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    Senate filibuster will likely kill DREAM Act legislation

    Gutierrez: Senate filibuster will likely kill DREAM Act legislation
    By Mike Lillis - 12/18/10 06:00 AM ET
    With the Senate poised to vote Saturday on legislation offering illegal immigrant students a chance to remain in the country lawfully, one of Capitol Hill's leading advocates for the DREAM Act doesn't like its chances.

    Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said Friday that, while supporters have picked up "a few Republicans" in the Senate, a GOP filibuster will likely sink the bill.



    "It would pass if we would just let democracy work," Gutierrez said, indicating the proposal will win support from a majority of senators, but not the 60 members required to defeat a filibuster.

    The Illinois Democrat also slammed Senate Republicans for what he considers their over-reliance on procedural hurdles to kill even minor Democratic initiatives.

    "I thought the filibuster was for, like, going to war — not for everything," Gutierrez said
    . Maybe someone should let him know THIS IS A WAR House lawmakers passed the DREAM Act last week, but the proposal faces a much tougher road in the Senate, where even past supporters of the bill have jumped ship this year.

    Of the seven Republicans to vote in favor of a similar measure in 2007, only two — Sens. Richard Lugar (Ind.) and Robert Bennett (Utah) — have committed to supporting it this time around. A number of centrist Democrats have also announced their opposition to the bill, including Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.), who voted for the 2007 measure, and Jon Tester (Mont.).

    A number of lawmakers, including Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), remained undecided.

    Sponsored by Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the nine-year-old DREAM Act would create a pathway to permanent residency — and, eventually, citizenship — for illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, have the equivalent of a high school degree, and enter college or the military.

    Supporters argue it offers motivated children the opportunity to achieve their potential, while critics maintain it would reward lawbreakers and steal jobs from U.S. citizens.

    The Senate is expected to vote on the measure Saturday morning.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/1343 ... 1#comments

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    GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
    I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevetheroofer
    GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
    I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!
    He couldn't
    Luis is not a mexican

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    I sincerely hope it does kill the Dream Act. I like many feel sorry for these kids but we are a nation of laws and we also have to look out for our children. Many of us can't get state assistance or federal assistance when needed but the federal government loves to hand it out to illegals already.

    After serving in the Army and becomming a disabled vet I was homeless for just under a year. I qualified as a single white male in 2002 for $50 a month in food stamps and that was it. The state denied me assistance, they denied me welfare, SSD, and then I found the normal amount of foodstamps given was $125 a month where I lived if a minority female. I saw every time I tried hispanics who couldn't speak a word of english applying and recieving welfare. I even saw hispanic social workers in the welfare office quickly grab and lead likely illegals away to their cubical for a quick rush through. Fortuneately for me while the state and federal government spat on me the VA workers came through and helped me out until my VA claim finally went through. I'm also married to a Filipino who had to do the visa process the legal way. No "Dream Act" for me... a once proud US Armed Forced Disabled Veteran.

    This whole act is a nightmare. First and foremost the border should be closed. Shut down completely. The people have spoken and the vast majority support even using the Military to shut it down and look at illegals crossing as potential terrorists. How can we have a "Dream Act" without a secured border? How can we make sure those who come over after its passed really lived in the US from the proper age? They are illegal and have no documents. They can give any name they wish, they can forge HS documents or even say they dropped out and get a quick GED and push onward.

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    Up in arms?

    You don't know how close to reality this could be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts
    Quote Originally Posted by stevetheroofer
    GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
    I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!
    He couldn't
    Luis is not a mexican
    So? That does not seem to matter much in this country whether or not you are a citizen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cayla99
    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts
    Quote Originally Posted by stevetheroofer
    GutierrASS, needs to drag his skinny ass back down south of the Texas border and apply for a job as MAYOR of Juarez!
    I'd sneak into Mexico just to vote for him!
    He couldn't
    Luis is not a mexican
    So? That does not seem to matter much in this country whether or not you are a citizen...
    In Mexico he would be an illegal alien , probably thrown in jail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts
    Up in arms?

    You don't know how close to reality this could be
    Ohh I know just how close. I personally want to see the supporters of this bill tried for Grand Treason myself as their political oath is to protect the rights and interests of the American people. Grand Treason sounds fitting to me.

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    Re: Senate filibuster will likely kill DREAM Act legislation

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    Gutierrez: Senate filibuster will likely kill DREAM Act legislation
    By Mike Lillis - 12/18/10 06:00 AM ET
    With the Senate poised to vote Saturday on legislation offering illegal immigrant students a chance to remain in the country lawfully, one of Capitol Hill's leading advocates for the DREAM Act doesn't like its chances.

    Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said Friday that, while supporters have picked up "a few Republicans" in the Senate, a GOP filibuster will likely sink the bill.



    "It would pass if we would just let democracy work," Gutierrez said, indicating the proposal will win support from a majority of senators, but not the 60 members required to defeat a filibuster.

    The Illinois Democrat also slammed Senate Republicans for what he considers their over-reliance on procedural hurdles to kill even minor Democratic initiatives.

    "I thought the filibuster was for, like, going to war — not for everything," Gutierrez said
    . Maybe someone should let him know THIS IS A WAR House lawmakers passed the DREAM Act last week, but the proposal faces a much tougher road in the Senate, where even past supporters of the bill have jumped ship this year.

    Of the seven Republicans to vote in favor of a similar measure in 2007, only two — Sens. Richard Lugar (Ind.) and Robert Bennett (Utah) — have committed to supporting it this time around. A number of centrist Democrats have also announced their opposition to the bill, including Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.), who voted for the 2007 measure, and Jon Tester (Mont.).

    A number of lawmakers, including Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), remained undecided.

    Sponsored by Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the nine-year-old DREAM Act would create a pathway to permanent residency — and, eventually, citizenship — for illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, have the equivalent of a high school degree, and enter college or the military.

    Supporters argue it offers motivated children the opportunity to achieve their potential, while critics maintain it would reward lawbreakers and steal jobs from U.S. citizens.

    The Senate is expected to vote on the measure Saturday morning.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/1343 ... 1#comments
    "I thought the filibuster was for, like, going to war -- not for everything," Gutierrez said........remember folks, this is the mental caliber of politicians that are being elected to govern this country. Gutierrez might also consider actually reading the constitution and remember what that oath of office he took was all about. He has openly stated that his primary objective, or "cause" as an elected congressman is getting amnesty for illegals starting with the dream act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syanis
    I sincerely hope it does kill the Dream Act. I like many feel sorry for these kids but we are a nation of laws and we also have to look out for our children. Many of us can't get state assistance or federal assistance when needed but the federal government loves to hand it out to illegals already.

    After serving in the Army and becomming a disabled vet I was homeless for just under a year. I qualified as a single white male in 2002 for $50 a month in food stamps and that was it. The state denied me assistance, they denied me welfare, SSD, and then I found the normal amount of foodstamps given was $125 a month where I lived if a minority female. I saw every time I tried hispanics who couldn't speak a word of english applying and recieving welfare. I even saw hispanic social workers in the welfare office quickly grab and lead likely illegals away to their cubical for a quick rush through. Fortuneately for me while the state and federal government spat on me the VA workers came through and helped me out until my VA claim finally went through. I'm also married to a Filipino who had to do the visa process the legal way. No "Dream Act" for me... a once proud US Armed Forced Disabled Veteran.

    This whole act is a nightmare. First and foremost the border should be closed. Shut down completely. The people have spoken and the vast majority support even using the Military to shut it down and look at illegals crossing as potential terrorists. How can we have a "Dream Act" without a secured border? How can we make sure those who come over after its passed really lived in the US from the proper age? They are illegal and have no documents. They can give any name they wish, they can forge HS documents or even say they dropped out and get a quick GED and push onward.

    I for one am close to wanting to go up and arms over this. Do American Citizens have to band together and defend our own border by tooth and bullet? What would they say if tomarrow 25,000 US Citizens arrived with rifles in hand on the border ready to shoot on sight any who dare step one inch over the line? Will we then be the criminals? Will our "illegal" actions go ignored like their actions did?
    Wecome Syanis.... You got here just In time to see the "nightmare defeated

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