Schumer offers 35 year-old trick_ open government and then we’ll talk border control

See: Dem Response: End Shutdown, Then Negotiate Border Security


”Schumer called for Trump to sign bipartisan legislation that would reopen the government and withhold funding for a border barrier so that the debate can be continued when the entire government is back to work and getting paid.”


Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer really think the American People are stupid and don’t recall the dirty trick the Democrat Party Leadership played on them 35 years ago when, in 1985, the Republican Party Leadership reluctantly agreed to granting amnesty to 2.5 million illegal entrants in return for a guarantee to build a wall, secure our border and discourage illegal immigration.

And here we are today, almost 35 years later, and still no adequate protection to stop illegal border crossings; no legislation passed to discourage illegal immigration, or visa overstays; no merit based standards set for immigration to benefit the United States; and no legislation passed to criminally punish public office holders forming sanctuary cities which violate federal “harboring” laws.

But we do have an additional 10-15 million new illegal entrants in the country, and the devastating social and economic impact of illegal immigration, which is suffered by American citizens and destroying their local communities, and bankrupting their schools and emergency rooms! And Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi want the American People to once again grab their ankles, give up their political leverage, and capitulate as they did in 1985?

Hey Nancy Botox Pelosi and Lying Chuck Schumer . . . rub your dirty trick on your chest, the American People are not as stupid as you think.

JWK



American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.

And do not listen to Lindsay Grahamnesty. He wants a deal for DACA and for 400,000 TPS that have OVERSTAYED their "Temporary" status. No more extensions of TPS and no path to stay.

We want them all deported.

NO AMNESTY #8

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And do not listen to Lindsay Grahamnesty. He wants a deal for DACA and for 400,000 TPS that have OVERSTAYED their "Temporary" status. No more extensions of TPS and no path to stay.

We want them all deported.

NO AMNESTY #8

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The question is, will Republicans stand tough and back the president and resist the Democrat Party Leadership's 35 year old trick?


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JWK

There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and then conquer a prosperous and freedom loving people than by allowing and encouraging the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, criminal and diseased populations of other countries to invade that country, and make the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such invaders.

It has always worked for them before. Let's hope it doesn't this time..

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It has always worked for them before. Let's hope it doesn't this time..

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Let's hope President Trump holds the fort! The very fabric of our country hangs in the balance.

JWK

There is no surer way to weaken, subdue and then conquer a prosperous and freedom loving people than by allowing and encouraging the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, criminal and diseased populations of other countries to invade that country, and make the country’s existing citizens tax-slaves to support the economic needs of such invaders.

I don't know if he'll hold the fort, but he's going to build the wall, one way or another.

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And do not listen to Lindsay Grahamnesty. He wants a deal for DACA and for 400,000 TPS that have OVERSTAYED their "Temporary" status. No more extensions of TPS and no path to stay.

We want them all deported.

NO AMNESTY #8

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With McCain gone and Flake leaving, Sen. Graham is probably the top amnesty supporting Republican in the U.S. Senate. He's been pushing for a DACA amnesty for years. Additionally, he was part of the "gang of eight" amnesty crowd that tried to shove a comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty) bill down our throats. I don't think Graham has ever seen an illegal alien amnesty plan or bill he didn't like.

Each time I hear about Graham having lunch, playing golf or having a closed door meeting with Trump, my anxiety kicks into high gear. The knowledge of Trump's flip on the DACA program and ease to which he can be manipulated doesn't help matters any.

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With McCain gone and Flake leaving, Sen. Graham is probably the top amnesty supporting Republican in the U.S. Senate. He's been pushing for a DACA amnesty for years. Additionally, he was part of the "gang of eight" amnesty crowd that tried to shove a comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty) bill down our throats. I don't think Graham has ever seen an illegal alien amnesty plan or bill he didn't like.

Each time I hear about Graham having lunch, playing golf or having a closed door meeting with Trump, my anxiety kicks into high gear. The knowledge of Trump's flip on the DACA program and ease to which he can be manipulated doesn't help matters any.

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Let's hope President Trump does not cave in. Public opinion is now turning in his favor and against the Democrat Party Leadership's obstruction!


JWK

Illegal immigration is now costing American citizens over $18 billion a year in healthcare costs alone! Far more than the measly $5.7 billion asked for to build a wall! LINK

PRESIDENT TRUMP...NO MORE BEDS...NO MEDICAL CARE!

PROCESS AND DEPORT WITHIN 48 HOURS AND THEIR UAC'S!

STOP THIS INVASION...STOP THE CARAVANS OF THOUSANDS OF FOREIGNERS WHO HAVE NO RIGHT TO COME HERE!

NO MORE TURNING THEMSELVES IN...CATCH AND DEPORT THEM ON THE SPOT!

It was on the news this morning that Lindsay was off on his own tangent about DACA and his old 2013 amnesty bill. Trump spoke with Lindsay and told him no way, he's waiting for US Supreme Court on DACA before doing or considering anything on that. Lindsay then pivoted to support the emergency declaration which is important, because he's Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Grassley who is on the committee sent out a statement that he's nervous about it, and encouraged Trump not to use it. Trump is going to use it, he decided that back in December when the CR came down with no real funding for the wall and tweeted on Dec 19, "military will build the wall." He's been working on this for a long time.

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NO LINDSAY GRAHAMNESTY!

NO JARED AND IVANKA AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!

NO DACA

NO PATH TO STAY

NO GREEN CARDS

NO PERMANENT RESIDENCE...GO HOME PERMANENTLY AND KEEP OUT!

NO TPS … SET A WEEKLY QUOTA AND DEPORT THEM! WE HAVE OUR OWN NATURAL DISASTERS AND HOMELESS PEOPLE!

SEND THEM ALL BACK...INCLUDING THESE REFUGEES WHO HAVE TAKEN OVER OUR CITIES!

Trump has already shut all that down. This was just Congresscritters trying in their inept way to make a deal of some sort. Trump got wind and shut it all down. I don't think we'll be hearing any more about deals that involve DACA, Dreamers or Amnesty, at least not in relation to the wall. Trump is going with a clean plan, on a clean action, with clean money, to build a clean wall, with no dirty deals, compromises, hitches, or corruption.

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Trump has already shut all that down. This was just Congresscritters trying in their inept way to make a deal of some sort. Trump got wind and shut it all down. I don't think we'll be hearing any more about deals that involve DACA, Dreamers or Amnesty, at least not in relation to the wall. Trump is going with a clean plan, on a clean action, with clean money, to build a clean wall, with no dirty deals, compromises, hitches, or corruption.

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"Trump got wind and shut it all down." :lol:

You can be very funny sometimes. This isn't about Trump getting wind of anything, Pelosi is not going to give Trump the money, not now, not later, not ever. If they offered Trump $25 billion today for a DACA and TPS amnesty, I think he would take it. However, we know that isn't an offer that is going to come.

No, he won't do a DACA for a wall deal. He'll do a DACA for his 70 point legislative agenda plus the wall deal. But too late for that, DemoQuacks will never give him his 70 point plan, so he's going to have military build the wall.

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No, he won't do a DACA for a wall deal. He'll do a DACA for his 70 point legislative agenda plus the wall deal. But too late for that, DemoQuacks will never give him his 70 point plan, so he's going to have military build the wall.

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I have to disagree. I think he would support a DACA amnesty if he were offered the full $25 billion necessary for his wall, fence, chicken coup or whatever they're calling it these days.

As for military involvement in the building of a whatever, that still hasn't played out yet.

I've heard him say it 3 times, he's not doing anything on DACA until after the US Supreme Court makes a ruling. He doesn't need $25 billion for the wall any more. That $25 billion had a bunch of stuff that wasn't just wall construction, it had other stuff in it too, it was also over a 10 year period, most people didn't realize that. Trump just wants to get the barrier itself up for now. He's already done 100 miles and has funding for the 115 miles that will start construction later this month. The $5.6 billion is two years worth of projects so he doesn't have to go through this again with these stupid DemoQuacks next year.

Trump's got this. So I hope after the big round table meeting this afternoon, there's a big announcement and this whole ordeal is over.

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I've heard him say it 3 times, he's not doing anything on DACA until after the US Supreme Court makes a ruling. He doesn't need $25 billion for the wall any more. That $25 billion had a bunch of stuff that wasn't just wall construction, it had other stuff in it too, it was also over a 10 year period, most people didn't realize that. Trump just wants to get the barrier itself up for now. He's already done 100 miles and has funding for the 115 miles that will start construction later this month. The $5.6 billion is two years worth of projects so he doesn't have to go through this again with these stupid DemoQuacks next year.

Trump's got this. So I hope after the big round table meeting this afternoon, there's a big announcement and this whole ordeal is over.

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The estimated cost of the border wall itself is around $25 billion total and that is what Trump originally wanted for his wall. Now he has backed down and is willing to accept only one fifth of that which will not get his promised border wall built, just one fifth of it. No, Trump has not constructed 100 miles of his border wall and no, Trump does not have funding for 115 miles of his border wall. Actually, the truth is he has no funding for a new border wall (duh, that's what this whole shut down is about) as was specifically written into the last DHS appropriations bill. All he ever had was funding for repairs, maintenance, and some upgrades to current fencing.

So much obfuscation and falsehoods ..... I'm getting dizzy trying to keep up.

By the way, why would anything Trump attempts to do be over a 10 year period? Are you saying he never planned on getting his campaigned for wall entirely built? Projected funding can always be ended by the Congress. Whatever he does has to be done while he's sitting in the Oval Office, not 'hope' it gets done after he's gone. I don't really know anything about this 10 year plan you're talking about, but if one does exist, it's stupid as all get out and smells of deception!

Last, but far from the least, Trump would make a DACA deal in a heart beat if the cards lined up right and to deny that is to deny exactly who Trump is. In the end he want to protect those folks in DACA.

Oh I see, you're playing the DemoQuackery "wall" bit. Not surprising. Trump said during the campaign the wall might be see-through and made out of steel instead of concrete at least in certain places because that's what Border Patrol wants. If you'd been a Trump Supporter who paid attention you would know this.

Why would Trump care what you and the DemoQuacks do after he's no longer in office? He doesn't. He's going to do what he wants to do. That is his privilege as President of the United States. So if you want more "wall", you'll have to vote for him in 2020.

Trump isn't stupid.

Oh he's going to a DACA deal, there's no doubt about that. It's a matter of when for what.

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Oh I see, you're playing the DemoQuackery "wall" bit. Not surprising. Trump said during the campaign the wall might be see-through and made out of steel instead of concrete at least in certain places because that's what Border Patrol wants. If you'd been a Trump Supporter who paid attention you would know this.

Why would Trump care what you and the DemoQuacks do after he's no longer in office? He doesn't. He's going to do what he wants to do. That is his privilege as President of the United States. So if you want more "wall", you'll have to vote for him in 2020.

Trump isn't stupid.

Oh he's going to a DACA deal, there's no doubt about that. It's a matter of when for what.

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So you finally came out of the shadows to admit Trump supports illegal alien amnesty! Of course we already knew it, but none the less, it's finally good to hear you admit it.

So you're also saying Trump doesn't care what happens to our country after he's out of office? Doesn't say much for his character or reasons for becoming President of the United States.

He said during the campaign that after the following occurred, he would decide what to do with the ones that were left:

1. deportation of all criminals including misdemeanors
2. deportation of all welfare frauds (public charges)
3. deportation of all visa over-stays
4. deportation of all immigration document violators

Whoever is left, he and Republicans would decide what to do with, which of course would include DACAs, not in 1., 2., 3., or 4.

Trump considered amnesty as citizenship or a pathway to citizenship. A lot of people do. Since the big DACA deal negotiations, he realizes that a lot of other people consider any type of permit a type of amnesty.

This of course is all very old news I guess you missed when it was happening.

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Oh I see, you're playing the DemoQuackery "wall" bit. Not surprising. Trump said during the campaign the wall might be see-through and made out of steel instead of concrete at least in certain places because that's what Border Patrol wants. If you'd been a Trump Supporter who paid attention you would know this.

Why would Trump care what you and the DemoQuacks do after he's no longer in office? He doesn't. He's going to do what he wants to do. That is his privilege as President of the United States. So if you want more "wall", you'll have to vote for him in 2020.

Trump isn't stupid.

Oh he's going to a DACA deal, there's no doubt about that. It's a matter of when for what.

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I'm "playing" the truth.

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He said during the campaign that after the following occurred, he would decide what to do with the ones that were left:

1. deportation of all criminals including misdemeanors
2. deportation of all welfare frauds (public charges)
3. deportation of all visa over-stays
4. deportation of all immigration document violators

Whoever is left, he and Republicans would decide what to do with, which of course would include DACAs, not in 1., 2., 3., or 4.

Trump considered amnesty as citizenship or a pathway to citizenship. A lot of people do. Since the big DACA deal negotiations, he realizes that a lot of other people consider any type of permit a type of amnesty.

This of course is all very old news I guess you missed when it was happening.

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Amnesty is anything that legally authorizes illegal aliens to remain in the United States, period. Trump knows this, you know this, I know this, and everyone in North America, including Donald Trump, knows this.

The federal government including the US DOJ, DHS, and State Department have been handing out "amnesty" under your definition and the Rule of Law for ... decades. If you don't like the laws that allow this, you ought to work to change them like Trump does.

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The federal government including the US DOJ, DHS, and State Department have been handing out "amnesty" under your definition and the Rule of Law for ... decades. If you don't like the laws that allow this, you ought to work to change them like Trump does.

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So you support illegal alien amnesty when Trump supports it, huh?

No, I don't support it at all any time. Our laws do, which he has to abide as President.

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Why would Trump care what you and the DemoQuacks do after he's no longer in office? He doesn't. He's going to do what he wants to do. That is his privilege as President of the United States. So if you want more "wall", you'll have to vote for him in 2020.

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I see you are already campaigning for 2020 , and although you may not realize it, you are using talking points that push people away, not bring them to your party.

The wall we were promised in 2015 wasn't promised for "if you vote for me in 2020".

You are demanding that although someone tells an outright lie about the wall, vote for them again in 2020.

Like I said yesterday it is similar to a victim of abuse telling the abuser "hit me again, it feels good".

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He said during the campaign that after the following occurred, he would decide what to do with the ones that were left:

1. deportation of all criminals including misdemeanors
2. deportation of all welfare frauds (public charges)
3. deportation of all visa over-stays
4. deportation of all immigration document violators

Whoever is left, he and Republicans would decide what to do with, which of course would include DACAs, not in 1., 2., 3., or 4.

Trump considered amnesty as citizenship or a pathway to citizenship. A lot of people do. Since the big DACA deal negotiations, he realizes that a lot of other people consider any type of permit a type of amnesty.

This of course is all very old news I guess you missed when it was happening.

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After is a very important word here. Has any of those 4 items occurred? No
Was he sending out daily tweets about loving DACA and trying to give them amnesty before any of that occurred? Yes

Thank you for your opinion, but I think the strategy of the Republican Party is to bring new people into the party who support the whole or most of the Trump Agenda into the party, not just one piece of many pieces of one issue.

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After is a very important word here. Has any of those 4 items occurred? No
Was he sending out daily tweets about loving DACA and trying to give them amnesty before any of that occurred? Yes

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Yes, they've been occurring since soon after he was inaugurated almost 2 years ago. Are they finished? No, not by a long shot, which is why he's in no hurry to do a DACA deal at this point. No reason to do so. Trump still wants his 70 point legislative action and funding plan plus money for the wall and paraphenalia related to it, roads, surveillance cameras, drones, etc., etc., etc. In his mind the work permits for DACAs was worth it. During the campaign, he envisioned it would be years down the road and at this point it will be.

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Thank you for your opinion, but I think the strategy of the Republican Party is to bring new people into the party who support the whole or most of the Trump Agenda into the party, not just one piece of many pieces of one issue.

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Most of us are here for issues related to immigration and border security because that is our priority. To the majority of us everything else is secondary in nature. If we continue importing Democrat voters the way we have been the Republican party will be nothing but Jeff Flakes, John McCain's, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham's, Will Hurd's, Jeff Denham's, etc. Moderate Republicans will be the future of the party. Is that really what you want, a whole party of RINOs?

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Most of us are here for issues related to immigration and border security because that is our priority. To the majority of us everything else is secondary in nature. If we continue importing Democrat voters the way we have been the Republican party will be nothing but Jeff Flakes, John McCain's, Susan Collins, Lindsey Graham's, Will Hurd's, Jeff Denham's, etc. Moderate Republicans will be the future of the party. Is that really what you want, a whole party of RINOs?

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You're being way too nice calling the Flake's and McCain's a Moderate.

Why is Lying Chuk Schumer and Nancy Botox Pelosi unwilling to protect our borders from illegal border crossings?




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JWK

The DemocratParty Leadership has been encouraging this ongoing invasion of our southernborder since 1985 when amnesty was granted to 2.5 million illegal entrants inreturn for a guarantee to build a wall and secure our border. And here we are today, no wall, but 10-15 millionmore illegal entrants and the invasion continues

They also cost US taxpayers 100% of their $133 BILLION A YEAR that WE foot the bill for in their school, healthcare, welfare, food stamps, housing, courts, jails, crimes and anchor babies!!!