Thread: Specter took to the floor to urge decriminalizing illegals

.. why Senator Specter proposal shouldn't be considered?

So far I just heard different versions of "because I don't like any slack being cut to undocumented people".

OK. You are entitled not to like Senator Specters' solution.
Your solution?

Also, can anyone explain to me why immigration transgressions are the "cardinal crime" on this country, outstanding from the thousands of worse crimes committed in this country daily?
Why is it so outrageous letting that many millions of people participate in civil society? Everyone OK with the caste system we have in place today?
Is that legal or moral?

Please, stop the shouting and give me some valid argument. Something, anything.

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www(DOT)itsnofun(DOT)com (An Illegal Alien Website)

Because Americans are running this place and we want the illegal aliens out.

Waaaaaa! Illegal Alein = Criminal and we don't want you here!

Dixie

From
Mongo's web site.

1. I pay a lot of taxes.
[i]Last year I paid 30,000 of income tax alone.[i] As everybody else, including undocumented people, I pay Federal and State VAT. As the majority of undocumented immigrants, I contribute so Social Security but never asked or received SS assistance. It is fair to assume that my work and taxes are supporting the welfare of up to 3 Americans.
1. If not granted some sort of reprieve, I will go underground.

[i]Going back to my home country is out of the question. If Americans don’t grow the political guts to deal with this problem[i] in a comprehensive way at a national level, and this demagogic flurry of hodgepodge state and municipal anti-immigrant laws continues to harass me and my family, I will simply move further into the shadows. If that happens, I will have much less incentive to pay taxes, pay drivers insurance, avoid abusing the health and school system, be a good citizen, etc.
Just try me.

Ramiro,
You paid $30,000 of income tax last year? Hmmmmm….You must be doing one of those jobs Americans just won’t do!

Going back to my home country is out of the question. If Americans don’t grow the political guts to deal with this problem.

Oh I hate to disappoint you Mr.â€

Time to pull out the spray for Mongo......

Will someone please look up the Whois information on Mongo's website

www(DOT)itsnofun(DOT)com (An Illegal Alien Website)

He claims to be an illegal alien. Let's see if we can determine his identity and report him to ICE.

I'll be damned if a foreign national like Mongo is going to try and affect American politics without a fight.

Let's see if we can send Mongo home.

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You guys got it.

Still waiting for someone to produce a valid argument here.
Does anyone of the people so angry a Senator Specter proposal have any better plan?
Do you realize that the statu quo is, for most practical effects, that amnesty you decry so much?
Instead of attacking and threatening me personally, use this resource to discuss the posted subject. This is a discussion group, isn't it?
What is so wrong with Senator Specter's idea, which would encourage up to half of the undocumented population to come forward?


Mongo Aurelio
www.itsnofun.com