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    Report: Steve Bannon urged Trump to preserve Obama’s executive amnesty for DREAMers

    Report: Steve Bannon urged Trump to preserve Obama’s executive amnesty for DREAMers

    POSTED AT 6:41 PM ON MARCH 9, 2017 BY ALLAHPUNDIT


    Hard to believe at first blush. Steve Bannon, nationalist and publisher of Breitbart, wants to legalize a class of illegals encompassing hundreds of thousands of people? But this at least would solve the lingering mystery of why Trump hasn’t rescinded DACA yet after making stronger borders the centerpiece of his campaign. I can’t buy that someone like Reince Priebus or even Mike Pence could convince Trump to step back on DACA given how many border hawks are in orbit around him — Jeff Sessions, Stephen Miller, and of course Bannon. If those three pushed him to send a message about enforcement by dumping Obama’s amnesty, surely they’d prevail.

    But what if it wasn’t all three of them who were pushing him? What if the most powerful of the three, Bannon, was actually urging Trump to duck a fight on this topic?

    [T]wo administration sources pointed to chief strategist Steve Bannon as the man who preserved the current iteration of DACA, the victor of a debate with Attorney General Jeff Sessions and senior policy adviser Stephen Miller, who favored curtailing the program.
    “Bannon usually wins most battles,” an administration insider said…


    “Trump was never in favor of repealing DACA,” said a source close to the president, who also said that keeping the program is in line with the immigration stance of Bannon, whose counsel Trump closely heeds. Bannon’s economic nationalist view is very much rooted in culture, and so eliminating DACA wouldn’t be a priority for him because “these kids have been here and they’re going to schools here,” the source said. “They’re Americans. They understand the culture.”


    Eh, I don’t know. That logic is a slippery slope. Does a 40-year-old who came here illegally when he was 20 and then went to work, with no criminal trouble, “understand the culture” any less than a 21-year-old who was brought here illegally when he was one? The difference is that the latter knows only American culture whereas the former knows Mexican culture too, but so what? Someone who’s been here 20 years and raised a family probably has no intention of returning to Mexico. During his brief “softening” phase on immigration last August, Trump himself used an example just like mine to suggest that maybe he was open to amnesty after all — and not just for DREAMers: “So you have somebody who’s been in the country for 20 years, has done a great job, and everything else. Do we take him and the family and her and him or whatever and send him out?” And to the extent this is about jobs rather than about culture, arguably there’s a stronger case for deporting the 23-year-old than the 40-year-old. The 40-year-old may have built a business whose economic value can’t be easily replaced if it’s uprooted; the 21-year-old may not have even entered the work force yet. No one really thinks like that, of course: It would seem cruel to deport someone to a country they’ve never known to punish them for an act of illegal border-crossing over which they had no control, a problem you don’t run into with the 40-year-old. But “understanding the culture” doesn’t explain all of this.

    I think Bannon probably supports DACA less for nationalist reasons and more for strategic ones. In fact, BuzzFeed admits as much: “Bannon views DACA, which tends to be viewed more favorably than many immigration policies, as a strategic asset in the coming immigration policy battles, a source familiar with his thinking said.” An Axios reporter heard the same thing:


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    Can confirm Bannon has told ppl he views DACA as a negotiation chip & believes only folks that don't get the immigration problem focus on it https://twitter.com/tparti/status/839847326122377216 …
    9:40 AM - 9 Mar 2017

    Keeping DACA in place gives Trump political cover to tighten enforcement in other areas. The left desperately wants to convince people that his immigration policy is gratuitously punitive and racist; meanwhile, in nearly every interview he gives on the subject, he makes a point of saying we need to have a “big heart” towards DREAMers. It’s harder for Democrats to sell him as a hater when he keeps winking publicly at amnesty for the most sympathetic group of illegals. And of course, as I’ve said before, DACA’s a nice bargaining chip for Ryan and McConnell to use in trying to swing a deal with Schumer. Trump and Bannon want more robust immigration enforcement so they’re dangling a limited amnesty — legalization for DREAMers — at liberals in exchange. If Schumer refuses, okay, but then it’s Democrats who killed the “DREAM” this time, not Republicans.

    Here’s a quickie highlight reel of Trump’s famous speech on immigration last August. At 2:55 he vows to undo Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties, DACA and DAPA, “in which he defied federal law and the Constitution.” When was the last time a president kept an EO intact which he’s on record as believing is unconstitutional?



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    I don't know if this report about Steve Bannon is true and I don't know Steve Bannon. But, if he is the main guy behind Breitbart one would think he had enough sense to know that the DACA / Dream Act Amnesty recipients are the political wedge designed to force full amnesty and open borders forevermore for America.

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    This is a shocker for me. I never imagined Steve Bannon was behind Trump breaking his promise. Hmm, and all this time I've been blaming Reince Priebus.
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    Trump will make up his own mind. Nice to know though that the delay isn't his initiative but advisors, and I do think he wants to take his time on it now for some reason. We need to keep the pressure on to cancel DACA. If all Trump does this first term is end illegal immigration once and for all which means deporting all illegal aliens and their minor children regardless of where they were born, gets the tax reform plan through to bring our jobs back, repeals McCarran Ferguson Act of 1945 and establishes a new and improved relationship with Russia, this term will be a huge historic success.

    In reality, the Obamacare mess is just that, a mess over a few people. So lets keep the pressure on the immigration issue, let it be known this is a no-go deal-breaker. All illegal aliens have to go, no exceptions, no mercy. That means cancel DACA now. Get them out of this program by terminating it.
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    Say what you will but I believe Trump can be manipulated and easily influenced. Honestly, I don't think he's concrete hard or rock firm on most issues. Furthermore, let's not forget, in his own words, "everything is negotiable." His many inconsistencies over the last year or so prove this to be factual. For example, look at what he's done on DACA. Not only did he not end DACA immediately as promised, he will end up setting the DACA group on an eventual path to citizenship. Yes, I'm speculating, but I'd say the evidence to prove what I'm saying is stacking up pretty quickly.

    As some in the media have reported frequently, Trump is not guided by ideology, but pragmatism. That can be dangerous for us because being pragmatic leaves him more susceptible to suggestion, manipulation, and influence. Whereas on the issue of illegal immigration, immigration, and border security, we're guided more by ideology, which means we're much less influenced by outside sources, i.e., special interest groups, corporations, economics, friends, etc.
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    bannon is at an incompetency level in his present job - why trump choose him and at times mouths his asinine words, I do not understand.

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    Steve Bannon Helped Preserve DACA But Democrats And Activists Aren’t Celebrating

    They’re bracing for what’s coming: millions of deportations and further crackdowns on both legal and illegal immigration.

    posted on Mar. 9, 2017, at 6:24 a.m.
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    WASHINGTON — The Trump administration doesn’t want to talk about it.

    When asked about the Obama-era program that allowed undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States as children to remain in the country and work, press secretary Sean Spicer has repeatedly demurred. Instead, he’s talked about the administration’s enforcement priorities. When deputy press secretary Sarah Sanders is asked about Donald Trump’s private remarks that these so-called DREAMers shouldn’t worry about deportation, she says she doesn’t want to get ahead of the president.

    Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA — which Trump said he would rescind on day one — is rough political terrain for the White House. Conservative media and elected officials see it as a rare hardline immigration promise the administration hasn’t kept, and the White House is kicking it down the road for as long as officials can.

    But according to two sources who regularly speak with the Trump administration, DACA is a settled issue.

    And in recent conversations, two administration sources pointed to chief strategist Steve Bannon as the man who preserved the current iteration of DACA, the victor of a debate with Attorney General Jeff Sessions and senior policy adviser Stephen Miller, who favored curtailing the program.

    “Bannon usually wins most battles,” an administration insider said.

    Previous reports have cast Bannon on one end of the spectrum on rescinding DACA and a more moderate group led by chief of staff Reince Priebus that wanted to keep it, but BuzzFeed News has learned that Bannon views DACA, which tends to be viewed more favorably than many immigration policies, as a strategic asset in the coming immigration policy battles, a source familiar with his thinking said.

    “Trump was never in favor of repealing DACA,” said a source close to the president, who also said that keeping the program is in line with the immigration stance of Bannon, whose counsel Trump closely heeds. Bannon’s economic nationalist view is very much rooted in culture, and so eliminating DACA wouldn’t be a priority for him because “these kids have been here and they’re going to schools here,” the source said. “They’re Americans. They understand the culture.”

    Last month at CPAC, for instance, Bannon said the “center core of what we believe” is that “we’re a nation with an economy — not an economy just in some global marketplace with open border — that we’re a nation with a culture and a reason for being, and I think that’s what unites us and I think that’s what’s going to unite this movement.”

    But the disagreement on DACA doesn’t mean that Bannon, Sessions, and Miller don’t agree on other parts of immigration policy.

    In fact, they are all said to view sharply increasing enforcement and deporting millions as paramount to satisfying their base and fulfilling campaign promises to get illegal immigration under control. Sources who speak to administration officials said staggering deportation numbers have been floated: One said they’d heard 2 million in the first year, and another Republican said 4 million by the 2018 midterm election.

    (Obama deported a record 3 million in his eight years as president and was protested as the deporter-in-chief by activists on the left.)
    The Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly, a man not viewed as a hardliner, said on CNN that he was considering separating parents who cross the border from their children. Even Republicans call it what the left has been screaming that it is, attrition through enforcement — a deterrence effort to stop immigrants from considering the trek into the United States because of how hard their lives could be.

    “They’re upping the ante by saying families are going to be separated — that’s a scare tactic,” said the Republican who heard the goal of 4 million deportations by the end of next year. “They figure the shiver running through the community may be enough to keep some families from crossing. It’s rather effective.”

    “It looks like they’re going after everybody except a sliver of immigrants, and that’s the DACA recipients without even minor offenses traffic tickets or anything else,” said Democratic Rep. Joaquin Castro, who noted that nonetheless, some DREAMers have been sitting in detention after Trump’s enforcement crackdown. “Whether that amounts to removing 9 or 10 million people, it’s an incredible amount of people. They’re going to tear families apart and create fear in communities that’s going to hurt the economies of a lot of American cities.”

    A Trump official told BuzzFeed News that the administration isn’t necessarily shooting for specific numbers of deportations but said that in the past, children have been used by immigrants to illegally cross the border.

    “We’re trying to discourage that,” the administration official said. “It may seem like a harsh policy, but the issue we’re attempting to address is to reduce the exposure that children have because they’re getting used.”

    Marielena Hincapie, executive director of the National Immigration Law Center (NILC), which filed a lawsuit in support of Daniela Vargas, the DREAMer from Mississippi who was detained after speaking out at a protest last week and whose DACA status had expired, said the administration is engaged in “shock and awe” tactics on immigration.

    She said even with its record figure, the Obama administration never deported more than 450,000 immigrants in a given year and Trump will find it difficult to go much beyond those numbers without decreasing due process and growing the use of efforts like “Operation Streamline,” a form of fast-tracked sentencing that allows one judge to rule on many defendants at one time.

    The Mississippi case, as well as one in Seattle concerning another DACA recipient, has raised the issue early of just how the Trump administration will handle the Obama-era program, which was never codified into law.

    There is also encroaching fear by organizations that are bracing for the administration to begin going after immigrants in the country legally and illegally who use public assistance programs, which was floated in a draft executive order leaked to the Washington Post and Vox.

    Still, Republicans inside and outside the administration contend that immigration legislation could be Trump’s “Nixon in China” moment — a policy area where his credibility on the issue among his base allows him to push for some sort of immigration compromise, as he again floated to national news anchors last week.

    “The president indicated that he’s open to compromise,” said Trump’s friend Christopher Ruddy, CEO of the conservative Newsmax Media, who routinely meets with him in Washington and at his private club Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach. “The position would be a smart thing politically and a smart thing for the country.”

    Others contend Bannon is shrewd, and his willingness to wade into the policy issue might even be a sign that he has been caricatured inaccurately.

    “I worked with Karl Rove and there were things said of him that weren’t true,” said Daniel Garza, executive director of the Koch brothers–funded LIBRE Initiative who is encouraged by the administration’s restraint on DACA. “It didn’t fit the caricature of what he was seen like, and it could be the same thing with Bannon. Rove got blamed for things he didn’t do and he didn’t get credit for certain things he did do.”

    Mario Rodriguez, chair of the Hispanic 100, who threw a glitzy inaugural event for Trump in January, said he has met with Trump and Bannon in Trump Tower and that the enigmatic chief strategist is getting a raw deal. “Just like the president, give them a chance to do their job,” he said.

    But activists wave away the prospect of immigration compromise if it means breaking the will of immigrant communities on the way to a bad deal.

    “Come 2018, compromise on immigration is going to be hard after so much pain has been instilled in these communities,” Hincapie said.

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    We did not elect bannon as president - get rid of him - let him use his debate skills as an editor and stop wasting Sessions, Millers & our time in trying to accomplish goals that were promised to voters - just like he espouses if endangered species can't be eaten for dinner, GONE and women should be punished for abortions, now he thinks DACA should be treated with heart OVER AND ABOVE OUR LOST CITIZENS AND THEIR FAMILIES - WHAT! - get rid of him! He is an irreverent coo-coo bird that should not be given powers other than to select stories for publishing. Editor of breitbart fine, chief advisor to our POTUS - NO THANKS!
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    Yeah, Trump just needs to be Trump and tell all these phonies, get with the program or go. Steve Bannon didn't get you elected. We did. Know your customer, number one rule of business.
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    “Trump was never in favor of repealing DACA,” said a source close to the president, who also said that keeping the program is in line with the immigration stance of Bannon, whose counsel Trump closely heeds.
    Not a pretty picture for our President if this is true because it would mean he purposely deceived us to make himself more electable. Should I find out this is true, I will be extremely disappointed ....... well, no, I'll be disgusted!
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