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    Former Diplomats: Trump Team Sought to Lift Sanctions on Russia

    Former Diplomats: Trump Team Sought to Lift Sanctions on Russia

    by Ken Dilanian
    Jun 1 2017, 11:22 pm ET

    The Trump administration was gearing up to lift sanctions on Russia when the president took office, but career diplomats ginned up pressure in Congress to block the move, two senior former State Department officials told NBC News Thursday.

    It's the latest evidence that President Trump moved to turn his favorable campaign rhetoric about Russia into concrete action when he took power.

    Daniel Fried, who served as a senior diplomat until he retired in late February, said he became aware of the sanctions effort in the early weeks of Trump's presidency.

    Fried appeared on MSNBC's Rachel Maddow show Thursday, shortly after the story was first reported by Yahoo News.

    He said State Department colleagues approached him, "concerned that the Trump administration, the incoming team was going to unilaterally rescind the sanctions on Russia, which had been placed there because of Russia's aggression on Ukraine. And it was further said by these people that there would be no action required from Russia."

    The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment from NBC News.

    Fried declined to say who approached him, but "I found the story sufficiently credible, that I was concerned that there might actually be something done quickly."

    So Fried and another former diplomat, Tom Malinowski, who was assistant secretary of state for human rights, began lobbying Congress to pass legislation codifying the sanctions, Malinowski told NBC News. A bill has been introduced in the Senate, but it has not passed.

    The Trump team backed off, Malinowski said he believes, because officials came to see that lifting the sanctions would look terrible light of the drumbeat of revelations over potential Trump campaign coordination with the Russian election interference effort.

    "It would be politically stinky," he said.

    Malinowski said he is now concerned that even if the Trump administration doesn't lift sanctions on Russia, it will stop vigilantly enforcing them. The U.S. Treasury's Office of Foreign Asset Control, which polices sanctions, does not have a permanent chief, and the State Department does not have a permanent sanctions coordinator.

    The Washington Post reported in Thursday's additions that the Trump administration as considering handing back to Russia two U.S. diplomatic compounds that the Obama administration seized as punishment for Russian election hacking.

    Russia has not changed it behavior in any substantive way to merit that or other sanctions relief, Malinowski said.

    "What was troubling about these stories is that suddenly I was hearing that we were preparing to rescind sanctions in exchange for, well, nothing," Fried said on MSNBC.

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    Uuuh yeah, duh! Trump ran on this. It wasn't "rhetoric" like most political speech. It was the truth. Everything Trump said he wanted to do and was going to do, he means to to do. Why would anyone doubt that?

    The American people have spoken. That's why we have elections. Trump should lift the sanctions on Russia soon. Trump should have a big meet-up with Putin and Company and cut a new better deal and relationship with Russia for the United States. Russia is a huge market, with enormous resources. They are nationalistic like most Americans. They are also advanced, intelligent, independent, self-sustaining, articulate, well-educated, hard-working and NEVER WHINE ... characteristics we admire.

    DOUBLE-DOWN, Mr. President. Schedule the HUUUGE meeting with Putin as soon as possible.


    TRUMP TRAIN ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN' TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

    And to you "former diplomats" .... you are a disgrace in my opinion. You are subversives, you are trying to block the will of the American People, you are working towards perpetual conflict and war instead of friendship and peace. SHAME ON YOU!!
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    It wasn't "rhetoric" like most political speech. It was the truth. Everything Trump said he wanted to do and was going to do, he means to to do. Why would anyone doubt that?
    Are you forgetting that he promised to end DACA immediately after being elected President of the United States?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Judy wrote (excerpt):



    Are you forgetting that he promised to end DACA immediately after being elected President of the United States?
    No, I'm not. He'll end DACA. He may not have been able to do everything "day one", but no reasonable person or voter expected him to do that. They expect him to end the program on the earliest date reasonably possible for him.

    Are you forgetting that there are 30 million illegal alien criminals in this country? Unless you're ready to battle them on your street with a kitchen knife when all hell breaks loose, I would strongly suggest you stand by this President and allow him the flexibility all reasonable people allow any leader or manager who is responsible for the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    No, I'm not. He'll end DACA. He may not have been able to do everything "day one", but no reasonable person or voter expected him to do that. They expect him to end the program on the earliest date reasonably possible for him.

    Are you forgetting that there are 30 million illegal alien criminals in this country? Unless you're ready to battle them on your street with a kitchen knife when all hell breaks loose, I would strongly suggest you stand by this President and allow him the flexibility all reasonable people allow any leader or manager who is responsible for the outcome.
    Expecting the President of the United States to keep one of his top campaign promises is not unreasonable IMO. Something is in the works for those currently in the DACA program and I don't think we're going to like the end results. Time will tell which of us is right on this.

    Your and my definition of the word "immediately" obviously doesn't match.

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    Reasonable people will give him the time he needs to achieve it without causing harm or danger to the American People.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Reasonable people will give him the time he needs to achieve it without causing harm or danger to the American People.
    So you're saying it is unreasonable to expect him to keep his promise? He said "immediately" during his campaign, not 3 months, 6 months, or a year later. Most of us "reasonable people" expected DACA to be ended within the first couple days. Here we are over 4 months later and not a peep from the White House on even a pending cancellation of the DACA program. Actually, applications are still being accepted as we speak! This is a BROKEN PROMISE of the highest degree.

    Keep your promise, Mr. President, and end DACA now!

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    I believe when he announces the end of DACA, all hell will break loose and there will be millions of violent big mouth rioters in the streets. That's what I believe. I think that's what he believes. I think we're both right.

    But you are of course entitled to your opinion that all these people will just go silently into the shadows. From what they've shown of themselves for months now, I personally do not believe they will. This has to be handled quickly and quietly without fuss or muss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I believe when he announces the end of DACA, all hell will break loose and there will be millions of violent big mouth rioters in the streets. That's what I believe. I think that's what he believes. I think we're both right.

    But you are of course entitled to your opinion that all these people will just go silently into the shadows. From what they've shown of themselves for months now, I personally do not believe they will. This has to be handled quickly and quietly without fuss or muss.
    There were no caveats included in his promise!

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    So what?! He probably didn't anticipate the level of "resistance" and riots ad protests after the election. I sure didn't. There's 30 million illegal aliens roaming around stealing jobs, killing people, running illegal drugs, running gangs, abusing children, raping women, killing people on our highways, robbing welfare, breeding like rabbits, planning terrorist attacks, bribing our politicians, and so much more, so why obsess over the DACA's? It's June now, so lets see what happens with the idea of "letting it expire in June". We're not sure what that means, but lets find out. Does the DACA and DAPA lawsuit run out? Does the DACA renewal expire? Something expires this month, Sean Spicer said months ago at a White House Press Conference when asked about DACA that "the thinking is to let it expire in June."
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