Thread: Congregating May Get Gang Members Arrested

This might work on illegals. Try it in your town.

UB

Congregating May Get Gang Members Arrested
West Palm Beach Police Attempt To Crack Down On Gang Violence

POSTED: 10:31 am EST February 6, 2007
UPDATED: 1:37 pm EST February 6, 2007


WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- West Palm Beach police want to fight gangs not just by arresting them, but also by taking them to civil court.

The plan by the police department is to identify gang members and the locations where they congregate, then to persuade a judge to issue an injunction blocking them from being together.

If two or more of the gang members are then gathered at the prohibited place, authorities can arrest them. However, accused gang members could fight the injunction in court.

"Now, when we have these people hanging on a street corner, we're really helpless to do anything about it," unless authorities witness a crime, West Palm Beach Police Chief Delsa Bush told The Palm Beach Post.

"We're really trying to think outside the box," Bush said.

City commissioners approved the first reading of the anti-gang ordinance on Monday. A final reading is scheduled Feb. 26.

Police suspect that four of 19 homicides in the city last year were gang-related.

"We're trying to stay ahead of the gangs. We're the first city in Florida to use this," said Police Capt. Daniel Sargent, commander of the criminal investigations unit.

The cities of Los Angeles and San Antonio and El Paso, Texas, have used similar injunctions.

"If this works, and we expect it will, it will be a model for other cities around the state," Mayor Lois Frankel said.

http://www.local6.com/news/10942879/detail.html

Originally Posted by UB

This might work on illegals. Try it in your town.

UB

Congregating May Get Gang Members Arrested
West Palm Beach Police Attempt To Crack Down On Gang Violence

POSTED: 10:31 am EST February 6, 2007
UPDATED: 1:37 pm EST February 6, 2007


WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- West Palm Beach police want to fight gangs not just by arresting them, but also by taking them to civil court.

The plan by the police department is to identify gang members and the locations where they congregate, then to persuade a judge to issue an injunction blocking them from being together.

If two or more of the gang members are then gathered at the prohibited place, authorities can arrest them. However, accused gang members could fight the injunction in court.

"Now, when we have these people hanging on a street corner, we're really helpless to do anything about it," unless authorities witness a crime, West Palm Beach Police Chief Delsa Bush told The Palm Beach Post.

"We're really trying to think outside the box," Bush said.

City commissioners approved the first reading of the anti-gang ordinance on Monday. A final reading is scheduled Feb. 26.

Police suspect that four of 19 homicides in the city last year were gang-related.

"We're trying to stay ahead of the gangs. We're the first city in Florida to use this," said Police Capt. Daniel Sargent, commander of the criminal investigations unit.

The cities of Los Angeles and San Antonio and El Paso, Texas, have used similar injunctions.

"If this works, and we expect it will, it will be a model for other cities around the state," Mayor Lois Frankel said.

http://www.local6.com/news/10942879/detail.html

What does an illegal alien look like? It might run afoul of civil rights. Where gang members are known to be gang members by local law enforcement or can be identified as gang members, the same cannot be said for illegal aliens. Police officers are trained to identify gang members, most do not have the authority/training at this time to identify illegal aliens.

An illegal alien has a scared look on his face, when someone ask him for identification.

I really don't care for those kinds of questions. If you travel abroad, many locals can spot an American a mile away just by their behavior, clothing, body language... I can tell the difference between a "new arrival" over someone that has been in this country since 1986.

Dixie

Originally Posted by Dixie

An illegal alien has a scared look on his face, when someone ask him for identification.
Dixie

Well that sounds like it will withstand the scrutiny of the legal system.
Attorney:" Officer, how did you know the individual was an illegal alien?"
Officer: " He looked scared when I asked for his id."
Judge: "Get the hell out of my courtroom!"

Originally Posted by Gabriel

Originally Posted by Dixie

An illegal alien has a scared look on his face, when someone ask him for identification.
Dixie

Well that sounds like it will withstand the scrutiny of the legal system.
Attorney:" Officer, how did you know the individual was an illegal alien?"
Officer: " He looked scared when I asked for his id."
Judge: "Get the hell out of my courtroom!"

You're just being silly Gabriel. Our society does place value on the ability of trained professionals to read the demeanor of individuals. A teacher, an expert in children, might develop a sense that something is amiss in a childs life, that there may be abuse. Would the court be disinterested in the teacher's opinion. I think not. Trained police officer's opinion is no less valuable and would not be offered in the manner you portrayed.

What does an illegal alien look like? It might run afoul of civil rights. Where gang members are known to be gang members by local law enforcement or can be identified as gang members, the same cannot be said for illegal aliens. Police officers are trained to identify gang members, most do not have the authority/training at this time to identify illegal aliens.

GABRIEL
that's an interesting post by you up there.

Where in that article was ILLEGAL ALIEN mentioned? Perhaps I missed it?
If I did, I apologize.

However, you're doing nothing more than being foolish.
You're now officially a bore

Gabby,

It ain't hard to find the illegal aliens. They are not in the shadows. They are using my money at the hospital, hanging out at the day labor center and they are in that grocery store where nobody speaks English.

Garsh! This ain't rocket science. There are places around town if you walked in and yelled La Migra the place would empty.

Dixie