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    Rand Challenges Press: Ask DNC Head ‘If It’s Okay To Kill A 7-Pound Baby In The Uteru

    Rand Challenges Press: Ask DNC Head ‘If It’s Okay To Kill A 7-Pound Baby In The Uterus’

    2:29 PM 04/08/2015

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    A Republican presidential candidate did something new and refreshing when challenged on his abortion views by the press: he threw it back in the face of the Democrats.

    (RELATED: Planned Parenthood Probably Should Have Reconsidered This Anti-Rand Paul Tweet)

    When quizzed on his about his views on abortion, Republican Kentucky Senator Rand Paul avoided the gotcha game and told NH1 reporter Paul Steinhauser to ask DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schultz if it was okay to “kill a 7-pound baby in the uterus.”

    “Why don’t we ask the DNC: Is it okay to kill a 7 pound baby in the uterus?” Paul reportedly said. ”You go back and you ask Debbie Wasserman Schultz if she’s okay with killing a seven pound baby that is not born yet. Ask her when life begins, and you ask Debbie when it’s okay to protect life. When you get an answer from Debbie, get back to me.”

    Reporters from Bloomberg and CNN also tweeted out the candidate’s response.

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    Rand pushes back on abortion Q. "Why don’t we ask the DNC if it's okay to kill a 7 pound baby in the uterus?"
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    "Ask Debbie Wasserman Schultz if it's okay to kill a 7-pound baby in the uterus." -- Rand Paul when asked about his stance on abortion
    12:24 PM - 8 Apr 2015


    In 2013, Wasserman Schultz opposed a House of Representatives bill to ban late-term abortions, calling it an extreme, unprecedented reach into women’s lives.”

    WATCH (beginning at 8:02):
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    http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/08/rand-challenges-press-ask-dnc-head-if-its-okay-to-kill-a-7-pound-baby-in-the-uterus/

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    Advice to Republican candidates for President, try not to make headlines on either the abortion or gay marriage issues. Rand Paul, you aren't running against Debbie Schulz. You're supposed to be running for something, like fixing our country. When you run against abortion, you aren't doing that, instead you're running against women and men who support them which is the majority of American voters.

    America is in the worst over-population crisis in our history and any presidential candidate agenda that calls for the federal government or states to promote or pass anti-abortion legislation will not fare well and our candidates who might have otherwise been able to at least start the fix of our country will be denied the chance to do so in the 2016 elections. And they won't just be denied that opportunity by Democrats, they'll be denied that opportunity by Pro-Choice Republicans as well.

    It's a shame Rand Paul didn't understand that when he chose to make his "tweet".

    If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...93b_story.html

    Maternal deaths related to childbirth in the United States are nearly at the highest rate in a quarter century, and a woman giving birth in America is now more likely to die than a woman giving birth in China, according to a new study.


    The United States is one of just eight countries to see a rise in maternal mortality over the past decade, said researchers for the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington in a study published in The Lancet, a weekly medical journal. The others are Afghanistan, Greece, and several countries in Africa and Central America.


    The researchers estimated that 18.5 mothers died for every 100,000 births in the U.S. in 2013, a total of almost 800 deaths. That is more than double the maternal mortality rate in Saudi Arabia and Canada, and more than triple the rate in the United Kingdom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Advice to Republican candidates for President, try not to make headlines on either the abortion or gay marriage issues. Rand Paul, you aren't running against Debbie Schulz. You're supposed to be running for something....

    If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.
    Looks like Libertarians are pro-Choice - except when it concerns a woman's right to choose.
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    Judy wrote:

    instead you're running against women and men who support them which is the majority of American voters.
    Do you have any data to support your claim that "the majority of American voters" support late term abortions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
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    Do you have any data to support your claim that "the majority of American voters" support late term abortions?
    That's not what I claim. Please re-read the statement. My statement is women and the men who support them are the majority of American voters. When you run against abortion, you're running against women's rights. When you run against women's rights, you're running against the majority of American voters, whether they support late-term abortions or early-term abortions or no abortions. When you run against abortions, you're running against women, and that won't be your only issue against women. You'll also be against equal pay for equal work and many other issues that impact women.

    Rand Paul on equal pay for equal work:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1571789.html

    WASHINGTON -- Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) suggested Tuesday that a bill designed to bring women's pay up to the level of men's wages would have created some sort of paycheck Politburo.


    The Paycheck Fairness Act failed in the Senate on a strictly party line vote on Tuesday. Senate Democrats had argued that the measure was essential because women still receive only 77 cents for every dollar paid to men doing the same job.


    But Paul, a staunch libertarian, said passing a law that would have given judges more leeway to determine if a woman had been paid unfairly would be a step toward reviving the Soviet Union's notorious central governing body here. The United States' free market, he argued, works much better at setting wages at the appropriate level.
    Women are entitled to equal pay for equal work, they should be paid the same wage within range accounting for experience, education and tenure, as a man for doing the same job. When you're against the right of a girl or woman to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, you're against women in general, and that attitude will show itself in other issues that affect women. I personally can't think of anything more obnoxious or barbaric than trying to pass laws or regulations that result in forcing a girl or woman into childbirth against her will.

    Paul touts himself as a "staunch libertarian", when he isn't at all a "Libertarian". The Libertarian Platform is Pro-Choice as follows:

    1.5 Abortion Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

    https://www.lp.org/platform
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    Judy wrote:

    That's not what I claim. Please re-read the statement. My statement is women and the men who support them are the majority of American voters.
    That's exactly what you're claiming. News flash ...... the majority of women voters in America do not support late term abortion.

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    Libertarian Party on Abortion


    • Government should be kept out of the matter of abortion. (May 2008)
    • Abortion is a woman’s choice and does not concern the state. (Jul 2000)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
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    That's exactly what you're claiming. News flash ...... the majority of women voters in America do not support late term abortion.
    No, it isn't. What I'm telling you is THIS:

    Gender Gap in 2012 Vote Is Largest in Gallup's History

    Obama wins women's vote; Romney has eight-point edge among men

    by Jeffrey M. Jones

    PRINCETON, NJ -- President Barack Obama won the two-party vote among female voters in the 2012 election by 12 points, 56% to 44%, over Republican challenger Mitt Romney. Meanwhile, Romney won among men by an eight-point margin, 54% to 46%. That total 20-point gender gap is the largest Gallup has measured in a presidential election since it began compiling the vote by major subgroups in 1952.

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    http://www.gallup.com/poll/158588/gender-gap-2012-vote-largest-gallup-history.aspx
    Women are the majority of voters in the United States. Perhaps you didn't know that. Not only are we the majority but a great many men vote with us and for us. So we determine the outcome of US elections. That is the majority I'm talking about.

    Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee, and she will be a powerful candidate. She's spent her entire life standing up for women's rights, so what I'm saying is if a Republican candidate wants to win the White House, they need to avoid headlines with anti-abortion rhetoric. The Republican Party overall needs to adopt a different platform on abortion and go neutral on the issue.

    Rand Paul isn't just opposed to late term abortions, he's opposed to all abortions, he supports all "life" except the life that matters which is the life of a pregnant girl or woman who wants or needs to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. He doesn't even care if she's a victim of rape or incest.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/rand-...onnaire-2015-4
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Libertarian Party on Abortion


    • Government should be kept out of the matter of abortion. (May 200
    • Abortion is a woman’s choice and does not concern the state. (Jul 2000)

    Exactly. And the Libertarians have it right on this issue.
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