Some Ron Paul Supporters are saying vote may be rigged

this just came in my email. I'm making no claims about it, just posting it here for you to research and discuss this.-

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From: jham@iahf.com
Subject: Ron Paul Won NH in a Landslide & Was Robbed: Screen Capture from Boston Globe Website Showing AP Precinct #s Proves It


RP With Future Generations......... Howard Beale (Mad as Hell)......... Bev Harris from http://www.blackboxvoting.org
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Your help is needed to push RP to call for a RECOUNT of this obviously rigged primary.
SCREEN CAPTURE FROM BOSTON GLOBE WEBSITE SHOWING REAL TIME AP PRECINCT TALLIES TELLS THE REAL STORY: WE & RP GOT ROBBED!!! LHS Rigged this election via Diebold machines exactly the way Bev Harris of Black Box Voting Predicted.
LOOK AT THIS: http://www.youtube.com/v/qV6qAGigGYY&rel=1&border=1"> Several of us have backed this up in case anyone tries to remove it from cyberspace, but it proves election fraud has just occured in NH on a massive scale. This is a screen capture made from the Boston Globe (newspaper) website showing Associated Press real time precinct vote totals before they got rigged by LHS associates which counted 81% of the NH vote via their rigged Diebold machines.
Also see this:
Hand Count Shows 15% For Ron Paul


By zooamerica | January 9, 2008
This would have placed Dr. Paul in 3rd place, just as the polls were showing before the primary…
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23643
The computer counted votes are the problem.
Not a single hand count township showed less than 10%
Supposedly, Ron Paul got 8% - this does not make sense.
richmond is hand count 34% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
lyman is hand count 28.7% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Orange is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Harts location is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
wentworth is hand count 24% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
goshen is hand count 17.68% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
marlow is hand count 16.6% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
cornish is hand count 14.8% for dr. Paul…100% reporting
Rumney is hand count 14.5% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
croydon is hand count 14 % for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
dorchester is hand count 13.89% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
effingham is hand count 13% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
albany is hand count 12.9% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
antrim is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
south hampton is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
sullivan is hand count 12.61% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
troy is hand count 12.21% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
mason is hand count 11.88% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
newport is hand count 11.45% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
charlstown is hand count 11.3% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Allenstown is hand count 11.16% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
bristol is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
warren is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Strafford is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
washington is hand count 11.02% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
lancaster is hand count 10.9% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
springfield is hand count 10.6% for Dr.Paul…100% reporting
wilton is hand count 10.37% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Northfield is hand count 10.3% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
mont vernon is hand count 10.25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting


Join me in demanding a manual recount by doing the following:
1. Contact electionlaw@doj.nh.gov
2. Contact Ron Paul's campaign via this form on their website: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/form
Note: Today I had a long conversation with Walter Reddy of www.libertybroadcastnetwork.org Walter quit his job in Connecticut a year ago in order to stump for RP full time as a volunteer. He has run afoul of hiqhly questionable interference from some people on Ron Pauls Campaign Staff, as has Jim Condit Jr. or http://www.votefraud.org Walter monitored the poll results, but no one in the RP campaign helped him, the campaign interfered with his efforts and held a big party for RP at a time when all those volunteers should have been helping Walter monitor the results from the election. Why???
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Thanks.. forwarded to family and friends

Just posted this article under news but will put the link here:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd335.htm

I doubt a fair election could be obtained in America now due to high numbers of population, poor system of counting and various methods it just screams fraud.

We are in the USA and cannot believe 8O what is goin on. Are rights as citizens are being violated again!! I am 1 person and 1 person only but am shouting at the top of my lungs and nobody but you guys are listening!! :evil: I called the Republican party yesterday and ripped them a you know what!! I will be voting Democrat unless they get this voter fraud thing under control!! :wink:

This is very terrifying news.

If this is true, we have a lot more to worry about than just the terrorist's on an elevated code-red, or the NAU coming to this country.

This is VERY unsettling!!!!! 8O A push needs to be made for a recount whether people are for Ron Paul or not. This affects everyone no matter who they are for and says volumes about our election system. If it can happen to Ron PAul, it can happen to any candidate!

If there is creedence to this it does need to be investigated,

One would need to be very naive to believe some form of voter fraud does not exist,again due to difference from state to state in ID required, machines vs.voter ballots,etc. I've worked through the years in small local elections and the elements of fraud and people willing to do it are out there.

Having an exit poll and maybe citizens could start a system of voters emailing a central canidates site reporting they voted after they cast their ballot would help deter these criminals.

If our Government won't protect us we should by pass them and protect ourselves.

Do you guys think it is intentional or just inept people and crappy machines?
I do think fraud is possible tho..

Google the video Hacking Democracy, and watch it. Inept would have been to transpose the number from 31 to 13, feels to me deliberate.

I will do the e-mails as soon as I finish posting...you can almost bet this was on purpose and I would not doubt if the same thing happened on the Demacratic side, If I was Obama I would be doing some real investigating.

This is what it is going to take to get through these elections, these crooks need to know they are going to be watched at every turn "by the people"


And if this is found out to be true someone needs to be prosecuted! It is 2000 and 2004 all over again but this time folks we need to watch for anything and everything, it is not about which canidate it is, It's about free and honest elections and the will of the people, and we can not let Corporate America High jack it. These Machines have been forced on us, at our expense.

W, we posted several threads on this yesterday. from the stories coming out it looks as though some kind of fraud was committed. In Sutton, a family went in and voted for Ron Paul, yet the totol for him at the end was 0. Another poster said that 600 supporters voted for Paul in another town and only 300 were counted. This is a serious matter. The pollsters are all in awe that they could've been so wrong about their predictions of Obama coming out ahead and instead Clinton won. If this is an example of how this election is going to be run, it isn't going to matter who votes for who, and this crap needs to be stopped.

Granny Warriors is heading a fund raiser to get money for a recount, as well as the Ron Paul support group.

Well unfortunately I here in IL. am pretty much immune to this sort of behavior. After our last State election I was NEVER more convinced that voter fraud is alive and well! This is so sad.

I wish the government spent half the effort securing these voting systems that they do securing their military systems and expanding their ability to eavesdrop on network traffic.

Just to give you guys an idea of where we are at in terms of voting integrity, Ohio just reviewed its voting systems. Two information security firms were hired to analyze and critique the security of the e-voting system they are using in the state. Of the twelve baseline goals that needed to be met, the voting system met zero. We're talking no firewalls, no encryption, etc. This was in December 2007.

HBO ran a documentary special that showed the actual hacking of the vote (not in an actual election). The voting machines in question worked like an ATM - you put in the card to identify yourself and then you vote. However, this guy had modified his own card in such a way that, when he ran it through, would reach out and change the vote counts stored in the database. Apparently some of these offices aren't using anything more advanced than a MS Access database.

http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/hackin ... index.html

Hillary won in all the districts that used the Diebold electronic system! the districts that did NOT use Diebold reflected the exit poll results! Sounds fishy to me!!!

Do you guys think it is intentional or just inept people and crappy machines?
I do think fraud is possible tho..


Totally intentional. The machines may make the mistakes - but the machines are designed to make the mistakes - the right mistakes.

I have no doubt that it is intentional. How odd is it that in our election here for Governor we later found out that many of the Republican suburban votes were lost, or were not counted until extremely late into the night. 8 out of 10 people here cannot stand our Governor and that's including people from within his own party.

I read about this yesterday and contacted the RP site. I have also emailed the above contacts posted and I have forwarded this to everyone that I know .

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Do you guys think it is intentional or just inept people and crappy machines?
I do think fraud is possible tho..


Totally intentional. The machines may make the mistakes - but the machines are designed to make the mistakes - the right mistakes.

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I believe it was intentional as well! The powers that be are very afraid of Ron Paul! However, I am sure they would do this to any candidate they did not want to win.

Sounds like all electronic voting can be hi jacked so we should go back to the old system.A simple mechanical machine which registers when you punch.

I just hate to think this is intentional but all indications say it is intentional. :(

My God this makes us no better then countries our government chastise and scrutinize for unfair elections...........

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Sounds like all electronic voting can be hi jacked so we should go back to the old system.A simple mechanical machine which registers when you punch.

I just hate to think this is intentional but all indications say it is intentional. :(

My God this makes us no better then countries our government chastise and scrutinize for unfair elections...........

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I never bought into the voting rigging stuff but the fact that every town with hand count had paul at over 10% made me into a believer at least this instance...

that is just not coincidence...

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We are in the USA and cannot believe 8O what is goin on. Are rights as citizens are being violated again!! I am 1 person and 1 person only but am shouting at the top of my lungs and nobody but you guys are listening!! :evil: I called the Republican party yesterday and ripped them a you know what!! I will be voting Democrat unless they get this voter fraud thing under control!! :wink:

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RNC Phone: (202)863.8500

I called the RNC twice yesterday-----using *67 and disguising my voice.

I told them..........If McCain, Guliani, or Huckabee ends up being the nominee----I know thousands of people who will not vote----or will vote for the Dem nominee-----just to screw the RNC like they are screwing US citizens.

He says..........Well, the power is within your hands, you can determine who the nominee becomes.

I said........don't lie to me.......There are thousands of people who are aware that you are using the media to push McCain, Guliani, or Huckabee as the nominee. You used the media to make sure that McCain won in New Hampshire!!! You are using the media to make it sound like Romney doesn't have a chance----and that if he does not win Michigan, he doesn't have a chance----even though he currently has more delegates than anyone else!!

I said......so just think of this.........If Huckabee, McCain or Guliani become the nominee-----imagine how many thousands of people who are going to help the Dems win the election!!

He said.........Read the constitution and hung up on me!!! :) :) :)

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We are in the USA and cannot believe 8O what is goin on. Are rights as citizens are being violated again!! I am 1 person and 1 person only but am shouting at the top of my lungs and nobody but you guys are listening!! :evil: I called the Republican party yesterday and ripped them a you know what!! I will be voting Democrat unless they get this voter fraud thing under control!! :wink:

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RNC Phone: (202)863.8500

I called the RNC twice yesterday-----using *67 and disguising my voice.

I told them..........If McCain, Guliani, or Huckabee ends up being the nominee----I know thousands of people who will not vote----or will vote for the Dem nominee-----just to screw the RNC like they are screwing US citizens.

He says..........Well, the power is within your hands, you can determine who the nominee becomes.

I said........don't lie to me.......There are thousands of people who are aware that you are using the media to push McCain, Guliani, or Huckabee as the nominee. You used the media to make sure that McCain won in New Hampshire!!! You are using the media to make it sound like Romney doesn't have a chance----and that if he does not win Michigan, he doesn't have a chance----even though he currently has more delegates than anyone else!!

I said......so just think of this.........If Huckabee, McCain or Guliani become the nominee-----imagine how many thousands of people who are going to help the Dems win the election!!

He said.........Read the constitution and hung up on me!!! :) :) :)

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Thanks for the phone number. Sounds like the guy might be needing some advil for migrane headaches soon. :lol:

Watch how easy it is to steal votes on these machines!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/how- ... 200693.php

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Watch how easy it is to see how easy to steal votes on these machines!

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This is scary!!! 8O

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Watch how easy it is to see how easy to steal votes on these machines!

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This is scary!!! 8O

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You got that right, and we are suppose to trust this government, the same one who stole two elections and lied to us continuouly for the last 8 years. 8O I don't think so.

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Watch how easy it is to see how easy to steal votes on these machines!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/how- ... 200693.php

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This is scary!!! 8O

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You got that right, and we are suppose to trust this government, the same one who stole two elections and lied to us continuouly for the last 8 years. 8O I don't think so.

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We need to go back to old school counting by hand. With lots of witnesses. :wink:

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Watch how easy it is to see how easy to steal votes on these machines!

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/how- ... 200693.php

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This is scary!!! 8O

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You got that right, and we are suppose to trust this government, the same one who stole two elections and lied to us continuouly for the last 8 years. 8O I don't think so.

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We need to go back to old school counting by hand. With lots of witnesses. :wink:

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Couldn't agree more, if they can recount in florida by hand they can do it the first time by hand. We aren't in that big of a hurry are we?

Seems to me they are the ones in a hurry so we don't know what is happening to us.

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Watch how easy it is to see how easy to steal votes on these machines!

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This is scary!!! 8O

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You got that right, and we are suppose to trust this government, the same one who stole two elections and lied to us continuouly for the last 8 years. 8O I don't think so.

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We need to go back to old school counting by hand. With lots of witnesses. :wink:

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Couldn't agree more, if they can recount in florida by hand they can do it the first time by hand. We aren't in that big of a hurry are we?

Seems to me they are the ones in a hurry so we don't know what is happening to us.

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Absolutely not, I have no problem waiting for this election to be done right!!! I have a real problem with nothing being done to correct what evidently has happened in NH. If they are not stopped can you imagine how corrupt things will get and we will not have a chance in h___ of ever having a good president!

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This is scary!!! 8O

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You got that right, and we are suppose to trust this government, the same one who stole two elections and lied to us continuouly for the last 8 years. 8O I don't think so.

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We need to go back to old school counting by hand. With lots of witnesses. :wink:

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Couldn't agree more, if they can recount in florida by hand they can do it the first time by hand. We aren't in that big of a hurry are we?

Seems to me they are the ones in a hurry so we don't know what is happening to us.

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Absolutely not, I have no problem waiting for this election to be done right!!! I have a real problem with nothing being done to correct what evidently has happened in NH. If they are not stopped can you imagine how corrupt things will get and we will not have a chance in h___ of ever having a good president![/quote:17mm1hzs]

"April" did you read this thread, very interesting and I believe it could be our answer, as this congress will never fix the problem to our satisfaction, we know they have all been bought.

I think we all need to push our states to get this done since our congress can't or should say won't. If we have ever in the life of this country needed to use article V of the constitution it is now! Check it out if you have not read it.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-86817.html

I just read it! :)

I absolutely agree, thanks SOSAD!

This should not be a shocking revelation. Voter Fraud has been around for a long time, and I believe JFK won thru the help of Voter Fraud thru Daddy Joe and corrupt politicians.

I have been noticing alot thru the years in how the media would push for a certain candidate. When the media shoves a particular candidate in our face, well folks that should tell you ....BEWARE.

Remember many of the major media folks are member of the CFR, so it is no shocker that they want to make sure a CFR member wins the White House.

Huckabee, Guillani, Hiliary, Osama, Romney, and the others are member of the CFR or wannabe members of the elite group. The only 2 is Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul.

I think if alot of people went voting in large blocks to Duncan or Paul, you will see "o o the machines are not working and they will try to manipulate toward their favorite CFR person.

If I recall, when Pat Buchanan was running for President, in Arizona I remember very clearly that Pat was leading a large percentage, but then here comes the "O O something went wrong" then about an hour or half or so, it should Pat trailing way behind. I believe the real results were the first one, but the elitist couldn't let that happen.

Do I believe that Bush stole the election...probably....remember even if they are elitist and they carry the same agenda. Democrats and Republicans still fight over who will control us. Pretty much like Stalin, Hitler, Mossalini, Yasar, Pol Pot, Kim Jong all running and fighting for the position, yet their philosphy are very much the same common denominator.

This Boston Globe video and possible voter fraud is alarming. So much for a free country :(

W, Please let us know how we can help.........