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    As long as we continue to leave our borders open and let the illegals come here our school districts will be drained of money. They come over hear and have as many babies as they can and our school just can keep up with the increases of students. Granted our states are running out of money, but firing teachers, increasing class size, cutting preK, and cutting AP programs is not going to solve the problem. Illegals will still be having babies faster than we can build new schools. Where will the extra money come from? We are putting a band-aid on the problem. It won't end until our government stops the flow of illegal aliens and anchor babies.
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    Sad thing is most illegals and anchors do not have an emphasis put on education so a lot of it is a HUGE waste of time and taxpayer money anyway. I've seen this stated many times by teachers who are unlucky enough to have them in their class.

    It would be a bit easier to swallow if they actually appreciated the "free" education they get - but most just don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
    Sad thing is most illegals and anchors do not have an emphasis put on education so a lot of it is a HUGE waste of time and taxpayer money anyway. I've seen this stated many times by teachers who are unlucky enough to have them in their class.

    It would be a bit easier to swallow if they actually appreciated the "free" education they get - but most just don't care.
    AMEN! Isn't it ironic that our government steals an education from our own kids and give it to kids who don't want it.

    Here is a typical example of what teachers have to deal with, an 18 year old Mexican anchor baby who is on probation for who knows what is admitted to school in the 10th grade. He sits in each of his classes for 6 weeks and does absolutely nothing. No pen, no paper, and no work, his 6 weeks grade is ZERO. He is given paper, given pens and ask to work only to leave all that he was given on the desk after class with no work being done. Finally I ask him just what in the hell he was doing wasting his time in school. He says it real simple, his probation office makes him go and when his probation is up in August he is dropping out. Meanwhile, teachers are held accountable for this students success. It's kids like this who our government is so concerned about educating while they take money and programs from American kids who have parents who actually value and education. Kind of makes teachers mad that we have been delegated to nothing more than baby sitters, but we are professionals and just smile and continue to do the best we can with what we are given.
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    Here in NYC the Asian population is doing the exact opposite, as this article shows. While they are just about 12% of the population their kids are winning more than 50% of the seats to Specialized HS's. A seat at one of these schools is akin to going to a 20grand a yr. prep school. Immigration status is NOT checked.

    My oldest son went to BT but my youngest missed the cut by 1 question on the 4 hr test. I later found out that a 'bridge program' set aside seats for kids who just missed the cut with these qualifiers, 1) have lived in the US for 2yrs or less, 2) spoke English as a second language, 3) were economically disadvantaged. Almost every one of these set aside seats went to Asians.

    Racial gap persists for city’s specialized high schools
    by Anna Phillips
    February 11, 2011

    Today’s the day that guidance counselors distribute envelopes to eighth graders with news of whether and which of the city’s top-tier high schools opened the door for them. But for minority students, the news continues to be grim.

    Combined, white and Asian students account for 70 percent of the students admitted to elite schools like Stuyvesant, the Bronx High School of Science, and Brooklyn Technical High School. Hispanic students make up 6 percent of those admitted and black students 5 percent. The remainder, 18 percent, come from private or parochial schools and racial data for them was not available.

    Despite repeated statements of concern from city officials about the tiny number of minority students earning entry to top high schools, the numbers have only declined in the last three years. In 2009, 744 black and Hispanic students earned seats at specialized high schools. This year, 642 made it in.

    Meanwhile, the number of minority students sitting for the exams has increased. Black and Hispanic students now make up a greater percentage of test takers than they did in 2009.

    The numbers are even more concerning in the schools that are the elite of the elite. This year, 12 black students earned spots at Stuyvesant High School, which is actually an improvement over last year when 7 students received offers.

    In total, 5,404 eighth graders earned seats at one of the city’s eight specialized high schools that admit students purely based on their scores on the SHSAT (Specialized High Schools Admissions Test). A ninth specialized school, LaGuardia High School, auditions students for its music and arts programs. It offered seats to 962 students, about a third of whom also received offers from one other specialized school.

    The Department of Education would not release the range of scores earned by students accepted to individual schools. Students are often able to figure this out on their own by comparing notes with classmates.

    A spokesman said that releasing each school’s lowest score would give future applicants the impression that some schools are easier to get into than others, causing some of them to aim for schools they believe will accept them rather than the schools they really want to attend. As an example, he cited Brooklyn Technical High School, which is one of the city’s most popular elite high schools, but is also so large that it admits students with some of the highest scores and some of the lowest.

    Students have until February 28 to accept an offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtex
    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal
    Sad thing is most illegals and anchors do not have an emphasis put on education so a lot of it is a HUGE waste of time and taxpayer money anyway. I've seen this stated many times by teachers who are unlucky enough to have them in their class.

    It would be a bit easier to swallow if they actually appreciated the "free" education they get - but most just don't care.
    AMEN! Isn't it ironic that our government steals an education from our own kids and give it to kids who don't want it.

    Here is a typical example of what teachers have to deal with, an 18 year old Mexican anchor baby who is on probation for who knows what is admitted to school in the 10th grade. He sits in each of his classes for 6 weeks and does absolutely nothing. No pen, no paper, and no work, his 6 weeks grade is ZERO. He is given paper, given pens and ask to work only to leave all that he was given on the desk after class with no work being done. Finally I ask him just what in the hell he was doing wasting his time in school. He says it real simple, his probation office makes him go and when his probation is up in August he is dropping out. Meanwhile, teachers are held accountable for this students success. It's kids like this who our government is so concerned about educating while they take money and programs from American kids who have parents who actually value and education. Kind of makes teachers mad that we have been delegated to nothing more than baby sitters, but we are professionals and just smile and continue to do the best we can with what we are given.
    Adding to what you stated, there are hundreds that cross the Mexican border daily , receive free breakfast, lunch, bilingual education and cross back over the border and go home at the end of the day. All of which we the taxpayers are forcedly obligated to finance.

    Meanwhile back at the ranch, US students are being denied a quality education because the interpreters take up all of the classroom time interpreting for a bunch of illegal aliens who could care less about education.

    I am willing to bet that their parents send them out the door so that can be fed at our expense and they can be rid of the burden of having to be bothered with children who are nothing more than a source of income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost
    When did we become the doormat to the world?
    Immediately after Reagan signed the 1st amnesty.
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