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    Oops! Gun-map hate mail goes to wrong paper: See what people really think about Journ

    'Rolling with laughter' over gun-map flap
    In the highly competitive world of the news media, one New York newspaper is apparently more than happy to embarrass another in connection with the recent gun-map controversy.

    Get a load of the hate mail flooding in from around the country.

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    Oops! Gun-map hate mail goes to wrong paper

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    Published: 23 hours ago by Joe Kovacs

    The Journal News of New York published an interactive map of permitted gun owners, prompting a firestorm of controversy.

    In the highly competitive world of the news media, one New York paper is apparently more than happy to embarrass another in connection with the recent gun-map controversy.

    The Journal News, which serves readers in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties, recently caused a firestorm of anger when it published an interactive map of addresses, helping identify people who legally own guns in its area. Ironically, the Journal News has since reportedly hired armed guards to protect its own staff.

    But some of the public’s comments intended to scourge the Journal News have been mistakenly sent to the wrong newspaper, the Rockland County Times.

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    Now, editors at the Rockland paper are going public with those messages.

    “The Rockland County Times has decided to publish these letters in the interest of showing exactly how the Journal News’ gun-map stunt made people around North America feel!” the paper shouted Wednesday.

    It adds that “most of the letter-writers offered their apologies upon learning they sent their letter to the wrong newspaper.”

    One reader, Terry Mulinski of Bothell, Wash., praised the Journal News, saying, “Good call on publishing. What ARE they complaining about?”

    But most of the other comments vented a sense of outrage, with some using humor to express their displeasure.

    Here is a sampling of some of the letters meant for the Journal News, but received and now published by the Rockland County Times:


    • What is next will you be publishing a list of everyone in Rockland and Westchester who has a legitimate prescription for pain meds, because pain medicine kills far more people every year than guns. Make sure to highlight the old and frail who have meds the junkies will rob and kill for. This was a very dangerous move. You should be ashamed of yourself!! I would not use your paper to house break a dog! Typical media WHORE!!! – James Horigan


    • Shame on you. Another damn liberal with a printing press. You should be ashamed of yourself as the publisher to release the names and a google interactive map of pistol permit holders. What in the world did you think this would achieve except to cause trouble? The legal owners are not the problem, figure it out. You are just as dangerous as the bad guys, but I’m sure you don’t quite see it that way, because you are an unusual bird. May this stand destroy what the Internet has not yet destroyed of your newspaper. Hail to the Internet for giving us the ability to obtain the names, addresses and phone numbers of those who run and manage your organization. God, I love technology. – Jim Varriale


    • I see that you believe people should not own guns, so you endanger them by putting out their information, but then you turn around and hire armed guards. You are promoting the Communist Agenda and don’t even know it, or maybe you do and just don’t care. Now all the criminals know exactly what houses to rob. I hope you get sued by everyone whose house is robbed. There is no longer one reporter in this entire country who I trust to tell the truth anymore. – David Patton


    • I am rolling with laughter at your paper. How nice it is to print and mock all those people who are bright enough to be able to defend themselves, while believing you have the moral high ground. How quickly the shoe is on the other foot when it comes to your safety. I wish you no harm but you are the typical liberal bastion of hypocrisy. Like Bloomberg and all the others: ‘get rid of the guns,’ while they have bodyguards and you your armed security. Laughable. Crazy people do what crazy people will do. – Al Clayton, Bayville, N.J.


    • You get some negative phone calls and email and you have to hire armed guards. So you don’t have the guts to carry a weapon to protect yourself or others. Instead you use your money to hire someone for your personal defense. You want to have someone with Second Amendment rights protect your First Amendment rights, LOL. What a pathetic response. – Rick Clark, Terre Haute, Ind.


    • BORN 1888, DIED 2013: Obituary for your newspaper’s last headline. What a joke, hiring armed guards to protect yourself, and splashing all over your trash newspaper, law abiding Second Amendment rights to bear arm citizens. You’re a hypocrite and a sad excuse for allowing this. – Ray LeBlanc


    • Pathetic. Hope you are sued and go out of business. I tell everyone about what you did. Very sad. – Mark Ratikan


    • What a bunch of irresponsible twits. Now, how about publishing names and addresses of all the executives of the newspaper. Not so brave about doing that, are you? – Bill Denney


    • Although I am not a registered gun owner, I have a number of friends who are. I thank you for your misguided (and malicious?) publication of their names and addresses, since it will serve to protect them, albeit in a limited way. As I’m sure your research shows, the presence of legal firearms serves as a deterrent to those who would use them illegally. You have, in effect, sent a warning of sorts to those “bad guys” who might be looking (for example) to invade a home. Of course, by so doing, you have also identified those homes that are not protected. If you are truly serious about this issue, why not also focus on criminal control? E.g., call for a mandatory jail sentence for those who use guns during the commission of a crime. Sincerely, Gary Markman, Mahopac, N.Y.


    • Instead of printing private info on law obeying citizens, why wouldn’t you try to expose those who carry illegally. Now criminals know where to go to steal a gun(s). Nice work … maybe one day, one of those stolen guns that you so ignorantly decided to give to a criminal will do harm to an innocent person, or worse, innocent child. Guns don’t kill…people kill. – Kevin Eder


    • Nice of you to print a map of where criminals can break in and steal a gun. Why not print a map of rich people to go with it? Dumb a–es. Oh and I am not a gun owner. Sincerely, William Miller


    • I do believe in the rights of a free press. But what you have done is yell fire in a theater. You gave the bad people in that area of the country a list of homes to break in into if they want to steal guns. Or made every one else a target that their is less of a chance they have a gun in there homes. What were you thinking? – Ken Janssen


    • Thank-you for allowing the printing of residences of people owning guns! Now the criminals will know where NOT to go when robbing and KILLING your people of your city! See how many people in that area get victimized by you printing this! You are a dumba–. – Ron Jeffries


    • I hope you are held responsible for ANY robberies that occur at the addresses that you published, you are despicable low-life people who have NO clue about your military and this country! Military are now polled to ensure that they will fire on Americans if ordered. Write that story, then go buy yourself a gun, learn to use it properly, and store it in a gun safe. Because crazy is out there, vicious is out there and thanks to you, they now have a list to use to get more guns! May you pay for what you have done. Kelly King, Fort Lauderdale



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    What will be final outcome of Obama's anti-gun efforts?

    • America will finally be free of gun violence
    • Gun violence in America will be greatly reduced
    • This is just the beginning – all private firearms must be confiscated
    • Obama should make it illegal to produce and sell ammunition, thus circumventing constitutional problems
    • Nothing. Executive orders have no power. It's just an effort to circumvent Congress and the Constitution
    • Nothing. The American people will roll over and accept their fate as subjects of government
    • It's a major step toward turning America into a police state
    • It could be the final nail in the coffin of liberty in the U.S.
    • He's flirting with the potential for escalated violence, civil disobedience and even revolution
    • Other



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    What will be final outcome of Obama's anti-gun efforts?


    • He's flirting with the potential for escalated violence, civil disobedience and even revolution (67%, 883 Votes)
    • It's a major step toward turning America into a police state (11%, 148 Votes)
    • It could be the final nail in the coffin of liberty in the U.S. (10%, 134 Votes)
    • Nothing. Executive orders have no power. It's just an effort to circumvent Congress and the Constitution (5%, 66 Votes)
    • Nothing. The American people will roll over and accept their fate as subjects of government (3%, 40 Votes)
    • This is just the beginning – all private firearms must be confiscated (2%, 22 Votes)
    • Other (1%, 14 Votes)
    • Gun violence in America will be greatly reduced (0%, 3 Votes)
    • Obama should make it illegal to produce and sell ammunition, thus circumventing constitutional problems (0%, 1 Votes)
    • America will finally be free of gun violence (1%, 0 Votes)

    Total Voters: 1,311

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    Journal News map-listed guns, permits stolen from New City home, cops say

    Originally published: January 17, 2013 12:58 PM
    Updated: January 17, 2013 5:13 PM
    By TIMOTHY O'CONNOR timothy.oconnor@cablevision.com

    Photo credit: Sarah Armaghan | A marked Clarkstown police cruiser and an unmarked cruiser stop in front of Britta Lane in New City. (Jan. 17, 2013)

    Two handguns and two pistol permits were stolen from the New City home of a man whose name and address are listed on the website of a local newspaper as possessing gun permits, police said.

    The thieves ransacked the house Wednesday night, breaking into two safes on the home's third floor and stealing a third safe. The guns were in the stolen safe, police said.

    Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.

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    "The burglary is still under investigation, and there are no facts to support this correlation at this time," Clarkstown Sgt. Joanne Fratianni said in a statement. "If the investigation develops further information, it will be released accordingly."

    Family members at the burglarized home refused to speak publicly Thursday, and police are keeping reporters off the property on the quiet suburban street.

    "At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random crime and the home was not targeted," Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo told News12.

    The burglary comes less than a week after a White Plains homeowner -- who also was listed on the Journal News website as having gun permits -- arrived home to find his home burglarized, with jewelry missing and an attempted break-in of his gun safe. The thieves were not successful, and no guns were stolen.

    White Plains Police Commissioner David Chong said Monday that it was "premature" to connect that burglary to the website listing but said it was part of the police investigation.

    The guns that were stolen in New City included a .45-caliber Colt revolver and a .22-caliber Iver Johnson. Cash, U.S. savings bonds and jewelry were also stolen.

    The homeowner's stolen pistol permits were for Rockland and Orange counties.

    The Journal News has come under criticism from elected officials and police groups for posting the interactive map Dec. 23 that showed the names and addresses of all legal gun permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties.

    The newspaper has not responded to numerous calls for comment.

    The head of the White Plains Police Benevolent Association, Robert Riley, has been one of the fiercest critics of the Journal News map, saying it puts the lives of police and ordinary residents in potential danger.

    "The Journal News printed a virtual treasure map for criminals," Riley said Monday. "It lets the bad guys know who is vulnerable, due to not having a gun permit, and where to go if they wanted a gun."

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