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    Rampant voter fraud by illegal aliens ignored by government and media

    From 2008. Do you think it got better or worse in 2012?

    August 10, 2008
    Rampant voter fraud by illegal aliens ignored by government and media

    By Jim Kouri

    A recent study released by the conservative think-tank the Heritage Foundation provides proof that illegal aliens and immigrants with green cards are committing rampant voter fraud in the United States.

    Reports of ineligible persons registering to vote have raised concerns about state processes for verifying voter registration lists. States usually base voter eligibility on the voter's age, US citizenship, mental competence, and felon status.

    Although individual states run elections, Congress has authority to affect the administration of the elections. The Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA) had set a deadline for states to have a statewide voter registration list and list verification procedures.

    For example, the methods used in seven selected states to verify voter eligibility and ensure accuracy of voter registration lists were varied and include relying on registrant self attestation, return mailings, and checking against lists of felony convictions or deceased individuals. Some states, for instance, failed to do any more than ask on their application forms if the registrant was a US citizen. The applicant will merely check off the "Yes" box, but there is no action to verify the authenticity of that answer.

    "The voter registration officials simply take the word of the registrant with no follow-up," said conservative political strategist Michael Baker.

    "Some states that require some backup documentation merely ask for a utility bill or a driver's license — neither of which prove citizenship. In other words, legal or illegal aliens can easily register to vote in local and national elections," warns Baker.

    According to a Congressional study of voter fraud, other challenges such as identifying duplicate registrations in other states or having insufficient information to match other data sources with voter registration lists may continue to be issues.

    < http://www,gao.gov/htext/d05478.html >

    While federal data sources have the potential to help state election officials identify registrants who may be convicted felons or non-citizens, few states communicate with federal agencies such as the Homeland Security Department's immigration section.

    Many government officials — mostly liberals — claim that illegal aliens voting is not a major problem, conservative activists respond that while the potential number identified may be small, an election can be decided by a few votes. In 2004, the presidential race between Democrat Al Gore and Republican George W. Bush was decided by a few hundred votes in Florida.

    "While the news media perpetuated the assertion that Bush and the GOP 'stole' the election, it could very well have been illegal aliens voting in Florida that made the outcome so close," said former NYPD cop, now security firm owner, Sid Francis.

    "Bush may have beaten Gore by more votes if illegals were excluded, since immigrants tend to vote for Democrats. Or Gore could have won decisively had there been prior screening before people were allowed into the voting booths," said Det. Francis.

    "There was absolutely no mention in the mainstream media regarding suspected voter fraud by illegal or legal aliens. It was much easier for the agenda-driven newspeople to accuse Republicans of stealing the election," added Baker.

    "Florida is not unique. Thousands of non-citizens are registered to vote in some states, and tens if not hundreds of thousands in total may be present on the voter rolls nationwide. These numbers are significant: Local elections are often decided by only a handful of votes, and even national elections have likely been within the margin of the number of non-citizens illegally registered to vote," said Hans A. von Spakovsky, a researcher at the Heritage Foundation.

    "There is no reliable method to determine the number of non-citizens registered or actually voting because most laws to ensure that only citizens vote are ignored, are inadequate, or are systematically undermined by government officials. Those who ignore the implications of non-citizen registration and voting either are willfully blind to the problem or may actually favor this form of illegal voting," said Spakovsky, an expert on the subject of illegal aliens and immigration law, during an interview on Fox News Channel.

    < http://www.foxnews.com >

    As far as felons, US Attorneys are required to notify state election officials of federal felony convictions, but the information is not always easy for election officials to interpret or complete, according to New Jersey GOP strategist Janice Martin.

    "Americans would be shocked to discover that hundreds of thousands of general election voters are illegal aliens, green-card immigrants, and criminals who've murdered, raped and robbed US citizens. And guess which political party benefits the most from their votes? The one that's pushing for amnesty and a bag full of free goodies," said Martin.

    Dr. von Spakovsky believes many government officials and politicians are complicit in the voter fraud problem.

    "To keep non-citizens from diluting citizens' votes, immigration and election officials must cooperate far more effectively than they have to date, and state and federal officials must increase their efforts to enforce the laws against non-citizen voting that are already on the books," he wrote in his Heritage Foundation study on illegal alien voter fraud. <The Threat of Non-Citizen Voting >

    "While the liberal media and the liberal establishment ignore what is a huge scandal, American voters are having their rights violated. When an illegal aliens or felon or other person prohibited by law to vote, their votes cancels out those of American citizens," warns Baker.

    "Liberals want illegal aliens and felons to vote. They benefit from such rampant fraud."
    http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/kouri/080810

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    Here in NYC they can also apply for and receive public assistance just as easily.
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    Free schools, health care,housing,food, cell phones, all free, my spouse and I have a combined total work life of over 85 years and the illegal population live better then we do, yep something wrong with our system. I am especially angered at the term comprehensive immigration along with controlled borders both stupid terms,they have come illegally for years and will continue to so as long as we hand out "free stuff".

    For our RINO GOP politicians who believe Hispanics will vote for you dream on, the only way you can win there vote is give them a new Chevy Sierra Pickup.
    I'm old with many opinions few solutions.

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    They are driving BMW's, Mercedies, Volvo's, Lincoln navigators, Humers and seen one last weekend with a Juguar here in North Carolina.

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    "Americans would be shocked to discover that hundreds of thousands of general election voters are illegal aliens, green-card immigrants, and criminals who've murdered, raped and robbed US citizens. And guess which political party benefits the most from their votes? The one that's pushing for amnesty and a bag full of free goodies," said Martin.

    I am not shocked this is how Obama got elected...the bribe was the free phones now the rest will come...The other 60% of us working will pay for it with higher taxes for our new socialized government.

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    I know that those who frequent this web site have given a lot of their personal time and money to defend our national sovereignty, a battle that should be unnecessary to fight. If you become discouraged, remember the tiny, cold and starving army at Valley Forge in the winter of 1776. For those who could read (and there were far more than you might think) and were lucky enough to receive a rare letter from home, the news was usually bad, from exhausted over worked women trying to run a farm when their man was away fighting, news to a husband who may never return, and the pain of women made lonely by the absence of their dearly loved man. Can you imagine how painful it must have been to read those letters? But most of them did stay because their General humbled himself and appealed to them as one man to another -- stay we need you. In this dark hour of our first struggle for national sovereignty George Washington boldly attacked the Hessians (German mercenaries fighting for England) quartered in Trenton, New Jersey.

    We beat em but good. Hessian casualties: 26 killed, 86 wounded, 906 captured; Americans: 2 killed, 5 wounded, obviously, none captured.

    Rembember they were fighting for our national sovereignty as we are today. Remember as colonies of England they were fighting what was presumed to be their own government, as we today are fighting what is presumed to be our government. The parallels are disturbing.

    When you get discouraged and tired of fighting against what often seems to be the whole world, ask yourself if you have given anything comparable to the sacrifices of our founding fathers.

    Remeber this about the winter of 1778: While the American army's supply system is a disaster, leaving the soldiers hungary, some local residents have been busy selling cattle and flour to the British army occupying Philadelphia. Does this sound familiar? -- think, Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, Marko Rubio, Newt Gingrich et al.

    Patriots, get out there and fight like hell against the whole pathetic pile of pandering, sniveling, pseudo conservative, pseudo patriots and their unconscionable alliance with the anti-American radical left socialist / Marxist open borders lobby.

    We fight because we refuse to accept defeat. Be worthy of our founding fathers, be worthy if calling yourselves "Americans."
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    Patriots, get out there and fight like hell against the whole pathetic pile of pandering, sniveling, pseudo conservative, pseudo patriots and their unconscionable alliance with the anti-American radical left socialist / Marxist open borders lobby.

    We fight because we refuse to accept defeat. Be worthy of our founding fathers, be worthy if calling yourselves "Americans."
    Thank you,excellent read, I've been very discourage past 3 years, I came from a family of veterans all the way back to the beginning of our country, it has been sad to see this great country deteriorate due to radicals on the left, people must come awake now.
    The decline in our public schools, lack of morals, standards within our communities all of this combines to destroy our country.
    I'm old with many opinions few solutions.

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