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    States Poised to Break Record on Immigration Measures

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    States Poised to Break Record on Immigration Measures
    By Elizabeth Llorente
    Published January 27, 2011

    A hat sticker and sign carried by members of the Mississippi Immigrants Rights Alliance at a news conference and rally at the Capitol in Jackson, Miss.

    It's only the beginning of January, and state legislators have already introduced more than 600 immigration measures and resolutions -- about 50 percent of the number that was introduced in all of 2010, the National Conference of State Legislatures told Fox News Latino.

    That announcements comes a few weeks after the NCLS released a report revealing that last year, states enacted a record number -- 346 -- of bills and resolutions on immigration issues. They saw 1,400 immigration bills and resolutions introduced in 2010, says Ann Morse, program director for NCLS.

    NCLS says that every state that had a regular legislative session last year considered immigration measures, a trend that seems on course to be repeated this year, when every day one or more states seems to be taking up the issue. More than a dozen states are not even in session yet, Morse says.

    Experts on immigration say the trend reflects mounting frustration among state officials and residents over illegal immigration, and the failure of Congress and the White House to properly address it.

    "There's a profusion of these activities, state bills [on immigration], that we haven't seen before," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington D.C. think tank that favors strict immigration policies. "Illegal immigration has reached a large magnitude, and it's also spread."

    Indeed, Arizona became the symbol of state-level frustration over the nation's broken immigration system when it enacted a law last year authorizing local police to enforce immigration law and making it a crime to be in the state as an illegal immigrant. Arizona's law is facing several court challenges regarding constitutionality. Nonetheless, legislators in numerous other states have introduced -- or announced intentions to introduce -- Arizona-style laws aimed at driving illegal immigrants out.

    Even states such as Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky and Virginia, for instance -- normally not thought of as places where illegal immigration would be an issue -- are considering bills that seek to crack down on undocumented immigrants. More than a dozen are considering bills that would deny automatic citizenship to U.S.-born babies of undocumented immigrants, a move that opponents of the measure say violates the 14th Amendment.

    "Every state is now a border state, really," said Krikorian. "Every town is a border town in a way that wasn't true 15 or even 10 years ago, when it was mostly an issue in places like California. Now illegal immigration is everywhere. Georgia and North Carolina are even in the top 10 of states with the most illegal immigrants."

    Efforts to pass immigration bills failed during the Bush Administration, when it seemed that a bill by Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, and late Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, stood a chance of becoming law. But despite a hard push by President Bush, who lobbied for the bill through telephone calls to members of both parties, and a flurry of meetings between Republicans and Democrats in Congress, the bill failed.

    Democrats wanted a bill that would include a pathway to legalization for undocumented immigrants who qualified under a certain set of criteria, but many Republicans objected, saying it was a form of amnesty and a reward for lawbreakers that would only generate more illegal immigration.

    President Obama campaigned on a pledge to push for comprehensive immigration reform that would both strengthen border security and interior enforcement, and provide ways for eligible undocumented immigrants to legalize their status.

    Advocates for a loosening of restrictions for illegal immigrants thought they stood their best chance, given a Democrat in the White House, and Democrats in control of the House and Senate. But efforts to pass comprehensive immigration reform failed even under those circumstances.

    Indeed, a last-ditch attempt to pass a bill, the DREAM Act, which would have allowed undocumented youth to obtain conditional legal status if they met a strict set of criteria -- including good moral character, having come to the United States before the age of 16, and two years in college or the military -- passed the House but failed to get enough votes in the Senate to go to the floor for a vote.

    "State legislatures will continue to step forward and create local solutions without comprehensive immigration legislation," said NCSL Executive Director William Pound in a recent statement. "In the long term, immigration policy requires federal reform."

    Republicans, who now are in control of the House, vow to push for laws that will emphasize enforcement, and not grant breaks to the undocumented. They say that at a time of financial crisis in the United States, when millions of Americans are unemployed, the United States must crack down on illegal immigrants, who they say take jobs away from U.S. citizens and legal immigrants, and are a drain on the economy through their use of public services.

    But such bills are likely to face resistance in the Senate, where the Democrats still have a majority.

    So for now, seeing no solution in the short-term, state officials are introducing bills that would allow them to take immigration into their own hands, and that worries proponents of plans that would help the undocumented adjust their immigration status. They say such bills increase tensions among residents and encourage racial and ethnic profiling. They argue that the economy is helped by undocumented workers who do jobs they say Americans won't do, even in a time of high unemployment.

    "We're just as frustrated that the government has failed in responsibility on immigration," said Elena Lacayo, immigration field coordinator for the National Council of La Raza, a Latino civil rights group in Washington D.C. "But these peacemeal approaches, states and local jurisdictions just taking matters into their own hands is not the solution."

    "These [state] bills are not constitutional because they usurp powers that belong to the federal government in terms of enforcing immigration laws," Lacayo said. "They're also very costly to the states in terms of litigation, defending these unconstitional bills before the courts. We can't have a patchwork of laws and regulations that don't match one another."

    An estimated 11 million people are believed to be living in the United States illegally.

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    The states are taking up the battles that the Feds under OBAMA have failed to do. Pressure is coming from the REAL AMERICANS, states, and from within the political parties as well to have tighter borders, more strict laws that will allow law enforcement to arrest and remove illegals from our communities and schools. The Feds now need to look into sheriffs and officers who openly have said that they will not enforce immigration laws. Those officers need to be removed and decertified as they are not fit to enforce the law. Latino press needs to start to print the fact that DREAMS are not coming, AMNISTY is not an option, ARREST and DEPORTATION is REALITY. AMERICA is NOT going to tollerate illegals taking over OUR country.

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    It's about damn time!
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    Don't get your hopes up

    As I stated many times on this site

    The states can file many bills , they do , Many are tough , real world and
    designed to stop illegal immigration , or at least make it very uncomfortable for them to be here.

    BUT

    In the long run MOST of these bills never get a hearing , never get a vote and even if they did they would and do get veto'd by the state govs

    Its nice to be optimistic but don't fool yourself , If 20 states go after Arizona style laws , maybe, maybe one might get close to a watered down version

    We are kidding ourselves if we think anything is going to change any time soon

    Even states that do pass such laws get their butts sued off by the advo groups like la raza and the aclu , They just don't have the cash to pay the hired mouthpieces. And if a lib idiot judge gets the case its over, We all know maldef and the rest know full well how to judge shop.

    The reconquista is advancing full tilt , they know our laws , they know how to turn them against us and use them to their favor.

    Until that changes , you better start learning spanish

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    well I am not learning Spanish
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    Missouri has had a Arizona style law since 07, so I'm not getting it, DOJ hasn't went after them! And now there is proof the DOJ was in collusion with the ACLU, which is strictly forbidden!
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    Your right Justthefacts. It is unlikely many of these states will actually get their laws through and upheld. With an administration all for the illegal movement and some liberal judges its a real hard fight. This is why its extremely important to make sure in 2012 we have a hardcase GOP runner who wants a heavy handed crackdown. None of these current frontrunners have the balls to do it and a few of them are favoring illegals. None of them either seem to want to touch the topic with a 30 foot pole even.

    In honesty our best hope is likely through managing an independant or a Tea Party candidate non GOP or Dem but who sides with conservatives still. The GOP won't let anyone who's hardlined against illegals be a contended because the institution is still corrupt at the core just wanting to do minor stuff until it feels it can gather those votes.

    I like many others really want to know what else we can really do besides spreading the word to friends who often just go about their business and the odd fax, call, and vote. Whats really needed is massive protests and marches against but doing so for working Americans isn't easy.

    For instance 2 days ago I was talking to a few friends on the issue at a small social gathering. 1 of them said their was a problem and others just said they haven't noticed much of anything as they are so wrapped up in their own little personal lives to look around. They all told me however that there is nothing they can do and they are powerless so why fight it. I kept telling them thats the core of the problem that to many Americans assume we can't fix any of these problems so why even bother and they just narrow their vision and try and not see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts
    Don't get your hopes up

    As I stated many times on this site

    The states can file many bills , they do , Many are tough , real world and
    designed to stop illegal immigration , or at least make it very uncomfortable for them to be here.

    BUT

    In the long run MOST of these bills never get a hearing , never get a vote and even if they did they would and do get veto'd by the state govs

    Its nice to be optimistic but don't fool yourself , If 20 states go after Arizona style laws , maybe, maybe one might get close to a watered down version

    We are kidding ourselves if we think anything is going to change any time soon

    Even states that do pass such laws get their butts sued off by the advo groups like la raza and the aclu , They just don't have the cash to pay the hired mouthpieces. And if a lib idiot judge gets the case its over, We all know maldef and the rest know full well how to judge shop.

    The reconquista is advancing full tilt , they know our laws , they know how to turn them against us and use them to their favor.

    Until that changes , you better start learning spanish
    I hear ya. But I think over the really long haul, if we just NEVER give up, we can win. If you can't move the whole mountain, then move it stone by stone. And stone by stone, we will MOVE THAT MOUNTAIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uniteasone
    well I am not learning Spanish
    I AM WITH YOU!! This is OUR COUNTRY. This is OUR CULTURE. No way I am stepping aside...NO WAY. I am not even leaving California. NOPE. I was born here, it is MINE. And I am STAYING. I speak ENGLISH, not spanish. I am CALIFORNIAN and that is not going to change. I will fight no matter how long it takes. Just saying....
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