Results 1 to 5 of 5
Like Tree1Likes

Thread: Is the president allowed to mobilize National Guard for immigration raids?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #1
    Senior Member JohnDoe2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    PARADISE (San Diego)
    Posts
    99,040

    Is the president allowed to mobilize National Guard for immigration raids?

    Explainer: Is the president allowed to mobilize National Guard for immigration raids?


    Jordan Rudner, Washington CorrespondentConnect with Jordan Rudner


    WASHINGTON — White House officials insisted Friday that they were not imminently planning to use National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants. But a draft memo obtained by the Associated Press did indicate that at one point, someone in the administration had considered the idea.

    The proposal, which the AP posted online, suggested mobilizing up to 100,000 National Guard troops across 11 states to work as immigration officers, seeking out and detaining unauthorized immigrants.


    If President Donald Trump wanted to mobilize the National Guard against civilians, would he be able to?

    And have members of the National Guard ever helped to enforce immigration laws before? Here’s what you need to know:


    Is the president allowed to mobilize members of military for law enforcement?


    Yes — but only under certain limited circumstances.

    Generally, National Guard troops report to the governor of their state, not the president. If Texas Gov. Greg Abbott wanted to order members of the Texas National Guard to start carrying out immigration raids alongside Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, he could. So the quickest way for Trump to accomplish a wide-scale mobilization would be to ask governors to issue the order.


    If a governor refused, it would be difficult for Trump to overrule that governor and federalize the National Guard anyway. The president is only allowed to order members of the National Guard to carry out domestic police functions under extremely limited circumstances. Those limitations date back to the Posse Comitatus Act, signed in 1878.


    One of the few examples where the president was allowed to overrule the governor’s wishes when it came to the National Guard acting as police was in 1957, when President Dwight Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard to help nine black students integrate into a previously all-white high school in Little Rock.


    In that case, he used an exception to Posse Comitatus called the “Enforcement Acts,” which allow the federal government to intervene in cases when the states refused to protect African-Americans’ rights to vote, hold office, and carry out other constitutional rights.

    What does “posse comitatus” mean?


    The term, which has origins in Latin, translates to “the power or the force of the country.” In English common law, it meant that sheriffs or other local law enforcement agents were allowed to conscript able-bodied men in the region to help keep the peace and enforce the law generally. (It’s also the name of the episode that closed season three of The West Wing.)

    Have members of the National Guard been involved in immigration before?


    Yes. In 2006, President George W. Bush ordered 6,000 National Guard members to help secure the U.S.-Mexico border by providing additional surveillance and training full-time border patrol officers. That order was carried out as Operation Jump Start.

    The governors of the four states involved in the operation — Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas — all signed off on the plan. The members focused on surveillance and some construction, but they all operated under extremely limited rules of engagement and did not generally carry out any duties in the realm of apprehending or arresting individuals crossing the border.


    Former President Barack Obama also deployed National Guard troops to serve along the border in 2010. Once again, those troops were not authorized to make any individual arrests.


    There is no precedent for members of the National Guard deliberately seeking out and apprehending unauthorized immigrants.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/immig...igration-raids

    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


    Sign in and post comments here.

    Please support our fight against illegal immigration by joining ALIPAC's email alerts here https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  2. #2
    Super Moderator Newmexican's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Heart of Dixie
    Posts
    36,012
    It is a moot point. The AP screwed up, it was never a serious consideration.
    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  3. #3
    Senior Member nomas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    NC and Canada. Got a foot in both worlds
    Posts
    3,773
    I have the sneaking suspicion that this WAS released, but may have been worded differently to a select few. Namely the suspected leakers! If it were phrased differently for each person it could be the direct link to the leakers. Just my conspiracy theory side coming out LOL!

  4. #4
    Senior Member lsmith1338's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    3,638
    More fake news and what 100,000 National Guard we do not even have that many of them at the ready.
    Freedom isn't free... Don't forget the men who died and gave that right to all of us....
    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at http://eepurl.com/cktGTn

  5. #5
    Senior Member JohnDoe2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    PARADISE (San Diego)
    Posts
    99,040
    Army National Guard – Today's Military

    todaysmilitary.com/joining/army-national-guard
    Find out more about the Army National Guard, whose members train part ... Today's National Guard consists of approximately 384,422 troops from all U.S. states ...
    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


    Sign in and post comments here.

    Please support our fight against illegal immigration by joining ALIPAC's email alerts here https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 06-17-2014, 10:35 AM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 01-24-2014, 03:48 PM
  3. Immigration Agents No Longer Allowed To Barge Into Homes During Raids
    By Jean in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-07-2013, 06:40 AM
  4. National Guard braves elements to guard border
    By JohnDoe2 in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-12-2011, 04:22 PM
  5. Standing guard-National Guard shocked at border
    By Virginiamama in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-15-2006, 12:39 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •