in savings and they are able to drive and go to McDonalds etc. so obviously it doesn't cost as much to live there as it does here.
    I was in China last year for training on new laser technology. Everything in China is cheap. They have a lot of respect for Americans. They treated us like kings. The companies are growing so fast that it is unbelievable.
    Many people are doing well in China. But you also see an extreme amount of poverty. I would rather have the jobs stay here at home but if I had to choose I would rather deal with the Chienese than the Mexicans any day of the week!

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    I agree about rather dealing with Chinese over Mexicans. When I lived in Canada we had lots of Chinese students at the local university. University of Waterloo has a department of engineering that is equivalent to MIT and a top computer department. The all spoke English and were paying high tuition for the university. Many were married and lived in the reasonably priced married students apartments. These people got no handouts and no government healthcare. I don't say free healthcare because it really isn't if you pay such high taxes. The only thing they could have gotten was scholarships towards school. Most had high grades even though they had part time jobs to help make ends meet. What was interesting was the fact that the university actually had a small Chinese library with mostly newspapers and magazines and novels. Even that wasn't free as they had to pay a yearly fee to use it to offset the cost of it.
    Those people I really respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazybird
    I read an article not long ago where they said some of the businesses that went to Mexico for cheaper wages were leaving for China because they still couldn't compete in the "global" market. Until there's a universal minimum wage and a lifestyle that can survive on it, there doesn't seem to be much hope here. I mean I don't ask for alot. But on the wages they pay in Mexico, it wouldn't cover my water bill let alone food or anything else. The middle class in China is growing because I think I heard they are able to put 50% of their earnings in savings and they are able to drive and go to McDonalds etc. so obviously it doesn't cost as much to live there as it does here.
    That's what it will eventually come to. Everyone, everywhere will make the same amount of money...well, except for the already rich and the CEO's!

    Of course, I don't know how America's could pay a mortgage on whatever the WTO decides on...by that time maybe it will be up to whatever George Soros wants.

    As for Mexico's jobs going to China...yes that happened, but now China is losing some, as some companies are going elsewhere to find even cheaper labor!!!! It's a game they are all playing, at our expense.

    Our governments thinks it is so nice we have electronics so cheap....it's not cheap when you end up buying two, because they are junk.
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    I think this is satire..................LOL

    Illegal Immigrants Returning To Mexico For American Jobs
    May 3, 2006 | Issue 42•18

    MEXICO CITY—As dozens of major American corporations continue to move their manufacturing operations to Mexico, waves of job-seeking Mexican immigrants to the United States have begun making the deadly journey back across the border in search of better-paying Mexican-based American jobs.

    "I came to this country seeking the job I sought when I first left this country," said Anuncio Reyes, 22, an undocumented worker who recrossed the U.S. border into Mexico last month, three years after leaving Mexico for the United States to work as an agricultural day laborer. "I spent everything I had to get back here. Yes, it was dangerous, and I miss my home. But as much as I love America, I have to go where the best American jobs are."

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    A group of Mexican workers make the dangerous trek home across the Rio Grande for their lunch break.

    Reyes now works as a spot-welder on the assembly line of a Maytag large-appliance plant and earns $22 a day, most of which he sends back to his family in the U.S., who in turn send a portion of that back to the original family they left in Mexico. Like many former Mexican-Americans forced by circumstance to become American-Mexicans, Reyes dreams of one day bringing his relatives to Mexico so that they, too, may secure American employment in Mexico.

    Despite the considerable risk illegal immigrants face in returning across the border, many find the lure of large U.S. factory salaries hard to resist—at 15 percent of the pay of corresponding jobs in America, these positions pay three times what Mexican jobs do.

    Still, the danger is very real. When 31-year-old illegal Arizona resident Ignacio Jimenez sought employment at an American plant in Mexico, he was shot at by Mexican border guards as he attempted to illegally enter the country of his citizenship, pursued by U.S. immigration officials who thought he might be entering the country illegally, and fired upon again by a second group of U.S. Border Patrol agents charged with keeping valuable table-busing and food-delivery personnel inside American borders.

    "It was a nightmare," Jimenez said. "Many became disoriented and panicked, and some were mixed in with immigrants going the other way across the Rio Grande and ended up swimming to the wrong country."

    He added: "My cousin almost drowned. They fished him out and sent him back to wash dishes at T.G.I. Friday's."

    Many say the trip across the border as illegal Mexican-American emigrants offers them a chance to land the American jobs in Mexico they never have been able to get as illegal Mexican-American immigrants in the U.S.

    "It has always been my goal to have a good American job," Johnson Controls technician Camilla Torres, 27, said. "Many Mexicans now see Mexico as the land of opportunity. Mexicans will not stop trying to get here, no matter how much the Mexicans wish we would not."Indeed, the trend of illegal re-emigration is causing great resentment among the local Mexican population, and tension between Mexicans and illegally re-entered Mexicans—dubbed repatriados—continues to build.

    "I hate these Mexicans, always coming back here to Mexico from America and taking American jobs from the Mexicans who stayed in Mexico," said 55-year-old former Goodyear factory manager Juan-Miguel Diaz, who lost his job to a better-trained repatriado last March. "Why don't they go back to where they went to?"

    Still, Jimenez, Reyes, and hundreds of others say they have no choice.

    "The American Dream is alive and well in Mexico," Reyes said. "If I work hard, save my money, and plan well, I will be able to send my children to a good school—and who knows? If they study hard, perhaps they will get jobs someday at the new plant General Motors is building in China."

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    China or Mexico - now that's between the devil and the deep blue sea, isn't it?

    Mexico and the illegal situation can destroy America as we know it. It has gone a long way to do that already.

    First China is bankrupting the American worker by taking the jobs, selling us back cheap junk that we must continuously replace. WE are paying far more for almost everything than we were before Chinese junk became our only option. What once would last for years, must be replaced on a regular basis. It is just that Americans are more satisfied with how many baskets they can fill at Wal Mart - not how much quality they can get for their hard earned dollars.

    Then we have the recent announcement that China is beefing up its Navy. Yes, friends, we are financing China's military growth by buying cheap plastic junk.

    So, which is worse -

    Of course, China is treating us well - sort of - why shouldn't they? We always treat our milk cows, even our beef cows quite well.
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