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    House Defeats Effort to Rein In N.S.A. Data Gathering

    House Defeats Effort to Rein In N.S.A. Data Gathering

    By JONATHAN WEISMAN

    Published: July 24, 2013

    WASHINGTON — A divided House defeated legislation Wednesday that would have blocked the National Security Agency from collecting vast amounts of phone records, handing the Obama administration a hard-fought victory in the first Congressional showdown on intelligence policy since Edward J. Snowden’s security breaches last month.

    But the bipartisan coalition, pressing to rein in the N.S.A., vowed that increasing outrage unleashed by Mr. Snowden’s leaks would overwhelm opposition in the coming months.

    The 217-205 vote was far closer than expected and displayed the shifting allegiances and fierce lobbying on both sides. Conservative Republicans — leery of what they see as Obama administration abuses of power — teamed with liberal Democrats long opposed to intrusive intelligence programs in a left-right coalition.

    The Obama administration made common cause with the House Republican leadership to try to block it.

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    We will carry our fight to the Senate next, Mark Udall & Ron Wyden will be introducing a similar Bill in the Senate. This is not a Left vs Right issue, this is an American Issue, everybodies freedoms are at stake here.
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    FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 412(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)
    H R 2397 RECORDED VOTE 24-Jul-2013 6:51 PM
    AUTHOR(S): Amash of Michigan Amendment No. 100
    QUESTION: On Agreeing to the Amendment

    Ayes Noes PRES NV
    Republican 94 134 6
    Democratic 111 83 6
    Independent
    TOTALS 205 217 12


    ---- AYES 205 ---
    Amash
    Amodei
    Bachus
    Barton
    Bass
    Becerra
    Bentivolio
    Bishop (UT)
    Black
    Blackburn
    Blumenauer
    Bonamici
    Brady (PA)
    Braley (IA)
    Bridenstine
    Broun (GA)
    Buchanan
    Burgess
    Capps
    Capuano
    Cárdenas
    Carson (IN)
    Cartwright
    Cassidy
    Chabot
    Chaffetz
    Chu
    Cicilline
    Clarke
    Clay
    Cleaver
    Clyburn
    Coffman
    Cohen
    Connolly
    Conyers
    Courtney
    Cramer
    Crowley
    Cummings
    Daines
    Davis, Danny
    Davis, Rodney
    DeFazio
    DeGette
    DeLauro
    DelBene
    DeSantis
    DesJarlais
    Deutch
    Dingell
    Doggett
    Doyle
    Duffy
    Duncan (SC)
    Duncan (TN)
    Edwards
    Ellison
    Eshoo
    Farenthold
    Farr
    Fattah
    Fincher
    Fitzpatrick
    Fleischmann
    Fleming
    Fudge
    Gabbard
    Garamendi
    Gardner
    Garrett
    Gibson
    Gohmert
    Gosar
    Gowdy
    Graves (GA)
    Grayson
    Green, Gene
    Griffin (AR)
    Griffith (VA)
    Grijalva
    Hahn
    Hall
    Harris
    Hastings (FL)
    Holt
    Honda
    Huelskamp
    Huffman
    Huizenga (MI)
    Hultgren
    Jeffries
    Jenkins
    Johnson (OH)
    Jones
    Jordan
    Keating
    Kildee
    Kingston
    Labrador
    LaMalfa
    Lamborn
    Larson (CT)
    Lee (CA)
    Lewis
    Loebsack
    Lofgren
    Lowenthal
    Lujan Grisham (NM)
    Luján, Ben Ray (NM)
    Lummis
    Lynch
    Maffei
    Maloney, Carolyn
    Marchant
    Massie
    Matsui
    McClintock
    McCollum
    McDermott
    McGovern
    McHenry
    McMorris Rodgers
    Meadows
    Mica
    Michaud
    Miller, Gary
    Miller, George
    Moore
    Moran
    Mullin
    Mulvaney
    Nadler
    Napolitano
    Neal
    Nolan
    Nugent
    O'Rourke
    Owens
    Pascrell
    Pastor (AZ)
    Pearce
    Perlmutter
    Perry
    Petri
    Pingree (ME)
    Pocan
    Poe (TX)
    Polis
    Posey
    Price (GA)
    Radel
    Rahall
    Rangel
    Ribble
    Rice (SC)
    Richmond
    Roe (TN)
    Rohrabacher
    Ross
    Rothfus
    Roybal-Allard
    Rush
    Salmon
    Sánchez, Linda T.
    Sanchez, Loretta
    Sanford
    Sarbanes
    Scalise
    Schiff
    Schrader
    Schweikert
    Scott (VA)
    Sensenbrenner
    Serrano
    Shea-Porter
    Sherman
    Smith (MO)
    Smith (NJ)
    Southerland
    Speier
    Stewart
    Stockman
    Swalwell (CA)
    Takano
    Thompson (MS)
    Thompson (PA)
    Tierney
    Tipton
    Tonko
    Tsongas
    Vela
    Velázquez
    Walz
    Waters
    Watt
    Waxman
    Weber (TX)
    Welch
    Williams
    Wilson (SC)
    Yarmuth
    Yoder
    Yoho
    Young (AK)

    ---- NOES 217 ---
    Aderholt
    Alexander
    Andrews
    Bachmann
    Barber
    Barr
    Barrow (GA)
    Benishek
    Bera (CA)
    Bilirakis
    Bishop (GA)
    Bishop (NY)
    Boehner
    Bonner
    Boustany
    Brady (TX)
    Brooks (AL)
    Brooks (IN)
    Brown (FL)
    Brownley (CA)
    Bucshon
    Butterfield
    Calvert
    Camp
    Cantor
    Capito
    Carney
    Carter
    Castor (FL)
    Castro (TX)
    Cole
    Collins (GA)
    Collins (NY)
    Conaway
    Cook
    Cooper
    Costa
    Cotton
    Crawford
    Crenshaw
    Cuellar
    Culberson
    Davis (CA)
    Delaney
    Denham
    Dent
    Diaz-Balart
    Duckworth
    Ellmers
    Engel
    Enyart
    Esty
    Flores
    Forbes
    Fortenberry
    Foster
    Foxx
    Frankel (FL)
    Franks (AZ)
    Frelinghuysen
    Gallego
    Garcia
    Gerlach
    Gibbs
    Gingrey (GA)
    Goodlatte
    Granger
    Graves (MO)
    Green, Al
    Grimm
    Guthrie
    Gutiérrez
    Hanabusa
    Hanna
    Harper
    Hartzler
    Hastings (WA)
    Heck (NV)
    Heck (WA)
    Hensarling
    Higgins
    Himes
    Hinojosa
    Holding
    Hoyer
    Hudson
    Hunter
    Hurt
    Israel
    Issa
    Jackson Lee
    Johnson (GA)
    Johnson, E. B.
    Johnson, Sam
    Joyce
    Kaptur
    Kelly (IL)
    Kelly (PA)
    Kennedy
    Kilmer
    Kind
    King (IA)
    King (NY)
    Kinzinger (IL)
    Kirkpatrick
    Kline
    Kuster
    Lance
    Langevin
    Lankford
    Larsen (WA)
    Latham
    Latta
    Levin
    Lipinski
    LoBiondo
    Long
    Lowey
    Lucas
    Luetkemeyer
    Maloney, Sean
    Marino
    Matheson
    McCarthy (CA)
    McCaul
    McIntyre
    McKeon
    McKinley
    McNerney
    Meehan
    Meeks
    Meng
    Messer
    Miller (FL)
    Miller (MI)
    Murphy (FL)
    Murphy (PA)
    Neugebauer
    Noem
    Nunes
    Nunnelee
    Olson
    Palazzo
    Paulsen
    Payne
    Pelosi
    Peters (CA)
    Peters (MI)
    Peterson
    Pittenger
    Pitts
    Pompeo
    Price (NC)
    Quigley
    Reed
    Reichert
    Renacci
    Rigell
    Roby
    Rogers (AL)
    Rogers (KY)
    Rogers (MI)
    Rooney
    Ros-Lehtinen
    Roskam
    Royce
    Ruiz
    Runyan
    Ruppersberger
    Ryan (OH)
    Ryan (WI)
    Schakowsky
    Schneider
    Schwartz
    Scott, Austin
    Scott, David
    Sessions
    Sewell (AL)
    Shimkus
    Shuster
    Simpson
    Sinema
    Sires
    Slaughter
    Smith (NE)
    Smith (TX)
    Smith (WA)
    Stivers
    Stutzman
    Terry
    Thompson (CA)
    Thornberry
    Tiberi
    Titus
    Turner
    Upton
    Valadao
    Van Hollen
    Vargas
    Veasey
    Visclosky
    Wagner
    Walberg
    Walden
    Walorski
    Wasserman Schultz
    Webster (FL)
    Wenstrup
    Westmoreland
    Whitfield
    Wilson (FL)
    Wittman
    Wolf
    Womack
    Woodall
    Young (FL)
    Young (IN)

    ---- NOT VOTING 12 ---
    Barletta
    Beatty
    Bustos
    Campbell
    Coble
    Herrera Beutler
    Horsford
    McCarthy (NY)
    Negrete McLeod
    Pallone
    Rokita
    Schock


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    House passes defense spending bill, rejects effort to cut off NSA surveillance program

    Published July 24, 2013FoxNews.com




    The House of Representatives passed a $598.3 billion defense spending bill Wednesday, while rejecting an amendment to the bill that would have challenged the National Security Agency’s collection of millions of Americans’ phone records, in a debate that clashed privacy rights against the fight to thwart terror.

    The defense spending bill passed 315 to 109. The amendment was voted down 217-205 on an issue that created unusual political coalitions in Washington, with libertarian-leaning conservatives and liberal Democrats pressing for the change against the Obama administration, the Republican establishment and Congress' national security experts.

    94 Republicans and 111 Democrats voted for the amendment, while 134 Republicans and 83 Democrats voted no.

    The showdown vote marked the first chance for lawmakers to take a stand on the secret surveillance program since former NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden leaked classified documents last month that spelled out the monumental scope of the government's activities.

    It is unlikely to be the final word on government intrusion to defend the nation and Americans' civil liberties.

    "Have 12 years gone by and our memories faded so badly that we forgot what happened on Sept. 11?" Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., chairman of the Intelligence committee, said in pleading with his colleagues to back the program during House debate.

    Republican Rep. Justin Amash of Michigan, chief sponsor of the repeal effort, said his aim was to end the indiscriminate collection of Americans' phone records.
    After the vote, Amash could barely hide his frustration, telling reporters: “Ask the American people if the House did the right thing."

    His measure, offered as an addition to the defense spending bill, would have canceled the statutory authority for the NSA program, ending the agency's ability to collect phone records and metadata under the USA Patriot Act unless it identified an individual under investigation.

    Amash told the House that his effort was to defend the Constitution and "defend the privacy of every American."

    The unusual political coalitions were on full display during a spirited but brief House debate.

    "Let us not deal in false narratives. Let's deal in facts that will keep Americans safe," said Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., a member of the Intelligence committee who implored her colleagues to back a program that she argued was vital in combatting terrorism.

    But Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., a senior member of the Judiciary Committee who helped write the Patriot Act, insisted "the time has come" to stop the collection of phone records.

    Several Republicans acknowledged the difficulty in balancing civil liberties against national security, but expressed suspicion about the Obama administration's implementation of the NSA programs -- and anger at Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

    "Right now the balancing is being done by people we do not know. People who lied to this body," said Rep. Mick Mulvaney, R-S.C.

    He was referring to Clapper who admitted he gave misleading statements to Congress on how much the U.S. spies on Americans. Clapper apologized to lawmakers earlier this month after saying in March that the U.S. does not gather data on citizens -- something that Snowden revealed as false by releasing documents showing the NSA collects millions of phone records.

    With a flurry of letters, statements and tweets, both sides lobbied furiously in the hours prior to the vote in the Republican-controlled House. In a last-minute statement, Clapper warned against dismantling a critical intelligence tool.

    Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Congress has authorized -- and a Republican and a Democratic president have signed -- extensions of the powers to search records and conduct roving wiretaps in pursuit of terrorists.

    Two years ago, in a strong bipartisan statement, the Senate voted 72-23 to renew the Patriot Act and the House backed the extension 250-153.

    Since the disclosures this year, however, lawmakers have said they were shocked by the scope of the two programs -- one to collect records of hundreds of millions of calls and the other allowing the NSA to sweep up Internet usage data from around the world that goes through nine major U.S.-based providers.

    Although Republican leaders agreed to a vote on the Amash amendment, one of 100 to the defense spending bill, time for debate was limited to 15 minutes out of the two days the House dedicated to the overall legislation.

    The White House and the director of the NSA, Army Gen. Keith Alexander, made last-minute appeals to lawmakers, urging them to oppose the amendment. Rogers and Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Md., leaders of the House Intelligence committee, implored their colleagues to back the NSA program.

    Eight former attorneys general, CIA directors and national security experts wrote in a letter to lawmakers that the two programs are fully authorized by law and "conducted in a manner that appropriately respects the privacy and civil liberties interests of Americans."

    White House press secretary Jay Carney issued an unusual, nighttime statement on the eve of Wednesday's vote, arguing that the change would "hastily dismantle one of our intelligence community's counterterrorism tools."

    Proponents of the NSA programs argue that the surveillance operations have been successful in thwarting at least 50 terror plots across 20 countries, including 10 to 12 directed at the United States. Among them was a 2009 plot to strike at the New York Stock Exchange.

    Rogers joined six GOP committee chairmen in a letter urging lawmakers to reject the Amash amendment.

    "While many members have legitimate questions about the NSA metadata program, including whether there are sufficient protections for Americans' civil liberties," the chairman wrote, "eliminating this program altogether without careful deliberation would not reflect our duty, under Article I of the Constitution, to provide for the common defense."

    The overall defense spending bill would provide the Pentagon with $512.5 billion for weapons, personnel, aircraft and ships plus $85.8 billion for the war in Afghanistan for the next budget year.

    The total, which is $5.1 billion below current spending, has drawn a veto threat from the White House, which argues that it would force the administration to cut education, health research and other domestic programs in order to boost spending for the Pentagon.

    In a leap of faith, the bill assumes that Congress and the administration will resolve the automatic, across-the-board spending cuts that have led the Pentagon to furlough workers and cut back on training. The bill projects spending in the next fiscal year at $28.1 billion above the so-called sequester level.

    By voice vote, the House backed an amendment that would require the president to seek congressional approval before sending U.S. military forces into the 2-year-old civil war in Syria.

    Rep. Trey Radel, R-Fla., sponsor of the measure, said Obama has a "cloudy foreign policy" and noted the nation's war weariness after more than 10 years of conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The administration is moving ahead with sending weapons to vetted rebels, but Obama and members of Congress have rejected the notion of U.S. ground forces.

    The House also adopted, by voice vote, an amendment barring funds for military or paramilitary operations in Egypt. Several lawmakers, including Rep. Kay Granger, R-Texas, who heads the panel overseeing foreign aid, expressed concerns about the measure jeopardizing the United States' longstanding relationship with the Egyptian military.

    The sponsor of the measure, Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., insisted that his amendment would not affect that relationship.

    The overall bill must be reconciled with whatever measure the Democratic-controlled Senate produces.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/24/house-rejects-effort-to-cut-off-nsa-surveillance-program/
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