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    Leftist revisionist historians and their Political acolytes are constantly pushing this "We are the indigenous peoples" crap on the American public when in fact their Hunter Gatherer Ancestors migrated across the bering sea land bridge shortly after the Ice age from Asia, therefore they were indigenous to Asia not North America, so they have no historic claim. No Scientific record of people evolving on the N.American continent exist. Historic claims were enforced primarily by warfare, thats how nations were born. Americans of every ethnic background have proved their historic claim to their country in countless wars over and over again. America belongs to Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    Quote Originally Posted by agrneydgrl
    I wrote to the idiot that wrote this article. This is the answer I got from him.


    I guess we read different history books. You read the one's written by the slave masters and I read (and helped to write some) the ones written by the Indians and the African slaves. That's why our views are so different. It's interesting, all of the things that you said that Illegals do here (Our citizens are raped, stabbed, shot at and our children molested by these illegal invaders)...I agree with you 100%. See we aren't that different!

    The only difference is that I'm speaking of the real illegal immigrants..the ones that came on boats from Europe. You are right! Those illegals DID commit all of those awful crimes that you mentioned and did MUCH more than that. I don't recall our indigenous ancestors giving your people green cards. So who made YOU legal? As opposed to indigenous peoples from Mexico who migrate up north to their own historic homelands (and yes they cross a fictitious and illegally imposed border of death)?

    Can you really hate me for wanting to take back what your ancestors stole from mine? Nothing inside of you tells you that there is something wrong when your people live so well at the expense of my people (Indigenous) and of Africans who continue to live today in miserable conditons? You are okay with that?



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    Oh wow, thanks for the laugh, arnydgrl! He "helped" write books on Indians and African slaves? Didn't realize he was that old.

    Wonder what his "ancestors" did with the $15 MILLION the US PAID Mexico for that little piece of land. Maybe someone ought to tell him you can't "steal" what you PAID for?


    Hey Ron! "Nothing inside of you tells you that there is something wrong when you live so well at the expense of your people (Indigenous) and who continue to live today in miserable conditons IN MEXICO?!?!"

    Total clueless and racist idiot.

    Ya and how did Mexico come to be in control of that land in the first place. Wasnt it due to the invasion of this land by THEIR SPANISH ANCESTORS? When he says the land was stolen by European invaders ...he is right. But this includes HIS SPANISH ANCESTORS. Before his Spanish ancestors invaded the land...it belonged to American Indians...who btw also invaded the land. There is proof that others were here before the American Indian invaded the land. LOL...I bet he did help the REWRITE the history books. He would have to because that is the only way to cover up the SPANISH INVASION.
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    Amazing when you mention how Hernan Cortez wiped out the Aztec empire in 1521, their argument falls apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobelium
    If you want to use that theory, which I agree with because of the overwhelming evidence, it wasn't American Indians from Asia but rather a combination of French and Asian that created the "Native American". Discovery did great show about it a year or so back, good stuff.
    This is true and that was a great show. But since Ron hates Europeans so much, I figured he would want to go back to Asia. Also Native Americans have a high percentage of Asian DNA with a small percentage of European DNA. Funny thing though Ron has a European name! The guy is just a hateful idiot.
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    oh lookie, another "community organizer"

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    Here is a continuation of my converation with RON about socialism vs capitolism. I must write him back on this, however, I am not sure how to explain my point of view. Help anyone?

    Socialism of course...it's rising all over the world...and look at capitalism...it's days are counted...we have finally hit the point in human history where capitalism is going to die because it is not sustainable. Capitalism can only work if the masses of the people allow themselves to be owned and ruled by the ruling class and that right now is changing, and its changing FAST. the people's of the world are tired of being those at the bottom and they are rising up. They are taking back the resources that western europe and the US has been usurping from them for the past 500 years. This in turn will result in a capitalist system that will have to operate with MUCH fewer resources...and that will lead to its demise....just like the USSR did...it ran out of resources. No empire has lasted forever, and the US will be no different. This is natural. If you look at the main representatives of capitalism (US, Germany, Japan, England...etc) they are all in serious crisis. On the other hand, look at the countries that are forming the new socialist bloc (Russia, China, Venezuela...etc); they are growing faster everyday. When countries can use their OWN resources and not have them jacked from them, they can use them to better the lives of their citizens. This is exactly what is happening in Venezuela. The poor are now benefiting from the oil revenues that only a few rich enjoyed before. This socialism is benefitting the masses of the people there. That's why Chavez has mass support there and that's also why he is such a big threat to the US; he is taking back the resources that the US has historically taken from Venezuela. No they are getting them, but they are paying market prices for them...and that hurts the US econ.

    I can go on forever but I won't. The world is going socialist, whether Americans like it or not. No longer are the days when it was just the USSR and Cuba...today, the world is going in that direction and at the same time, capitalism is in SERIOUS crisis. And don't forget, what saved capitalism during the 1st great depression? Socialism! Social Security, all of the Social Programs that FDR came up with in his New Deal and 2nd New Deal...etc. What would you call those programs?? That was socialism! Those ideas came from Eugene Debbs...

    Ok this is toooo long. i have to go to work now, to teach the kids that are quickly becoming leaders in their communities. Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agrneydgrl

    Socialism of course...it's rising all over the world...and look at capitalism...it's days are counted...we have finally hit the point in human history where capitalism is going to die because it is not sustainable. Capitalism can only work if the masses of the people allow themselves to be owned and ruled by the ruling class and that right now is changing, and its changing FAST. the people's of the world are tired of being those at the bottom and they are rising up. They are taking back the resources that western europe and the US has been usurping from them for the past 500 years. This in turn will result in a capitalist system that will have to operate with MUCH fewer resources...and that will lead to its demise....just like the USSR did...it ran out of resources. No empire has lasted forever, and the US will be no different. This is natural. If you look at the main representatives of capitalism (US, Germany, Japan, England...etc) they are all in serious crisis. On the other hand, look at the countries that are forming the new socialist bloc (Russia, China, Venezuela...etc); they are growing faster everyday. When countries can use their OWN resources and not have them jacked from them, they can use them to better the lives of their citizens. This is exactly what is happening in Venezuela. The poor are now benefiting from the oil revenues that only a few rich enjoyed before. This socialism is benefitting the masses of the people there. That's why Chavez has mass support there and that's also why he is such a big threat to the US; he is taking back the resources that the US has historically taken from Venezuela. No they are getting them, but they are paying market prices for them...and that hurts the US econ.

    I can go on forever but I won't. The world is going socialist, whether Americans like it or not. No longer are the days when it was just the USSR and Cuba...today, the world is going in that direction and at the same time, capitalism is in SERIOUS crisis. And don't forget, what saved capitalism during the 1st great depression? Socialism! Social Security, all of the Social Programs that FDR came up with in his New Deal and 2nd New Deal...etc.
    Actually Social Security and other tax based programs EXTENDED the Great Depression, it would have been less severe without them. The only thing that helped end the Great Depression were the FDIC and WPA/CCC programs, and the WPA/CCC was ended by WWII.

    I never argue with these Communists, I just say: "I will pay for you to move to Cuba, all you have to do is renounce your US Citizenship. Give me your address so I can mail the renunciation forms". Haven't had one taker yet.
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    The guy is inconsistent to say the least. He has both so-called illegal alien white anscestors and empire building brown ones. He says capitalism is dead but as a teacher he lives off the taxes paid by the people who work in and for that very same system. He writes books or parts of them and no doubt he requires his students to buy a copy if they take his class. But he doesn't count the profit he makes off it as part of the capitalistic system he says he hates. No doubt he's trying to get grant money for his community organization either from the government or some rich liberal. But it's okay to suck money out of the economic system he claims is no good for the same community organization.

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    ABC's Upbeat Show About Border Patrol Stirs Controversy
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    ABC is putting the finishing touches on its controversial show, "Homeland Security USA." The new reality series will track U.S. border guards as they trying to stop people from sneaking into the country, sometimes with contraband.



    It is a show like "Cops," that focuses entirely on "one of the hottest of hot-button issues in the country." Early episodes show drug smugglers in Washington State and undocumented workers lost in the Arizona desert. Critics are labeling the show, which debuts Jan. 6, as propaganda.



    Executive producer Arnold Shapiro acknowledges the show will paint the Dept. of Homeland Security in a positive light. "I love investigative journalism, but that's not what we're doing. This show is heartening. It makes you feel good about these people who are doing their best to protect us," he says.



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    Sorry, LaRazaists, but YOUR outrageous attitude of "KILL the GRINGO!" must ALSO be BANNED if TRUE freedom of speech is to reign for EVERYONE!

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