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    Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Cha

    Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?

    by Tyler Durden
    Aug 17, 2017 3:45 AM


    Trump ignited a political firestorm yesterday during an impromptu press conference in which he said there was "blame on both sides" for the tragic events that occurred in Charlottesville over the weekend.

    Now, the discovery of a craigslist ad posted last Monday, almost a full week before the Charlottesville protests, is raising new questions over whether paid protesters were sourced by a Los Angeles based "public relations firm specializing in innovative events" to serve as agitators in counterprotests.

    The ad was posted by a company called "Crowds on Demand" and offered $25 per hour to "actors and photographers" to participate in events in the "Charlotte, NC area." While the ad didn't explicitly define a role to be filled by its crowd of "actors and photographers" it did ask applicants to comment on whether they were "ok with participating in peaceful protests." Here is the text from the ad:


    Actors and Photographers Wanted in Charlotte

    Crowds on Demand, a Los Angeles-based Public Relations firm specializing in innovative events, is looking for enthusiastic actors and photographers in the Charlotte, NC area to participate in our events. Our events include everything from rallies to protests to corporate <acronym title="Google Page Ranking"><acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym></acronym> stunts to celebrity scenes. The biggest qualification is enthusiasm, a "can-do" spirit. Pay will vary by event but typically is $25+ per hour plus reimbursements for gas/parking/Uber/public transit.

    For more information about us, please visit www.crowdsondemand.com

    If you're interested in working with us, please reply to this posting with the following info:

    • Full Name
    • Prior relevant experience (as an actor/performer, photographer, brand ambassador, political activist, etc)
    • When are you usually available for work?
    • Resume (optional)
    • If you're a photographer, what equipment do you use?
    • Are you ok with participating in peaceful protests (optional)?
    And a screenshot of the original post:


    So what is "Crowds on Demand?" According to their own website, they're in the business of sourcing large crowds of people to "provide clients with protests, rallies, [and] flash-mobs" all over the country. They even have an entire page on their website dedicated to "Protests and Rallies."

    Are you looking to create a buzz anywhere in the United States? At Crowds on Demand, we provide our clients with protests, rallies, flash-mobs, paparazzi events and other inventive <acronym title="Google Page Ranking"><acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym></acronym> stunts. These services are available across the country in every major U.S city, every major U.S metro area and even most smaller cities as well. We provide everything including the people, the materials and even the ideas. You can come to us with a specific plan of action and we can make it happen. OR, you can approach us with a general idea and we can help you plan the strategy then execute it.

    We’ve made campaigns involving hundreds of people come to action in just days. We have a proven record of delivering major wins on even the toughest campaigns and delivering phenomenal experiences with even the most logistically challenging events.

    The CEO of Crowds on Demand denied to Snopes that his firm was involved in the Charlottesville protests but refused to provide details on the specific purpose of the craigslist ad and/or why it was temporarily removed yesterday before being restored.


    "We were not involved in any capacity with the recent tragic events in Charlottesville, Virginia. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those impacted by the violence"
    Silly question, but if your cause is worthy of protest then why would you need to pay $25 per hour to get people to show up?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-recruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee


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    Companies like this should not be allowed to exist, the purpose of protest and rallies is for people who have sincere issues for and against laws etc., have we become a society that pays people who do not even care about what they are protesting or rallying for? Soros should be indicted.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsmith1338 View Post
    Companies like this should not be allowed to exist, the purpose of protest and rallies is for people who have sincere issues for and against laws etc., have we become a society that pays people who do not even care about what they are protesting or rallying for? Soros should be indicted.....
    Are they financially responsible for their employee's actions?
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    About the source, Zerohedge.com

    Who is Zero Hedge, and why should we care?

    BOYD ERMAN

    The Globe and Mail

    Published Friday, Aug. 19, 2011 10:20AM EDT
    Last updated Monday, Sep. 10, 2012 1:31PM EDT




    So just who is Tyler Durden of zerohedge.com, and why is anyone (including the Globe and Mail's Streetwise blog) paying any attention to what he wrote about Canadian banks?
    That's one of the big questions in the fast-growing comment queue in a Streetwise post highlighting Zero Hedge's decidedly bearish take on Canadian banks.
    (That link is here. ) The answer is because despite the fact that Mr. Durden is an anonymous blogger with a nom de plume cribbed from a Brad Pitt movie, what gets written is fairly widely followed. Some big money managers follow the site, and periodically forward me posts.
    In this case, the original Zero Hedge post (available here) landed in my inbox twice from other sources in media and was clearly spreading. Like it or not, people were reading it, so it was worth taking a look at the logic in it.
    Mr. Durden and Zero Hedge have a reputation as provocateurs, and in this case, it's working. The idea of challenging the conventional wisdom that Canadian banks are totally solid is anathema to many Canadian bank boosters, the comments make clear.
    On further thought, Mr. Durden does miss or ignore some things on Canadian banks, including their earning power and their loan loss reserves, as well as the fundamental difference between the challenges Canadian banks and European banks face on their assets.
    But the point is, Zero Hedge provokes the further thought.
    The site says its mission is five fold:
    -to widen the scope of financial, economic and political information available to the professional investing public.
    -to skeptically examine and, where necessary, attack the flaccid institution that financial journalism has become.
    -to liberate oppressed knowledge.
    -to provide analysis uninhibited by political constraint.
    -to facilitate information's unending quest for freedom.
    So, working on the assumption that Mr. Durden is not Brad Pitt, who is he? Is it even a he?
    The site is careful to protect the identities of the writers, but there are a few clues. A trader, Daniel Ivandjiiski, once stated that he was one of a group of contributors who wrote under the Durden handle. (Here's a link to the New York Post) The troubling part about that is that Mr. Ivandjiiski was banned from the securities industry for insider trading, according to the Post.
    Beyond that, there's not much to go on.
    The other assumption of some one reading the Zero Hedge post or the Streetwise reference to it is that the author(s) is/are trying to drive down the price of Canadian bank stocks. Perhaps because they are short the shares, or because they want to get in cheap.
    Reading what Zero Hedge calls its non-policy on conflict of interest, you should assume that's what they are doing. They say as much. Here's a link to the policy, but here's the upshot, in Zero Hedge's inimitable style:
    "So how do we plan to handle conflicts? We don't. You should assume that at all times we are so totally just talking our book it would shock and awe you like the unexpected, early-morning arrival of a cluster of BGM-109C Tomahawks (were you a believer in the importance of "optics" that is)."
    And if that's not clear enough, Zero Hedge goes on to say:
    "The reality is, critical readers should read analytic posts and the rest of Zero Hedge with the blanket assumption that the author is totally 'conflicted.' (Phrased more logically, that the author stands to benefit from being right- imagine that)."
    So is Zero Hedge right about Canadian banks or just being provocative. I think they are probably wrong. I think the comparison between Canadian banks and European banks is misguided, even if they do look alike on this one metric.
    But I consider myself provoked.

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    1-800-HIRE-A-CROWD

    Note, this is an older article but applicable here.
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    The business of generating fake enthusiasm, from flash mobs to the campaign trail

    DAN SCHNEIDER JUL 22, 2015

    Donald Trump's presidential campaign announcement last month was widely mocked, not only for the rambling diatribe he used to launch the campaign but for the actors he paid $50 apiece to cheer for it. Journalists responded with a predictable amount of schadenfreude when it was revealed that the Trump campaign hired actors to attend his rally, lighting up Twitter with jokes at Trump’s expense and “You’re Hired!” headlines. The incident was even memorialized with its own coy shout-out by The Simpsons.

    Such claims of “astroturfing,” the practice of using money and outside support to create the illusion of grassroots enthusiasm, are not unheard of in the political sphere. The Tea Party movement faced astroturfing accusations from left-leaning opponents during its early years, as did George W. Bush for letters of support sent to a newspaper editor via his website.

    The idea of paying for the appearance of excitement offends the belief that a political campaign’s fortunes should be somewhat rooted in genuine support for a candidate. The kind of grassroots fervor generated by Barack Obama in 2008, Ron Paul in 2012, or Bernie Sanders today is aspirational for campaign organizers. But, for politicians with a dearth of excitement, the reason for faking it is obvious: Phony support can generate buzz and media coverage of their campaign—which in turn could theoretically morph into real support, as voters start to hear more about the candidate.

    This tactic hasn’t been limited to bids for higher office. Political protests have also used such services to fortify its crowds: The New York Times reported that, during this year’s NYC Pride Parade, a group of anti-gay marriage “protesters” were actually several hired day laborers. Local carpenters unions—notably the Mid-Atlantic Regional Council of Carpenters—have been using such tactics for years, paying temporary workers (and often the homeless) to walk picket lines during a strike.

    These days, if a candidate or protest organizer is short on numbers, he or she can simply pick up the phone and call a company like Crowds on Demand, a Los Angeles-based company that provides rental crowds for campaign rallies and protests. The company was founded in late 2012 by Adam Swart, a UCLA grad who majored in political science. It is among a very small number of U.S. companies that offers rental crowd services in the U.S. (including Crowds for Rent and the Trump-hired Extra Mile Casting), and perhaps the only one that does so openly.

    While Crowds on Demand was initially geared toward corporate events and <acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> stunts, Swart says that soon after the company’s founding, would-be elected officials began reaching out for his services in order to give their campaigns a boost. Some have used his services to protest opposing candidates; others have used them to create the appearance of larger turnouts at their own events.

    “Our business is about cultivating perception. It’s basic marketing,” Swart said.

    Outside of the realm of politics, Crowds on Demand offers an array of crowd-providing services, ranging from a “celebrity shopping experience”—the client mobbed by fake paparazzi outside a posh L.A. boutique—to big <acronym title="Google Page Ranking">PR</acronym> stunts, such as a 100-person flash mob at a corporate trade show. Swart says his gigs have ranged from two people to hundreds, and that with enough notice (and money) Crowds on Demand can offer more than 1,000 people. But whether the setting is a campaign rally or a convention hall, Crowds on Demand’s goal is always the same: getting people’s attention.

    Crowds on Demand offers its services in San Francisco, New York City, and Washington D.C. Thousands of people have applied to be extras with Crowds on Demand. Swart says that he has the most “crowd actors” in cities where real actors tend to try to make it—New York and L.A.—but he has actors available in political hotspots such as Iowa and New Hampshire as well. And while his company generally works in more populous areas, it isn’t limited by geography—or ideology for that matter.

    “We’re not a Republican or Democratic group, so we’ll work with both. And third parties,” Swart said, adding that Crowds on Demand’s one major prohibition is against working with hate groups.

    While Swart declined to discuss which candidates Crowds on Demand has worked for, the company’s fingerprints have occasionally been spotted. Campaign-finance filings in California show that Crowds on Demand was paid more than $50,000 by the “Six Californias” campaign, a failed ballot initiative funded by Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper to split the Golden State into six independent states. The New York Post also found that scandalized former congressman Anthony Weiner paid Crowds on Demand actors $15 per hour to turn out for events during his bid for mayor of New York City in 2013.

    Similar “crowds-for-hire” companies have also sprung up internationally to create fake support for politicians, including a British company named Envisage Promotions and an Ukranian outfit named “Easy Work,” which paid student protestors $4 an hour to support (and oppose) various politicians. To political experts, these developments are another symptom of a decades-long trend of political professionalization, with campaigns farming out work formerly done by volunteers to a class of paid consultants and specialists. In the case of crowd hiring, it’s actors.

    Costas Panagopoulos, director of the Center for Electoral Politics and Democracy at Fordham University, said that he first heard rumblings of the crowds-for-hire idea around the 2010 midterm elections, and is unsurprised that businesses like Swart’s have come to exist. Campaigns already pay for signature gatherers, canvassers, pollsters, direct-mailing services, and extras in feel-good political ads—why wouldn’t they pay to fill a hotel ballroom?

    “It’s really another example of just how orchestrated political campaigns are these days, and the degree of attention that’s paid to every dimension. Especially visual elements, like crowd size,” Panagopoulos said.

    Though highly-organized and paid-for synthetic support for a candidate may be a fairly new development in American politics, offering a little quid-pro-quo to boost turnout at a political rally is really far from new. “In the 19th century, campaigns did all kinds of things to get people to show up,” said Joe Cummins, the author of Anything for a Vote, which documents seedy campaign tactics used by U.S. presidential candidates throughout history. “If you were an immigrant in those days, the only social safety net was the local precinct of a political organization. Showing up to a rally might mean getting a job, or a meal, or even some money.”

    Offering to feed campaign volunteers is generally accepted in American politics; paying them to show up and cheer is up for debate. There might be some gray area between offering a small token of appreciation to otherwise voluntary supporters and full-blown astroturfing, but spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars to prop up a struggling cause seems to fit more squarely in the latter category.

    For his part, Mr. Swart is adamant that what Crowds on Demand and companies like it do is ethical—and says it’s more ethical than many other modern campaign tactics. “I say it’s far less misleading than negative TV ads that are often proven to be half-truths or complete fabrications,” Swart said. “I’m engaging with the political process and making people think.”

    Still, even Swart admits that a revelation that a campaign is paying for supporters is deeply embarrassing, and he takes great pains to keep his clients’ identities a secret. And for his purposes, probably rightly so. The Trump episode illustrates that the public—and certainly the media—still prefers that crowds be assembled the old fashioned way: flyers, emails, Facebook invitations, and perhaps a harmless slice of campaign-expensed pizza after the party.

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    Disgusting. Hired Mobs should invalidate all permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    About the source, Zerohedge.com

    Who is Zero Hedge, and why should we care?

    BOYD ERMAN

    The Globe and Mail

    Published Friday, Aug. 19, 2011 10:20AM EDT
    Last updated Monday, Sep. 10, 2012 1:31PM EDT

    So just who is Tyler Durden of zerohedge.com, and why is anyone (including the Globe and Mail's Streetwise blog) paying any attention to what he wrote about Canadian banks?
    That's one of the big questions in the fast-growing comment queue in a Streetwise post highlighting Zero Hedge's decidedly bearish take on Canadian banks.
    (That link is here. ) The answer is because despite the fact that Mr. Durden is an anonymous blogger with a nom de plume cribbed from a Brad Pitt movie, what gets written is fairly widely followed. Some big money managers follow the site, and periodically forward me posts.
    In this case, the original Zero Hedge post (available here) landed in my inbox twice from other sources in media and was clearly spreading. Like it or not, people were reading it, so it was worth taking a look at the logic in it.
    Looks like old Tyler got it right this time. My post from 08/15/2017.

    Not when the "protesters" are paid so well. I wonder if they get health insurance also?

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    Actors and Photographers Wanted in Charlotte

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    compensation: $25+/hour
    employment type: contract


    Crowds on Demand, a Los Angeles-based Public Relations firm specializing in innovative events, is looking for enthusiastic actors and photographers in the Charlotte, NC area to participate in our events. Our events include everything from rallies to protests to corporate PR stunts to celebrity scenes. The biggest qualification is enthusiasm, a "can-do" spirit. Pay will vary by event but typically is $25+ per hour plus reimbursements for gas/parking/Uber/public transit.

    For more information about us, please visit www.crowdsondemand.com

    If you're interested in working with us, please reply to this posting with the following info:

    -Full Name
    -Prior relevant experience (as an actor/performer, photographer, brand ambassador, political activist, etc)
    -When are you usually available for work?
    -Resume (optional)
    -If you're a photographer, what equipment do you use?

    • -Are you ok with participating in peaceful protests (optional)?


    Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.

    do NOT contact us with unsolicited services or offers

    post id: 6253305119
    posted: 9 days ago
    updated: about 10 hours ago

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    Donald Trump Campaign Offered Actors $50 to Cheer for Him at Presidential Announcement

    2:53 PM PDT 6/17/2015 by Aaron Couch , Emmet McDermott

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    A casting call was sent out last week "looking to cast people for the event to wear t-shirts and carry signs and help cheer him in support of his announcement."

    Donald Trump's big presidential announcement Tuesday was made a little bigger with help from paid actors — at $50 a pop.

    New York-based Extra Mile Casting sent an email last Friday to its client list of background actors, seeking extras to beef up attendance at Trump's event.


    "We are looking to cast people for the event to wear t-shirts and carry signs and help cheer him in support of his announcement," reads the June 12 email, obtained by The Hollywood Reporter. "We understand this is not a traditional 'background job,' but we believe acting comes in all forms and this is inclusive of that school of thought." (Read the full email at the bottom of the post.)

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    The pay was listed as $50 for less than three hours of work. According to the email, Extra Mile was reaching out to potential extras in partnership with Gotham Government Relations and Communications, a New York-Based political consulting group that has worked with Trump in the past. Gotham GR had no comment.

    Questions as to whether the Trump campaign had hired extras were first raised Wednesday by anti-Trump activist Angelo Carusone, who came across an Instagram photo showing a man he recognized as a background actor posing at the Trump event. Carusone screengrabbed the photo of the actor, Domenico Del Giacco, and published it in a blog post.

    The photo shows Del Giacco with a woman, identified in the now-deleted Instagram post as actress Courtney Klotz. (Del Giacco has since deleted his entire Instagram account.)


    When reached for comment about the Trump casting call, a person who answered the phone at Extra Mile said, "We don't know anything about that." When pressed about whether this response was a denial of the story, the person said she couldn't comment further and hung up. Additional calls to Extra Mile went unanswered.

    Asked if Trump paid anyone to attend the event, campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said "no," and that he had never heard of Extra Mile or Gotham GR.


    "Mr. Trump draws record crowds at almost every venue at which he is a featured speaker," Lewandowski told The Hollywood Reporter. "The crowds are large, often record-setting and enthusiastic, often with standing ovations. Mr. Trump's message is, 'Make America great again.'"

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    Del Giacco and Klotz did not respond to a request for comment.

    In politics, "astroturfing" is the term for hiring people to attend a rally or event in order to lend the appearance of grassroots support. Astroturfing is typically contracted out to political consulting firms, much like Gotham GR. The practice is considered bad form.


    Here's the full email from Extra Mile, with contact information redacted.

    Hi there—

    We are working helping one of are [sic] associates out at Gotham GR -http://gothamgr.com/ with a big event happening on TUESDAY 6/16/15.

    This is an event in support of Donald Trump and an upcoming exciting announcement he will be making at this event.


    This event is called “People for a Stronger America.”

    The entire group is a pro-small business group that is dedicated to encouraging Donald Trump and his latest ventures. This event will be televised.


    We are looking to cast people for the event to wear t-shirts and carry signs and help cheer him in support of his announcement.


    We understand this is not a traditional “background job,” but we believe acting comes in all forms and this is inclusive of that school of thought.


    This event is happening LIVE and will be from 8:45AM-11:30AM. LESS THAN 3 HOURS


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    When reached for comment about the Trump casting call, a person who answered the phone at Extra Mile said, "We don't know anything about that." When pressed about whether this response was a denial of the story, the person said she couldn't comment further and hung up. Additional calls to Extra Mile went unanswered.

    Asked if Trump paid anyone to attend the event, campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said "no," and that he had never heard of Extra Mile or Gotham GR.
    Junk from 2015. No one brought baseball bats, wore masks and tried to assault people?IMO
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