Thread: Say Goodbye to the Republican Party

The Republicans screwed up themselves and have no one to blame. They need to look in the mirror. I truly miss Ronald Reagan and Newt's Contract With America. But Obama is even worse.

Illiois is already a One-Party State (dem) so if the rest of the country ends up the same, the majority of Americans will have to find other ways of regaining control of our government.

Illinois may have a possiblility for a Republican Governor next year. His name is Adam Andrzejewski. He spoke at the teaparty I attended, in Joliet, if what he says is true I'm going to vote for him. I have been a long time Democrate, Please forgive me and don't hold that against me.
But you might say Iv'e seen the light. You can check him out at www.AdamforIllinois.com

At least we may have hope.

In my opinion we can blame george w. and company on the take over of our government by the socialist democrats.

He did what ever he wanted and all of his little tin soldier republican army followed him right off the cliff.

So yes I do blame him for most of what is going on right now.We will still be paying for his blunders for years to come.

So lets give the man his due credit for setting us up for this.

Thanks george w. thank you for the demise of America as we have known it for the last 100 years or so.

ELE, I think what you have said, is EXACTLY what needs to happen. This nation prospered the most, when ALL of us at least acknowledged God as our maker (although some did not adhere to that in their lives, they still acknowledged Him).

Now we have taken God out of almost all and, so He has left us to ourselves, and look where we are.

As for the Republicans, they have lost their way completely, but then again, after the Tea Party, and talking with some old school Dems, they felt the Dems have also.

We do need a third party and need to stop being led, instead we need to lead. When we start leading our government, in the way WE THE PEOPLE want, they will have no choice but to follow, or lose their jobs (there is always someone better we can vote in).

When, and if, we can get back to out Judeo-Christian values in this nation (I did not vote for Bush due to his claims, but thinking he had what it took), so long as it is not too late, we will start to do better, but till then, we will languish and wallow in this political cesspool we have voted ourselves (or maybe others have voted this one in) into.

Allow God back into our nation, our schools and mainly our hearts, and we will see a great change.

BTW, 2000, we had the choice between Bush and Al Gore....even with all the troubles, we still got the better deal.

2004, not sure, Kerry, I did not like, and unsure of his leanings, and still think Bush may have yet been the better, but still not the best of the two.

They say "hindsight is 20/20", and if many people could have seen ahead, the many things, would they have changed their votes? Not sure, but also, you all need to look into the financial troubles we are in right now, actually go further back than Bush, to the Clinton admin....(forcing mortgage lenders to give loans to otherwise ineligible borrowers).

Originally Posted by dman1200

Originally Posted by littleirishgirl

Closing the mexico borders is a bit extreme, this swine flu is not some giant epidemic like the media is trying to make it into, this is just the whole Sars hype all over again. Now, the borders need to be regulated and better handled, and patrolled but closing them is not an option. There are people in mexico that are coming here legally and there are Americans going to mexico, if they closed the border alot of those people would have a hard time going back home when their travels are done. Not everyone in mexico comes here illegally and wants to stay here illegally, I know some fine mexicans who are happy living right there in their country and only come here for vacation and go back home. I think the border needs to be surveillanced and stricter regulations should be put into effect, and I think properly screening everyone going to and from mexico is a better solution then just shutting down and closing the borders, that wouldnt solve anything. Even though Sars was going around, we never stopped trading and bussiness trips with china, come on you guys, dont let things get bigger then they are.

BS, we wouldn't have the problems we have in this country right now if our borders were closed and our laws were enforced. What good is more laws and regulations going to do if we don't enforce them? Americans traveling to Mexico wouldn't have a problem getting back into the country if the borders were closed, that's nonsense. That is what a passport is for. I'm so sick of people putting commerce ahead of the security of this nation. How many more people have to die before we realize that open borders just isn't a good idea?

FYI you totally misread my post. Closing the borders means not accepting people with passports or not through the border..Enforcing laws and having stricter regulations and border patrol means letting the people through the border that have a right to go through the border. I am not an open borders advocate, you need to step off the pedistool of thinking everyone who disagrees with irrashional border security measures has some kind of open border agenda, that simply isnt true. I don't think you quite understand what "closing the borders" means. Technically, our borders have always been closed, the laws that keep it closed just havent been enforced. The way you make it sound, you come off as saying that it is okay to shut the doors to EVERYONE and not let anyone through Mexico, regardless if they have a legal status, or are Americans on vacation. I think you need to stop generalizing Mexico and attacking people who want things done in a way that is going to be good for both Americans and LEGAL foreign traveller's alike. No country in the world, by your standards has "closed borders", the difference is the rules and regulations they set in place are being enforced, and America has been ignoring that for too long and our government needs to take some examples and step up to the plate of civilian protection, without creating problems. Closing the borders means not allowing anyone in or out of the border period. You are actually coming off as somewhat racist, by the way you say "Americans with passports would have no problem coming back in, thats nonsense" well what about Mexicans with passports? What about Canadians with passports? If the border was completely "closed" and shut down as you put it, nobody, regardless of having a passport or not would be allowed through. They only "close" borders like that in times of extreme emergency or war. Please think next time, before typing and attacking people who you accuse of open border agenda when it is the opposite. You also can't blame all the problems in America on borders. Alot of American citizens cause problems too, it isnt just illegals. Canada gets alot of chinese refugee's and they dont blame them for the problems Canada might have. You generalize mexico and this is exactly the reason is hard for me to put up with anti illegal immigration people online, because I run into too many who are passionate about Mexico, when illegals come from ALL OVER. Yes, illegals from other places are not as big a problem as the ones coming from Mexico, you talk about closing and enforcing the MEXICAN borders, what about our ports? We need law enforcement on our docks checking boats for asians and europeans too you know.

Oh PLEASE America may should close down the border to show it can be a CHANGE

You dont know how many of those 12 million + illegals are Mexican. Obviously there is alot here, but dont be stupid. Closing the borders wont do anything, the borders have NEVER been closed, why dont you guys understand that we need our laws and regulations enforced? What the hell is closing the borders going to do for us in the long term? What is the WIN out of closing the borders? NOTHING. They will still find ways inside this country. The fact is, we need our laws enforced, thats IT. If the government would just do THAT, it would be good enough. One of the things I hate SO much about people on the American side of the illegal immigration debate, is all the hatred and generalizing of Mexico. You dont need to shove it down everyone's throat that Mexico is the worst perpetrator here, we already know that. But you, for a fact, don't know how many out of the millions of illegals are Mexican, hell what about the phillipinos hmm? And the europeans? And the chinese? Do you think they all come in through the Mexican Border? When you guys talk about closing down "The border" you are only talking about the Mexican border, and thats why so many people see us as racist, because a few out of us for the legal immigration PAC are too generalized when it comes to illegals, and immediatley point the finger at the Mexicans, and the Mexican border. Illegal aliens come from ALL OVER. The other ethnicities are just hidden away and not so openly public as the Mexicans because unlike the Mexicans its not as simple as just hopping a fence to get back in. Amnesty is not an answer, Closing the borders is also not an answer. The only answer is enforcing the LAW and keeping it that way, and not letting people who come into America illegally, from ANYWHERE, get away with it and walk all over us like door mats and cost the tax payers. I see too many closed minds on this forum, and some of you that are not hispanic at all have said some borderline predjudice things, that even I think are a bit too much. You need to put your anger aside, and think about the bigger picture at hand. Do you want people to see nothing but anger and frusterationn and racism when they come here, or do you want people to see a clear headed discussion board about illegal immigration and politics? I'm just saying, its not good to keep generalizing Mexico, its the reason why the illegal mexicans point the racism finger [ that and most of them dont know what theyre talking about.] we need to speak with a more varied protest here. All I ever see are posts on the forums about Mexico, Mexico this, Mexico that. What about the communities full of illegal vietnamese people that HIRE the illegal mexicans, where BOTH of them live scummy, disrespect our laws and citizens, and walk around with bad attitudes and gangbang? It's easy to point the finger at the bigger problem, but that just makes YOU look as ignorant as they are. Point I'm getting at is, even though Mexicans are the biggest problem when it comes to illegal immigration, there are OTHER parts of America besides the Mexican border where illegal aliens come in by the thousands each month, it may not be as much a problem as mexico is, but that doesnt mean we just all point the fingers at Mexico and not agree to keep our other ports and borders safe. I dont know why I have to repeat myself about the borders being already "closed" per se. Our borders never were open, we've always have laws agaisnt illegal immigration. We STILL dont have open borders, because open borders would be like having no laws or absolutely no enforcement, and thats just not true. We just have very crappy enforcement at the moment, and very crappy government not enforcing those laws that keep our borders closed. So chill out, and dont be so caught up in the Mexicans all of the time. Thinking too much into that kind of stuff wrecks people. Fight for a good cause, but have a clear head about it.

Don't you know that most nail salons hire illegal asians, without even a license to be doing people's nails? You would be shocked to know that all those vietnamese girls that sit there doing yours or your wifes nails are working under ONE persons license, and HELLO, they cram their language down peoples throats just as much as the Mexicans do. And you dont think asians dont smuggle drugs either? Think again. I dont agree with any side here, I'm not saying that Mexicans are any better, or any less to be blamed for. I'm just trying to say, quit pointing the finger in one direction. Today its Mexico, but what about tomarrow? I'll bet every non Mexican illegal alien is loving all this attention put on Mexico, makes it easier for them to sneak in unnoticed. I see just as many illegal asians as I see illegal Mexicans, illegal immigration is a HUGE problem, and its not just the Mexicans fault. The only reason we see them more is because they are more arrogant and demanding. It doesnt mean there is not others to worry about. Infact, everyday here in denver I see more and more asians pushing the mexicans out, now I dont see as many mexicans working at mcdonalds, ect. I see vietnamese people. It's ironic really.

Why can't some people understand the abusive behaviors of many that "WE THE PEOPLE" are sick of?

NO MORE TRUST IN GOVERNMENT, EMPLOYERS, OR ILLEGAL THIEVES.

Some people haven't viewed the damages done to Millions of other Americans. All I can say your day will come if immigration is not stopped for a while.

Why can't 1/3 of immigrants (both legal and illegal) be deported? Then we could start a talk about keeping the flood gate open constantly.

EXTREME MEASURES WILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN TO DEAL WITH CROOKS AND THE GREEDY

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