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Senator Sessions coming up in 5 min on c-span two....don't miss it!!!
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...rse3858476.gif >>RED ALERT" "ACTION NEEDED NOW!!"<<
PLEASE MAKE CALLS, FAXES AND E-MAILS.....
THEIR TRYING TO GET AMNESTY AGAIN WITH THE AG'S BILL IN THE
IRAQ FUNDING BILL.....
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-115596.html
1:18pm PM
Yep, he came right out and mentioned it in his opening remarks.
He's gonna take this ball and run! :D
Talking now.
Talked about last year's amnesty disaster,
Previous amnesty (1986) failures,
Mentioning positioning legislation into War funding bill,
Estimates this AgJobs - would legalize up to 3 million IAs,
"This legislation is a bad bill, and should not become law".
Mentions H2b visa, 65k / yr; etc. mentions current problems with employment and trends in higher unemployment in US. Why now?
Would increase employment-based green cards 218k; 'green card recapture'. It is a PR status, a guaranteed path the citizenship.
Would re-authorize foreign investor visa program. (probably ok).
Hasn't been discussed in Judiciary Committee Hearing. It was just stuck in bill w/o any real debate.
These are worthy of discussion.
We can talk about a real guest-worker program.
1:23pm PT
I wouldn't miss hearing Jeff Session speak for anything.
He just mentioned all of us crashing the phone system last summer :lol: :lol:
Thank You . The Senator is on right now speaking the Truth . Love ya Jeff.
Watching him speak always reminds me of Forrest.he even has Jennie sitting by him , yeah :D But he's honest , stand up and a Patriot . All i want in a Senator . Great choice people of Alabama
1:24pm PT
This represents a major shift in immigration policy and done without light of debate or public review.
Last year's - entire senate switchboard shutdown. And that's when senate votes started chaning from yea to nea.
The public is cynical because they see us saying one thing, and doing another.
We can talk about having a legal guest-worker program, and I thought we agreed about this. I thought this was the right answer.
The American people that was fundamentally correct on this all along.
I thought, we had gotten the message, but oh no, here we come again.
1:25pm
I'm watching now :D
We already issue over 1 million GC's every year. (Green Cards)
Recipients have to meet some basic requirements.
Why do we seem to be incapable of enclosing the loop in creating a legal system that works.
This is not acceptable way to do business. We don't need to have the war supplemental tied up in a controversial debate.
AgJobs bill is fundamentally unacceptable.
Bill -
Bill is 100+ pages. Legalization for 3 million IAs.
5 yr legalization to live and work in US.
Reqs legalized treated as PRs (Perm Residents).
Performed Ag employment 863 hrs or 150 days have earned 7k from Ag job -... over 4 yr period.
(etc)
It is particularly galling to me - we say we are serious about all this, "I am for a legal system"... but we propose a piece of legistlation that rewards people that have arrived here illegally up to last year. (!)
Consistently and morality are not consistent with creating a legal system.
IA cannot prove they paid taxes while here,
Who would qualify?
Any IA that arrived up to 2007 earning 7k that year.
IAs arrived up to 7/2007, etc.
Earlier ones that earned 1750$,
IAs 37.5 days per day for 4 years, (what about 300+ days not working here?)
This was a deliberate attempt to squeeze in a bunch of barely related groups into a legalization program.
IAs spouses not already illegally present, then they would be encouraged to come here. Application period does not start until 7 mos. after enactment.
1:32pm PT
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Originally Posted by PhredE
I had a good chuckle over that one. Jeff's delivery of that line was absolutely perfect :lol: :lol:
If spouse or child is caught crossing border, this bill allows them de facto sanctuary so long as they make a claim they were coming to join existing family.
5 yr visa sunset. "Don't worry, it's only 5 yr amnesty".
He asks - what will Congress do 5 years from now?
These people become more rooted in communities. Harder to encourage them to go home.
A real guest-worker program is needed - a legal, temporary program - is doable. This is NOT that.
Congress should not be considering this bill.
Sen Byrd said "This amounts to Amnesty".
It specifically, get this, creates a pathway to c-ship to sheep herders, goat herders, and dairy workers.
"We need to find out who lobbied for this"
1:37pm PT
8O could stop them from deporting woman and children who are coming across the border :evil:
This will eviscerate the rule of law.
We made some progress of convincing the world that our border is secured ...
We say we are doing 'border security'... but we really don't care.
It's ok if you get here, we really don't care. Bring your family, etc.
One of the key things that ought not to be dismissed by American people, there is not 1 provision in this to further enforcement. Everything there is about ignoring the consequences of violating the law. This is most distressing.
I encourage my colleagues.... the H2b provisions have no business being part of this bill.
1:39pm PT
Thanks for the updates. I hope Sen. Sessions is able to help convince enough of his colleagues.
1:40pm PT
Number of low-skilled H2b workers will soar.
300k in 2009,
275k in 2010,
etc
Over 1 mil entering over next 4 years.
These workers will be competing with US workers in construction, agriculture, etc. during a time of softening jobs situation.
Some say... This is not such a huge increase.,
Did we have any hearing on this? Did we consult the American people on this?
Hopefully, somehow, I hope we can move on the WS in a way that does not involve immigration bill.
I oppose AgJobs lite as vigorously as possible.
I was surprised to see this broad piece of legislation attached to the WS bill.
(Ends 1:42pm PT).
Sen Specter speaking...
I hope Senator Vitters speaks also :lol:
the Traitor Specter is up...he voted for the ags bill...the rat, notice he is not speaking of it, but he should be emarrassed :evil:
Phrede did you get this on tape so it can be put on YouTube? It would be great if we could do that and send it across in our address books and bombard the American citizens with this information.
SOSAD - yes, let's hope that core group of senators that jumped into the fray last time around don't hesitate to do so again.
Vitter, DeMint, and Sessions, of course, I think handled the floor rebuttal really well last time. Notable mention also to McCaskill, Dorgan, Ensign, Inhofe, Coburn, etc. for more specific but also strong questioning about various aspect of immigration legislation too.
Gogo - Sorry, don't have ability to digitally record via web (well, yet).
I wouldn't be surprised if someone, somewhere, has done so however. :wink:
I just called Feinstein's office and told them Sessions just exposed her agenda and when it hits the press she's gonna be blown out of the water. She needs to save face and pull it now!
Hope so, some people would rather listen and watch than read.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhredE
I will retroactively correct and emphasize (bold) my posts above to add a little more clarity and clean-up typos and such (give me a couple minutes).
Phrede just talked to Session office. They said if we go to www.thomas.loc.gov they will probably have the video of that up but it may take about an hour. I wonder if there is anyway someone can bounce off of that info. I don't have any idea how to do it. Maybe BetsyRoss would know how.
Just tried and my link didn't work. Is anyone familiar with that site?
Spector seems very nervous and out of sorts....wonder if it has anything to do with following Sessions :lol:
I just sent him a very nasty e-mail....
Dear Senator Specter,
How dare you vote to sneak in the ags job bill into the Iraq spending bill, I am so disappointed in you it makes me ill.
When Americans are losing their jobs, homes and trying to compete with all of this cheap labor you are allowing to enter our country and you SNEAK something like this in a bill to fund our soldiers, you are a disgrace to this country and the American citizens.....shame on you, know wonder the American people are quitting the Republican party, this is the last straw for me, I have now decided to go Independent...the Republicans are no different than the Demarcates, all of you are willing to sell us right down the river, I am sure our forefathers are turning in their grave, you so called gutless politicians are destroying this great country while pandering to special interest such as LaRaza, LULAC etc. and big AG business. and on top of all the cheap labor you are giving farmers you force us "we the people" to aid the farmers with our tax dollars....how much more pathetic can you Senators get!!! I do believe you are as low as you can go!!
[quote="PhredE"]If spouse or child is caught crossing border, this bill allows them de facto sanctuary so lons as they make a claim they were coming to join existing family.
This is one of the most outrageous things about this mess. Just the thought of someone being caught in the act of committing a crime and being given an excuse for doing so, is bad enough.
Worse still is the fact that literal millions of IAs with absolutely no family members working in Ag could use the same excuse and be sent on their way because how in the world is anyone supposed to know who is telling the truth or not?
It's just plain insanity, that's what it is.
5 yr visa sunset. "Don't worry, it's only 5 yr amnesty".
He asks - what will Congress do 5 years from now?
These people become more rooted in communities. Harder to encourage them to go home.
Even if there was a plan to track these people and make sure they left when they were supposed to, who are they kidding that this would ever happen?
It's almost guaranteed that as the clock was winding down on the 5 years, those workers would pack up and disappear just like every other visa overstay has done.
And the pattern would just continue repeating itself over and over again.
That's why I am not at all convinced that any type of guest worker program is ever really going to work. Unless all other means by which these people would be able to function here illegally are removed.....and I mean everything........nothing like this will ever be effectively carried out standing alone.
You realize most crops are picked and harvested between May and October. What are those farm migrants going to be doing the rest of the time?
Dixie
I'll tell you what they're doing. They're at the day laborers worksites taking out jobs, such as construction, away from American workers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie
Or they are drug trafficking, etc as they do here.
I wonder how much of the truth is going in one ear and right out the other?
Darn, I missed this but thanks for the details provided. Hope to be able to view soon.
Love watching Senator Sessions in action.
working in construction, taking the jobs of fathers of American children....working in fast food, taking the jobs of the children of American fathers and so on and so forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie
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Oh, I'm sorry I missed Sessions speak. Did it look like most of the members were in attendance to hear this?! If the video comes up I'll help spread it too.
I feel like developing a cough on Wednesday so I can stay at home and watch the vote. :wink:
Thanks for you hard work phrede
If there is an angle they will use it.Quote:
If spouse or child is caught crossing border, this bill allows them de facto sanctuary so lons as they make a claim they were coming to join existing family.
Families would begin consisting of 18 brothers/sisters/children.
What about in-laws as relatives?
Families would 'adopt' special needs or ill distant relatives children to get free health care in the U.S.
Consulates could advice the men to say they are with Jeff Warren's sect or something similar and have 5 wives and children by all those wives just to get people in the country. Am sure the consulates could provide marriage certificates.
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Polygomists in Mexico
So you'd probably be thinking that if I were a more than a thousand miles away from Utah there would be far fewer Polygomists. WRONG. In actuality I've ran into far more polygomists in Mexico that I have in my whole life. And it turns out that one of our old lady friends in the ward axtually supports the Reorganized Church and wants that her daughter actually goes with her husband and crew of children live in the colony they have like two hours away. ( This is the same old lady that alway talks about how her husband was one of the first missionaries in Mexico and how he knew Parley Pratt) AND Every week or so some of the polgimy boys come down to invite her daughters to activities they have. I think they are looking for furure wifes or something go fig. Mexico is like a box of choclates; you never know what your going to get.
http://elderlloyd.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html
We need to send Senator Sessions and his staff the biggest thanks for his tireless work in fighting these these amnesty bills. He just doesn't quit!!
I did that right after he finished speaking!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Captainron
The prevailing view is that Bush will veto the Iraq funding if too many amendments are attached. I've been calling Feinstein's office to ask them why she thinks we need more Ag workers--when we already have thirty million running around this country.
I called Sessions office and when I was done I said "please tell the Senator thank you for me. I'm in Feinstein's district and there is NO working with that woman. Senator Sessions is our firewall every time on these issues. I bet he feels like he has to wear an asbestos fireproof suit to work at time." She giggled.
They'll be getting Food Stamps, Medicad, Section 8 Housing and whatever else their Mexican Consulates tell them how to get.
statesman.com
Sessions blasts Feinstein immigration amendment
By Eunice Moscoso | Monday, May 19, 2008, 05:02 PM
Sparks may fly this week as the Senate considers an Iraq spending bill that includes some immigration amendments.
One of them — by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. — would give temporary visas to farm workers who are in the United States illegally.
Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said on the Senate floor Monday that the Feinstein amendment other immigration-related amendments were an effort to rush through a “back-door amnestyâ€
With what's been in the headlines, especially the last few weeks, all we need is a few MORE million illegals roaming the streets with time on their hands! Might want to lock your daughters up during "off season"! :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie
PhredE-
Thank you for keeping up with this!My 6 yr. old Grand Daughter got here just as I saw the new post....so with only one TV, Spongebob took priority :lol:
He was just on Lou Dobbs! He is a great guy! :)