Senate filibuster will likely kill DREAM Act legislation

Gutierrez: Senate filibuster will likely kill DREAM Act legislation
By Mike Lillis - 12/18/10 06:00 AM ET
With the Senate poised to vote Saturday on legislation offering illegal immigrant students a chance to remain in the country lawfully, one of Capitol Hill's leading advocates for the DREAM Act doesn't like its chances.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said Friday that, while supporters have picked up "a few Republicans" in the Senate, a GOP filibuster will likely sink the bill.



"It would pass if we would just let democracy work," Gutierrez said, indicating the proposal will win support from a majority of senators, but not the 60 members required to defeat a filibuster.

The Illinois Democrat also slammed Senate Republicans for what he considers their over-reliance on procedural hurdles to kill even minor Democratic initiatives.

"I thought the filibuster was for, like, going to war — not for everything," Gutierrez said. Maybe someone should let him know THIS IS A WAR :!: :twisted: House lawmakers passed the DREAM Act last week, but the proposal faces a much tougher road in the Senate, where even past supporters of the bill have jumped ship this year.

Of the seven Republicans to vote in favor of a similar measure in 2007, only two — Sens. Richard Lugar (Ind.) and Robert Bennett (Utah) — have committed to supporting it this time around. A number of centrist Democrats have also announced their opposition to the bill, including Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.), who voted for the 2007 measure, and Jon Tester (Mont.).

A number of lawmakers, including Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), remained undecided.

Sponsored by Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the nine-year-old DREAM Act would create a pathway to permanent residency — and, eventually, citizenship — for illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, have the equivalent of a high school degree, and enter college or the military.

Supporters argue it offers motivated children the opportunity to achieve their potential, while critics maintain it would reward lawbreakers and steal jobs from U.S. citizens.

The Senate is expected to vote on the measure Saturday morning.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/1343 ... 1#comments

GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!

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GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!

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He couldn't
Luis is not a mexican

I sincerely hope it does kill the Dream Act. I like many feel sorry for these kids but we are a nation of laws and we also have to look out for our children. Many of us can't get state assistance or federal assistance when needed but the federal government loves to hand it out to illegals already.

After serving in the Army and becomming a disabled vet I was homeless for just under a year. I qualified as a single white male in 2002 for $50 a month in food stamps and that was it. The state denied me assistance, they denied me welfare, SSD, and then I found the normal amount of foodstamps given was $125 a month where I lived if a minority female. I saw every time I tried hispanics who couldn't speak a word of english applying and recieving welfare. I even saw hispanic social workers in the welfare office quickly grab and lead likely illegals away to their cubical for a quick rush through. Fortuneately for me while the state and federal government spat on me the VA workers came through and helped me out until my VA claim finally went through. I'm also married to a Filipino who had to do the visa process the legal way. No "Dream Act" for me... a once proud US Armed Forced Disabled Veteran.

This whole act is a nightmare. First and foremost the border should be closed. Shut down completely. The people have spoken and the vast majority support even using the Military to shut it down and look at illegals crossing as potential terrorists. How can we have a "Dream Act" without a secured border? How can we make sure those who come over after its passed really lived in the US from the proper age? They are illegal and have no documents. They can give any name they wish, they can forge HS documents or even say they dropped out and get a quick GED and push onward.

Up in arms?

You don't know how close to reality this could be

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GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!

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He couldn't
Luis is not a mexican

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So? That does not seem to matter much in this country whether or not you are a citizen...

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GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!

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He couldn't
Luis is not a mexican

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So? That does not seem to matter much in this country whether or not you are a citizen...

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In Mexico he would be an illegal alien , probably thrown in jail

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Up in arms?

You don't know how close to reality this could be

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Ohh I know just how close. I personally want to see the supporters of this bill tried for Grand Treason myself as their political oath is to protect the rights and interests of the American people. Grand Treason sounds fitting to me.

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Gutierrez: Senate filibuster will likely kill DREAM Act legislation
By Mike Lillis - 12/18/10 06:00 AM ET
With the Senate poised to vote Saturday on legislation offering illegal immigrant students a chance to remain in the country lawfully, one of Capitol Hill's leading advocates for the DREAM Act doesn't like its chances.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said Friday that, while supporters have picked up "a few Republicans" in the Senate, a GOP filibuster will likely sink the bill.



"It would pass if we would just let democracy work," Gutierrez said, indicating the proposal will win support from a majority of senators, but not the 60 members required to defeat a filibuster.

The Illinois Democrat also slammed Senate Republicans for what he considers their over-reliance on procedural hurdles to kill even minor Democratic initiatives.

"I thought the filibuster was for, like, going to war — not for everything," Gutierrez said. Maybe someone should let him know THIS IS A WAR :!: :twisted: House lawmakers passed the DREAM Act last week, but the proposal faces a much tougher road in the Senate, where even past supporters of the bill have jumped ship this year.

Of the seven Republicans to vote in favor of a similar measure in 2007, only two — Sens. Richard Lugar (Ind.) and Robert Bennett (Utah) — have committed to supporting it this time around. A number of centrist Democrats have also announced their opposition to the bill, including Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.), who voted for the 2007 measure, and Jon Tester (Mont.).

A number of lawmakers, including Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), remained undecided.

Sponsored by Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the nine-year-old DREAM Act would create a pathway to permanent residency — and, eventually, citizenship — for illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, have the equivalent of a high school degree, and enter college or the military.

Supporters argue it offers motivated children the opportunity to achieve their potential, while critics maintain it would reward lawbreakers and steal jobs from U.S. citizens.

The Senate is expected to vote on the measure Saturday morning.
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"I thought the filibuster was for, like, going to war -- not for everything," Gutierrez said........remember folks, this is the mental caliber of politicians that are being elected to govern this country. Gutierrez might also consider actually reading the constitution and remember what that oath of office he took was all about. He has openly stated that his primary objective, or "cause" as an elected congressman is getting amnesty for illegals starting with the dream act.

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I sincerely hope it does kill the Dream Act. I like many feel sorry for these kids but we are a nation of laws and we also have to look out for our children. Many of us can't get state assistance or federal assistance when needed but the federal government loves to hand it out to illegals already.

After serving in the Army and becomming a disabled vet I was homeless for just under a year. I qualified as a single white male in 2002 for $50 a month in food stamps and that was it. The state denied me assistance, they denied me welfare, SSD, and then I found the normal amount of foodstamps given was $125 a month where I lived if a minority female. I saw every time I tried hispanics who couldn't speak a word of english applying and recieving welfare. I even saw hispanic social workers in the welfare office quickly grab and lead likely illegals away to their cubical for a quick rush through. Fortuneately for me while the state and federal government spat on me the VA workers came through and helped me out until my VA claim finally went through. I'm also married to a Filipino who had to do the visa process the legal way. No "Dream Act" for me... a once proud US Armed Forced Disabled Veteran.

This whole act is a nightmare. First and foremost the border should be closed. Shut down completely. The people have spoken and the vast majority support even using the Military to shut it down and look at illegals crossing as potential terrorists. How can we have a "Dream Act" without a secured border? How can we make sure those who come over after its passed really lived in the US from the proper age? They are illegal and have no documents. They can give any name they wish, they can forge HS documents or even say they dropped out and get a quick GED and push onward.

I for one am close to wanting to go up and arms over this. Do American Citizens have to band together and defend our own border by tooth and bullet? What would they say if tomarrow 25,000 US Citizens arrived with rifles in hand on the border ready to shoot on sight any who dare step one inch over the line? Will we then be the criminals? Will our "illegal" actions go ignored like their actions did?

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Wecome Syanis.... You got here just In time to see the "nightmare defeated :!: :D

WELCOME TO ALIPAC Syanis

I am not a young woman and I am in shock by the growing corruption and shredding of our constitution. This is a WAR for our culture, constitution and way of life. We can not afford to lose.

And all GutierrASS needs is a matricula card and he's in!
You can pick one up at any 7eleven!
Welcome to Alipac Syanis glad you could join the fight for freedom!

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WELCOME TO ALIPAC Syanis

I am not a young woman and I am in shock by the growing corruption and shredding of our constitution. This is a WAR for our culture, constitution and way of life. We can not afford to lose.

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Thanks for the welcome. I've been in other places spreading the word but just recently found this place. I'm just so sick of the political squabbles and Reps want this and Dems want that. When it comes to American Citizens in 75% of the agenda we want the same thing. Its the politicians who twist it all to hell and back again.

Its a sad day when a Veteran wants to say he is ashamed to say he is ashamed to be an American if being an American means we have to support this corrupt government.

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I sincerely hope it does kill the Dream Act. I like many feel sorry for these kids but we are a nation of laws and we also have to look out for our children. Many of us can't get state assistance or federal assistance when needed but the federal government loves to hand it out to illegals already.

After serving in the Army and becomming a disabled vet I was homeless for just under a year. I qualified as a single white male in 2002 for $50 a month in food stamps and that was it. The state denied me assistance, they denied me welfare, SSD, and then I found the normal amount of foodstamps given was $125 a month where I lived if a minority female. I saw every time I tried hispanics who couldn't speak a word of english applying and recieving welfare. I even saw hispanic social workers in the welfare office quickly grab and lead likely illegals away to their cubical for a quick rush through. Fortuneately for me while the state and federal government spat on me the VA workers came through and helped me out until my VA claim finally went through. I'm also married to a Filipino who had to do the visa process the legal way. No "Dream Act" for me... a once proud US Armed Forced Disabled Veteran.

This whole act is a nightmare. First and foremost the border should be closed. Shut down completely. The people have spoken and the vast majority support even using the Military to shut it down and look at illegals crossing as potential terrorists. How can we have a "Dream Act" without a secured border? How can we make sure those who come over after its passed really lived in the US from the proper age? They are illegal and have no documents. They can give any name they wish, they can forge HS documents or even say they dropped out and get a quick GED and push onward.

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Exactly, Syanis and welcome to ALIPAC! Thank you for your service to our country and for helping US fight this nightmare. You make excellent points and thank you again for doing so. It's time for all Americans wo wake up, pull their heads out of their booty, use their common sense that has always been part of American Exceptionalism and show their courage to stand up for what is right, which has always been the core of the American Soul.

The Dream Act is wrong, because illegal immigration is wrong.

I really feel that some of those that got the boot November 2nd are trying to pass every single bill they can to punish us. Thank God not all of them, and some actually listened. When OUR representatives say they are working for Hispanics, what the hell are they thinking? And why aren't Americans screaming?
I believe we need to legally go after those that encourage breaking our laws. To include those that refuse to secure our borders.
We lost a young Border Patrol agent and you hear little about it when it should be a top story and we should see OUR representatives saying it's time to secure our country and protect innocent Americans. But it is the same people that allow drug cartels and human smugglers to stay 80 miles inside our border safe and secure, while Americans are warned to stay out of the area.
This is such a "duh" to me. I get so angry and frustrated. And then I pray since that is the only thing that is going to save us.

Gutierrez is a Marxist racist who would gladly change or ignore established procedure to get this NIGHTMARE ACT rammed through! Just like his beloved illegal invaders, the rule of law means nothing. If they don't like a law they ignore it!

He does not give a damn about this country or its survival, only he deliver what the illegal invaders who elected him into Congress demand! Gutierrez is the official representative of illegal invaders in his district and across this country. As you can see, the desires of illegal invaders and their supporters are a danger to this country and our survival!

We are already at war with these people but our flaccid government will not muster the courage to fight for the American people. People like Gutierrez should be arrested and tried for treason because that’s exactly what his actions amount to. Betrayal pf this country and our people!

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Gutierrez is a Marxist racist who would gladly change or ignore established procedure to get this NIGHTMARE ACT rammed through! Just like his beloved illegal invaders, the rule of law means nothing. If they don't like a law they ignore it!

He does not give a damn about this country or its survival, only he deliver what the illegal invaders who elected him into Congress demand! Gutierrez is the official representative of illegal invaders in his district and across this country. As you can see, the desires of illegal invaders and their supporters are a danger to this country and our survival!

We are already at war with these people but our flaccid government will not muster the courage to fight for the American people. People like Gutierrez should be arrested and tried for treason because that’s exactly what his actions amount to. Betrayal pf this country and our people!

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Oh how so, so right you are! There is no allegiance by this worthless Puerto Rican, period. I heard the other day on a talk show with Rush Limbaugh or someone that the mosque at ground zero would never be built because no self respecting American would be willing to work the project. My response? ......"mosque would never be built"? ....surely you jest. the moderator was right about "no self respecting American", .......if this project ever gets funded, watch and see who shows up to work