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    Did Romney leave himself room to dangle an immigration amnesty?

    I’ve been predicting that if Mitt Romney secures the nomination he will at some point pivot away from his seemingly tough stance against illegal immigration in order to dangle a possible amnesty in front of Latino voters. But will he have to actually contradict himself to do it?

    Here is Romney’s answer to the immigration question at Monday’s debate [E.A.]:


    ROMNEY: … In my view, as long as we communicate to the people of all backgrounds in this country that it can be better, and that America is a land of opportunity, we will get those votes. Now with regards to immigration policy I absolutely believe that those who come here illegally should not be given favoritism or a special route to becoming permanent residents or citizens that’s not given to those people who have stayed in line legally. I just think we have to follow the law, I think that’s the right course.


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    ROMNEY: And I have indicated I would veto the DREAM Act if provisions included in that act to say that people who are here illegally, if they go to school here long enough, get a degree here that they can become permanent residents. I think that’s a mistake. I think we have to follow the law and insist those who come here illegally, ultimately return home, apply, and get in line with everyone else.


    Look, I want people to know I love legal immigration. Almost all of us in this room are descendants of immigrants or are immigrants ourselves. Our nation is stronger and more vibrant by virtue of a strong legal immigration system. But to protect our legal immigration system we have got to protect our borders and stop the flood of illegal immigration and I will not do anything that opens up another wave of illegal immigration.

    Hmm. Not a lot of obvious dangle room there, I admit. Romney may have been spending more time with Kris Kobach than we thought. But … there’s always a loophole. Or two. Here are three: 1) Romney seems to be talking prospectively. “[T]hose who come here illegally.” What about those who already came here illegally? ‘That’s different,” a future Romney might say. “Those people are already here. We can’t deport them all …” etc. 2) Note that Romney didn’t rule out amnesty in so many words. He ruled out “favoritism,” which would seem to cover amnesty. But there’s always the Pence scam plan, which pretends to avoid “favoritism” by requiring illegals in the country to make a brief symbolic trip across the border. There’s also the “back of the line” scam, which pretends there is only one “line” when there are in fact two–it lets illegals skip the often endless line to get a green card and permits them to go right into the much shorter citizenship line, all while continuing to live here. Romney doesn’t even say they’ll have to go to the back of the line. They’ll just have to get “in line.” No “special route”–but maybe a little shortcut in the normal route!The Rosie Ruiz plan. 3) Romney only forswears such a special route when it leads ”to becoming permanent residents or citizens.” [Italics added.] But there are other forms of legal residence, and other forms of amnesty. For example, Romney could require illegals to “register” and give them allegedly “temporary” guest worker privileges that are, de facto, renewable indefinitely unless the recipient commits a serious crime. Those who’ve already come illegally would still get to stay legally, with their children becoming citizens–which would still be a magnet for more people to come illegally. It would do little to puncture the expectation that there will always be some kind of amnesty down the road, never a legal stopping point in the cycle of illicit migration and legalization. …


    Those are just three loopholes. Maybe there are others. (Feel free to point them out in the comments section.) I’m sticking by my prediction. …
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    I’m sticking by my prediction...
    This is my prediction, he's going to want a second term in office, and he knows that if he doesn't keep his word, that won't be happening for him!
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    Don't bet on that for a minute. The GOP is going to count on giving Amnesty and gaining the Hispanic vote, then they won't need ours. This is all about furthering Nafta and nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevetheroofer View Post
    This is my prediction, he's going to want a second term in office, and he knows that if he doesn't keep his word, that won't be happening for him!
    Or he can continue the status quot and not piss off anyone to get his second term. Status quot would be simply ignoring the issue. No significant deportations, but also no amnesty.

    He's left himself enough wiggle room and that is so like a typical politician, one that doesn't truly care about illegal immigration. If he did he would be decisive and firm on his stance. He's never been personally affected by it, why would he care, he's a millionaire! The rest of us have to deal with the problem on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by googler View Post
    He's never been personally affected by it, why would he care, he's a millionaire.
    You know I was so busy debating this with you, that I never got a chance to "Welcome" you to Alipac, now back to business. Romney has made his stance clear about this issue, any Moron with 2 brain cell clacking together would realize that 14 million Americans unemployed minus 8 million illegals holding American jobs equals a 4% unemployment rate!
    Come on' man! This guy is not stupid, "Deportation is, Job Creation" Shoot! I think he'll take the easy route to put Americans back to work! "Get! Out!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by googler View Post

    He's left himself enough wiggle room and that is so like a typical politician, one that doesn't truly care about illegal immigration. If he did he would be decisive and firm on his stance.
    He wiggled and showed his infirmities last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard View Post
    He wiggled and showed his infirmities last night.
    As always, you were right on the money. I never trusted the guy since the day he announced his run for the Presidency.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevetheroofer View Post
    You know I was so busy debating this with you, that I never got a chance to "Welcome" you to Alipac, now back to business. Romney has made his stance clear about this issue, any Moron with 2 brain cell clacking together would realize that 14 million Americans unemployed minus 8 million illegals holding American jobs equals a 4% unemployment rate!
    Come on' man! This guy is not stupid, "Deportation is, Job Creation" Shoot! I think he'll take the easy route to put Americans back to work! "Get! Out!"
    Oh right.... You're the one that called me a "liar" for calling your guy, Romney, out. It looks to me like the only person lying here is Romney. Oh and Newt as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by googler View Post
    Oh right.... You're the one that called me a "liar" for calling your guy, Romney, out. It looks to me like the only person lying here is Romney. Oh and Newt as well.
    Wow! you had to go back a few pages to dig this up! Still instigating between Paul supporters and well anyone else I see!
    And I didn't call you a "liar" I just said you were wrong and well I see you're still wrong!

    I want to take control of the WH, take control of the Senate, and remain in control of the House, I don't think we're on the same page here! But hey! it was nice disgusting this with you anyway.
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