Thread: Pastor's Pregnant Wife Raped & Killed in Indianapolis Home Invasion

Judy,

I can appreciate your concerns about the husband, but Ive seen several ministers react far more positively to terrible loss than I would on many occasions.

With the amount of attention and manpower on this case Im sure the local authorities will get to the bottom of what happened here.

The only thing I have concerns about is how much of the truth of the racist motivations of the attackers the public will learn about and how many other Kill Gangs are now operating out there stirred up by their socialist masters in the media.

Let's not use this site and discussion to add to the misery of a man deemed innocent that just lost his wife and unborn child. If there is some solid evidence of wrongdoing then sure. But let's not air any negative concerns about the victims without something solid.

I wonder if any of these suspects felt their robbing, raping, and killing plans were justified because of the toxic propaganda reaching them from MSNBC and Black Lies Matter?

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Judy,

I can appreciate your concerns about the husband, but Ive seen several ministers react far more positively to terrible loss than I would on many occasions.

With the amount of attention and manpower on this case Im sure the local authorities will get to the bottom of what happened here.

The only thing I have concerns about is how much of the truth of the racist motivations of the attackers the public will learn about and how many other Kill Gangs are now operating out there stirred up by their socialist masters in the media.

Let's not use this site and discussion to add to the misery of a man deemed innocent that just lost his wife and unborn child. If there is some solid evidence of wrongdoing then sure. But let's not air any negative concerns about the victims without something solid.

I wonder if any of these suspects felt their robbing, raping, and killing plans were justified because of the toxic propaganda reaching them from MSNBC and Black Lies Matter?

W

William, the suspects are not part of a "kill gang". The term was misreported. It is the Kilt Gang. K I L T. Fox News clarified its error two days ago. I posted the link yesterday.

Authorities said the men referred to themselves as "The Kilt Gang."

http://fox59.com/2015/11/23/impd-mak...lackburn-case/

Okay on Blackburn discussion. No problem.

The "cooperating individual" providing the narrative to this story is now being called an "informant" in this article:

An informant told police about the morning Taylor, Watson and a third suspect not charged in Blackburn's death broke into her home.

"Watson said there was a woman in the house and Watson busted her in the mouth," the court filing stated.

Taylor threw debit cards into the stolen car they were driving and went back inside the house while Watson and the other man withdrew money from an ATM.

If Watson busted her in the mouth when they entered, and Taylor took debit cards outside and threw them in the car, and the other two drove off, when did they get the pin numbers? How can you withdraw money from an ATM without the pin numbers?

The affidavit says that the two men entered the house that morning after they had robbed two other homes, including one in the same neighborhood. A third man remained outside in a Chrysler Sebring stolen from the first home burglarized that day. That man has not yet been charged in the crimes, but Curry said he is being held on a parole violation in an unrelated case.

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/nationa...82224bf0b.html

So only Taylor and Watson went into the house. The other guy was driving the stolen car and stayed in the car. So where was the dog? It was inside the house when the police got there. Was he put in the garage and then let back in before the police came?

Here's a time line and the first story I've seen that shows they were successful in withdrawing money from the ATM, but on the second try for less money:

NOVEMBER 10 TIMELINE

5:23 a.m. — A 911 call is placed to report a burglary on San Clemente Drive.

6 a.m. — Davey Blackburn leaves his home for L.A. Fitness.

6:36 a.m. — An ATM receipt shows Amanda Blackburn’s card was unsuccessfully used to withdraw $500.

6:54 a.m. — $400 is successfully withdrawn using Amanda Blackburn’s card.

7:05 a.m. — A witness tells police she saw a man dressed in black walking down the street while talking loudly on the phone.

8:17 a.m. — A home on Sunnyfield Court, the same street where Blackburn lives, is reported burglarized.

8:22 a.m. — Davey Blackburn calls 911 to report he found his wife injured and unconscious.

The next morning, Amanda Blackburn was declared dead.

http://wishtv.com/2015/11/23/impd-ar...ckburn-murder/

So they did have a working pin number.

So that's $400 of the minimum $750 for the burglary charge of value of $750 to $50,000, so I wonder what the other $350 was? Maybe they'll report that later.

Amanda Blackburn case: Murder suspects have gang ties

Vic Ryckaert and Jill Disis, jill.disis@indystar.com 6 a.m. EST November 24, 2015

Back in 2009, they called themselves the FAM Gang.

It was a gang comprising at least a dozen teens living on the city's North and Northwest sides. Police noted at the time that one of the ways to enter the gang – the initials stood for Forever After Money, but it also referred to FAMily Untouchable — was to rob someone.

Two of its members back then? A then-14-year-old kid named Jalen “Lil Watt” Watson and a teenager named Diano “D-Loc” Gordon, who was 17 years old and had the words "FAM GANG" tattooed on his forearms.

On Monday, Watson, now 21, was charged in the murder of Amanda Blackburn, who was killed, police say, during the third stop of a robbery spree on the Northside Nov. 10.

Gordon, now 24, who police say was an accomplice, was recently arrested on a parole violation after being questioned in the Blackburn killing.

A third man, Larry Taylor, 18, also was charged with murder and is the person police say shot and killed Blackburn.

Court documents also link members of the FAM Gang to two high-profile and especially brutal home invasions carried out on the Northside in 2013.

Could the robbery spree that culminated in Blackburn's murder also be a gang crime, perhaps even an initiation?

When asked Monday, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department spokesman Sgt. Kendale Adams emphatically said no.

"Gangs are fluid," Adams said. "There was no known gang activity connected to this particular crime."

It is not known whether Taylor had any ties to the "FAM Gang," though court records show that Watson and Gordon were members as recently as 2011.

The best information about the FAM Gang comes from those records filed in a 2011 burglary case against Watson. Documents mention two more gang members, Michael Pugh and Demetre Brown, who were recently sentenced to hundreds of years in prison for their roles in the 2013 Northside home invasions.

There were several ways to be initiated into the gang, IMPD Officer Matthew Thomas wrote. One of them was to commit a burglary.

Watson burglarized a unit at the Wind Drift Apartments near 38th Street and I-465 in July 2011. He was arrested later that day, wearing an L.A. Dodgers cap that was among the items the victim had reported stolen.

In October 2012, Watson was sentenced to six years in prison for the burglary with two years on probation. The judge also ordered another four years of prison time to be suspended.

"I learned my lesson and just want to finish school," Watson wrote in a letter pleading for leniency that was received by Marion Superior Court on Dec. 27, 2012.

Watson was released in 2013, but he violated probation and went back to prison to serve some of his suspended sentence in 2014, Indiana Department of Correction records show.

Watson was released again from the DOC in August.

In 2010, Gordon was convicted of burglary and aiding in residential entry and sentenced to three years in prison.

In 2012, he was convicted of escape and sentenced to two more years in prison, DOC records show.

​Less is known about Taylor. Juvenile record were not available; his only charge as an adult is an open public indecency case.

In one mention in the court documents filed to support the Blackburn murder case, investigators said someone referred to Taylor as "family," but it was unclear whether that was a reference to the "FAM Gang."

Noting Taylor's age, IMPD Chief Rick Hite suggested Monday that the older men — Watson and Gordon — may have had an influence.

“These are his mentors. Look at the mentoring," Hite said. "It’s about association. It’s about the environment, and the people they choose to hang around with...

"We talk about those things. This is why, because an 18-year-old man should not be walking around with a handgun thinking about killing someone."

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/c...ties/76286244/

Referring to the above article in post above, no mention of the KILT Gang that Fox had reported earlier that authorities had mentioned the men had said they were a part of. And now the police are saying no known gang activity was involved in this crime, although at least 2 of them were former members of the FAM Gang at least up to 2011.

Yet today, in whatever group they're part of, there's someone giving orders, and there's a "cooperating individual" serving as a police informant.

But no gang involved in this crime, according to the police, not only no gang involved, but "emphatically" no gang involved.

Interesting.

Just two ex-cons and a newby out and about doing armed home invasions and murdering Amanda Blackburn.

Well, okay, if you say so.

It looks like the sentencing options are too lenient on home invasions. I'm all for second chances and fair sentencing to fit the crime. But, home invasions are crimes with at least the willingness if not the intent to kill and cause harm to occupants if they're home, so home invasions should have their own category of sentencing, something different than shoplifting or commercial burglaries. A home should be a highly protected space that is protected by law and not thrown into the same batch of public style thievery, which is bad enough, but to break into a home, a personal private space where people are supposed to feel and be safe, that needs to carry very long sentences, not just based on the value of what is stolen, but for the trauma of having your home invaded. Someone who does that is someone who has no respect for other people. The older ones, Watson and Gordon, should have still been in jail for their previous home invasions.

There's an old saying and I do believe it's 80% true, once a thief, always a thief. They get a rush from it, it's more than the monetary value, it's the power of being able to invade your space, help themselves, and of course harm or kill anyone inside who they think is in their way.

The probable cause affidavit.

https://drive.google.com/viewerng/vi...len-watson.pdf

Okay, from the affidavit, the monetary value for the robbery charge appears to be from the sum of the $400 taken off of 1 of 2 bank cards they stole (they didn't steal her purse, wallet or credit cards) and a lap top computer.

That was really good police work by the Indianapolis Police Department and the other agencies that helped them. Very professional tracking of phone data, bank information and witnesses. And they still have a lot of evidence that will be forthcoming from forensics.