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    Start Thinking About A Write In Candidate For '08

    I wanted to share the following exchange I found on another website's forum. I think we should seriously begin to discuss this and how we could get a movement going for a write in candidate. Please share your thoughts and opinions.

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    From immigration and national security forum:

    Obviously we are seeing candidates put forth by both parties who refuse to address the illegal immigration issue in this country so it is time to take matters into our own hands. We should all decided on a person who we think will listen to our demands that the borders be closed first and foremost and some who is a true patriot.

    More and more when I see polls being taken, they only address the issue of the war and do not take into consideration the illegal immigration fiasco. This is even more important to some people as to why they are against President Bush and his party. They simply avoid taking a poll to see which is more important, the war or illegal immigration. I would like to see the outcome of that.

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    With so many active anti-illegal immigration groups throughout the nation and with the internet a write-in candidate for 2008 is a real possibility.

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    We Should Watch Carefully and See who has the courage to scream the loudest, not only about closing the borders, but about deportation and halting immigration for at least five years. This is crucial to bring back order to this country. Someone who does not support the North American Union.

    We can do this and it will put a cog in the wheels of both dems and reps.

    Our federal government has evolved into a monarchy and we let it happen. This is a government of the people supported by the state held together by the federal government but something has gone haywire and we must take it back. The above is the only way to go that I can think of because now they are even tampering with our election machines, which are bought from a Venezuelan company (not friendly) and are not tamper-proof. You know that is just not a co-incidence! Perhaps they want to manipulate our vote so as to give us no voice at all.

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    Go one step further. You have two years. You could get on the ballot in NYS where you have a base then pick a few other states where the ballot laws are easiest to also get on the ballot.

    It's 15,000 signatures to run for Prez in this state. I can draw you up the petition if you have the manpower.

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    I was thinking of someone with experience and name recognition that would perhaps have a chance. Who knows, if the grassroots folks voted for him, and their numbers are legion, and even the disgruntled dems and reps, he might just stand a chance. Wouldn't that be lovely?

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    Remember how some of us worked to do a Tancredo for President write-in campaign in 2004 and then he stuck it in our eye by declaring that he is runnimg for congress and not president and that those votes should go to Bush?

    It must be someone who is willing and when the support starts to grow this person MUST be able to stand up to the sure to come arm twisting by one or both of the major parties to do as Tancredo did. Namely endorse your support over to someone else.

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    Tancredo gets positive vibes in poll

    By M.E. Sprengelmeyer, Rocky Mountain News
    August 23, 2006

    Someone like Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo could do surprisingly well in the 2008 Republican presidential contest, a unique "blind bio" poll found.

    With two years to go before the two major parties’ presidential nominating conventions, the polling outfit Zogby International decided to do something different this summer to gauge the strength of the would-be candidates.

    The pollsters didn’t ask about candidates by name. Instead, they read brief biographies of various would-be contenders and then asked people to pick their favorites.

    Tancredo, the Littleton Republican dubbed "Candidate J," finished fourth on the Republican side with 9.9 percent of the tally.

    He finished behind "Candidate G," former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia, with 21.4 percent; Sen. John McCain of Arizona, 13.3 percent; and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, 11.2 percent.

    The results, first reported by U.S. News & World Report, put Tancredo ahead of GOP contenders like Sen Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, 6.1 percent; Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, 5.8 percent; Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, 5.6 percent; Sen. George Allen of Virginia, 4.9 percent; Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, 4.3 percent; Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, 3.8 percent; and New York Gov. George Pataki, 2.8 percent.

    About Tancredo, poll participants were told: "Candidate J is a four-term Congressman from a swing state in the Midwest. Candidate J is best known of being an outspoken critic of illegal immigration. He has also been highly critical of the Bush administration’s guest worker plan. Before coming to Congress, Candidate J was a Department of Education official under Reagan and George H.W. Bush and was president of a conservative think tank."

    Tancredo spokesman Carlos Espinosa laughed about one part of the biography.

    "Last time we checked, Colorado was in the West, not the Midwest," Espinosa said.

    Some pollsters, including Zogby, categorize Colorado in the Midwest, like neighboring Kansas.

    Tancredo has toyed with the idea of running for president in 2008 as a way to advance his agenda opposing illegal immigration. He has made exploratory trips to key battleground states like Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, although he knows he would have little if no chance to win the White House.

    Espinosa laughed off the new poll.

    "He’s focused on his re-election campaign now, if anything," he said. "We’ll see what happens afterwards."

    The poll had some surprising results on the Democratic side. Without her name being mentioned, presumed front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton finished sixth in a bunched-up field led by Virginia Gov. Mark Warner.

    About Clinton, a.k.a. "Candidate I," respondents were told that she could be the first woman elected president, and that, "Since being elected to the Senate, Candidate I has kept a low profile and often reached across the aisle, despite being a big name and polarizing figure before entering elective office."

    Warner led all Democrats with 14.8 percent, followed by: retired Gen. Wesley Clark, 14.2 percent; Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, 12.2 percent; Sen. Evan Bayh, 11.1 percent; former Senator and vice-presidential contender John Edwards, 10.4 percent; Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, 5.6 percent; New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, 5.3 percent; former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, 4.9 percent; former presidential nominee and Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, 4.9 percent; Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, 3 percent; and Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, 2.8 percent.

    The poll, conducted in late June, had a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.

    Copyright 2006, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.

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    We Should Watch Carefully and See who has the courage to scream the loudest, not only about closing the borders, but about deportation and halting immigration for at least five years. This is crucial to bring back order to this country. Someone who does not support the North American Union.
    I've been thinking the same, and I'm sure most everyone has. We've got to find someone to stick up for middle class America.

    Well, we know how he feels about the border and halting immigration, so I think Jeff Sessions is a possibility. He's definitely a vocal man who speaks up even when he knows he's in the minority vote. I doubt that he supports SPP. Here's his website, just a suggestion:

    www.sessions.senate.gov
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    Well, we know how he feels about the border and halting immigration, so I think Jeff Sessions is a possibility.
    I was thinking the same thing, even before reading your post. Day by day I watched the senate floor on C-Span as S. 2611 was developed and voted on. Sen. Sessions was, by far, the most outspoken individual on the floor regarding anti-illegal immigrant issues. Sure, there were a few others that tried to stop the travesty (S. 2611) from happening, but most of them waivered on one point or another, but not Sen. Sessions. He was consistent and very vocal in his attempt to convince the senate on the errors of their thinking.

    Whereas Tom Tancredo would be a great spokesman for our cause, I don't think he is as articulate or convincing as Sen. Sessions. In other words, I think Sen. Sessions would have more luck converting pro-illegal immigrant followers into our fold. He is very good at making his point (probably where his lawyer experience pays off). Tancredo on the other hand is considered a one issue pony by many and extreme by others. I would vote on a Sen. Sessions/Rep. Tancredo ticket in a second. Could you, even for a minute, imagine the boost our cause would get by having a President Sessions & Vice President Tancredo? All I could say is WOW! wink:

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    I like that idea. I've called Sessions offices leaving messages that he should consider.
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    chloe24,
    WOW. This idea is spreading fast.

    First it must be a willing candidate.
    Some of us worked to do a Tancredo for President write-in campaign in 2004 and then he stuck it in our eye by declaring that he is runnimg for congress and not president and that those votes should go to Bush.

    It must be someone who is willing and when the support starts to grow this person MUST be able to stand up to the sure to come arm twisting by one or both of the major parties to do as Tancredo did. Namely endorse your support over to someone else.

    So the candidte must be right on the issue, willing to be written in and able to stand up to the heat and arm-twisting that will surely happen when supports starts to grow.

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    I like that idea. I've called Sessions offices leaving messages that he should consider.
    Good on you, I think I'm going to do the same thing - right now. Well, I'm going to send him an email anyway. I would recommend everyone do the same thing. The man at least needs to explore his opportunities for the presidency.

    I highly recommend everyone on ALIPAC go to Sen. Sessions website and find out more about the man:

    http://www.sessions.senate.gov/

    I think you'll like what you see. Please email him with a request to consider the presidency.

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    I've been thinking the same thing. I wrote to the RNC after the Senate 2611 disaster and told them I'd never support McCain and that they should consider someone of character and someone who speaks their mind, like Sessions. I also wrote to Sessions to urge him to consider running. I too watched some of the 2611 senate floor discussions and agree that he is smart, very well-spoken, is persuasive, keeps his cool and is very diplomatic when dealing with those on the other side. All great qualities.

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    kate wrote:

    I've been thinking the same thing. I wrote to the RNC after the Senate 2611 disaster and told them I'd never support McCain and that they should consider someone of character and someone who speaks their mind, like Sessions.
    Great idea, I'm going to do that too! It will be a cold day in he$$ before Sen. John "lettuce man" McCain gets this registered Republicans vote.

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    If you go with a Republican who is not the Republican ballot nominee he may pull a Tancredo and all of our work would be wasted.

    Some of us worked to do a Tancredo for President write-in campaign in 2004 and then he stuck it in our eye by declaring that he is runnimg for congress and not president and that those votes should go to Bush.

    It must be someone who is willing and when the support starts to grow this person MUST be able to stand up to the sure to come arm twisting by one or both of the major parties to do as Tancredo did. Namely endorse your support over to someone else.

    So the candidte must be right on the issue, willing to be written in and able to stand up to the heat and arm-twisting that will surely happen when supports starts to grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate
    I wrote to the RNC after the Senate 2611 disaster and told them I'd never support McCain and that they should consider someone of character and someone who speaks their mind, like Sessions.
    I'll do the same....let's get something rolling!
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