Thread: Question: What If Amnesty Was Granted & The Border Secur

First, I am opposed to amnesty to illegal aliens. Second, the way things are going, suppose that Amnesty or Green Cards were issued to ALL 15-18 millions illegals in the U.S.A., along with a blueprint plan to close the borders in an effective manner by building a double-wall and increasing the number of BP.

Reagan did it in 1986, right? It didn't solve the problem. It made it worse over the years. What if Obama does it again in 2011?

Then what? Could amnesty be reversed after 2012 with a new President? What would happen to all the illegals and their green cards? Revocations?

We would fight to reverse the amnesty legislation before it became official because once millions of illegal aliens become US voters there will be no hope for future borders, border security, or immigration enforcement in America and we will all be powerless to stop the future waves of millions and the violence and degradation they will bring to current Americans.

W

Reagan DID NOT secure the border after the 1986 amnesty even though it was part of the Simpson-Mazolli Act.

So why should we think any time in the future that any administration is going to follow the laws already on the books. Not going to be easy with the way the lobbyists have all the power in DC. not to mention all the money, too

Originally Posted by legalalien

First, I am opposed to amnesty to illegal aliens. Second, the way things are going, suppose that Amnesty or Green Cards were issued to ALL 15-18 millions illegals in the U.S.A., along with a blueprint plan to close the borders in an effective manner by building a double-wall and increasing the number of BP.

Reagan did it in 1986, right? It didn't solve the problem. It made it worse over the years. What if Obama does it again in 2011?

Then what? Could amnesty be reversed after 2012 with a new President? What would happen to all the illegals and their green cards? Revocations?

I am not a lawyer, but I think green cards can be revoked because they are not open ended. This is because green cards have an expiration date on them and must be renewed. I cant remember how often they must be renewed. But if on the renewal date the immigrant no longer qualifies, then they would not get a new green card thereby revoking their resident status.

Here's a clue they are lying....when they say they will secure the border afterwards...

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

We would fight to reverse the amnesty legislation before it became official because once millions of illegal aliens become US voters there will be no hope for future borders, border security, or immigration enforcement in America and we will all be powerless to stop the future waves of millions and the violence and degradation they will bring to current Americans.

W

So you're saying that if we fought and lost, we'd be screwed? If I were to guess, I'd say they would give amnesty to just a few million people and then allow the next administration to deal with the problem. Amnesty to ALL would be insanity. If 10 Million illegal Mexicans brought in just 3 of their relatives over 5 years, that would mean another 30 million people here and no resources to accommodate them, including jobs. That doesn't sound like a very wise decision to make. And if the border wasn't fully secured, an amnesty would only encourage more people to invade the country and wait for the next one, even if it took another 25 years.

The reason the Mexicans and immigrants vote for progressives is because most were born and raised in socialistic countries and they don't understand the way our country is suppose to work. They can't appreciate us because we don't teach them and they don't want to learn. They are content living in the same siituation they came from.

Originally Posted by legalalien

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

We would fight to reverse the amnesty legislation before it became official because once millions of illegal aliens become US voters there will be no hope for future borders, border security, or immigration enforcement in America and we will all be powerless to stop the future waves of millions and the violence and degradation they will bring to current Americans.

W

So you're saying that if we fought and lost, we'd be screwed? If I were to guess, I'd say they would give amnesty to just a few million people and then allow the next administration to deal with the problem. Amnesty to ALL would be insanity. If 10 Million illegal Mexicans brought in just 3 of their relatives over 5 years, that would mean another 30 million people here and no resources to accommodate them, including jobs. That doesn't sound like a very wise decision to make. And if the border wasn't fully secured, an amnesty would only encourage more people to invade the country and wait for the next one, even if it took another 25 years.

If 15 million illegal aliens turn into voters, they will form a voting block that will make peaceful and political measures to control borders and immigration in America impossible, leaving all dissenting Americans, that were once the majority view in the nation, with the choice of accepting their fate quietly or pursuing non political courses of action that cannot and will not be discussed here.

W

We have been waiting for Border Security for 20 plus years, however this Administration seems even less open to the idea of it. They seem to have another agenda, and the more illegal aliens, the more foreign citizens coming illegally, and legally in mass numbers, many from nations that hate us, the more that their plans to change our nation gains followers. There are millions of people here now that have little interest in the Constitution, the American way of life, learning English, following the law, etc.

Psalm 139:14

Originally Posted by legalalien

First, I am opposed to amnesty to illegal aliens. Second, the way things are going, suppose that Amnesty or Green Cards were issued to ALL 15-18 millions illegals in the U.S.A., along with a blueprint plan to close the borders in an effective manner by building a double-wall and increasing the number of BP.

Reagan did it in 1986, right? It didn't solve the problem. It made it worse over the years. What if Obama does it again in 2011?

Then what? Could amnesty be reversed after 2012 with a new President? What would happen to all the illegals and their green cards? Revocations?

Reagan did NOT do it in 1986!

Reagan said after the fact that he never wanted to do it, and wished he had not done it.

In 1986 Mexico, the illegal aliens, and others making a buck had warehouses of xeroxed copies of all kinds of forms and documents that they gave and/or sold to illegal aliens who had never stepped a foot into the USA until they rushed the border to get amnesty.

The fraudulent papers considted of everything and anything they needed to justify that they had lived, worked, and went to school to learn English in the United States of America FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

Amnesty for Mexicans is DUAL CITIZENSHIP, which is what they want, because these people will die to the death for their homeland of Mexico.

These FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS, with the same copied signatures, can be found among other government forms and papers inside the USA's government offices.

That story, as told by one of the very American citizens of the "You Don't Speak For Me" organization, who helped with the 1986 amnesty, saw the illegal activities with the fraudulent documents, and turned against amnesty forever.