Thread: Stop Illegals' offspring from obtaining U.S. Citizenship

Why do we in the U.S. automatically let illegal aliens' children get U.S. nationality (if born in the USA) and then have access to and put a huge drain on our public resources including education, medical, law enforcement and public services?

I emigrated to the USA from England in the 90's and became a US citizen in 1997.

In England we found in the 70's that people wanting to exploit a loophole in the law to stay in the UK illegally were coming over to the U.K., having children there, and then staying over claiming their children's British citizenship as the reason.

The Brits passed a law (and I am not acquainted intimately with all the details) that disallowed anyone from claiming British citizenship when their kids were born in UK unless they themselves were there legally either as a resident or a citizen. Currently, (In general), since 1 January 1983, it has been possible to acquire British citizenship automatically:

(a) by birth in the UK to a parent who is either a British citizen or settled in the UK under immigration law;

(b) by adoption in the UK by a British citizen parent;

(c) by birth outside the UK to a parent who is a British citizen "otherwise than by descent";

(d) by birth outside the UK to a British citizen parent in Crown, Designated or European Community service.

If we could pass a similar law, then no illegal alien children of illegal aliens could be staying over here 'legally', draining our country of medical, educational and all kinds of other resources that will eventually mean a really hard time for our descendants, not to mention all kinds of other complications like changes in culture, language etc. This law in the U.K. takes away no rights of LEGAL citizens but for sure does NOT ALLOW illegal aliens to get away with unfairly infringing upon Britain.

So my qn to those more knowledgeable in matters of US law, constitution is what would it take to pass a law like that? That kind of law could with an ability to deport illegals would start to stem this unwanted tide of change. Would we need some kind of an amendment?

There is much we can learn from 'older' countries tactics used in limiting illegal immigration or making it unrewarding for law breakers. Automatically obtaining citizenship for offspring of illegal aliens is a strong driver and motivator for many illegals. Even if they cannot get citizenship rapidly, their children can.

And their children become eligible for all kinds of benefits which is surely one of the biggest advantages for the illegals to come over here and have children. Of course, in time, these same children born here as U.S. citizens will then add their voices to a democratic process (that cannot of course differentiate between U.S. citizens) and steer the USA ship in a direction even more favorable towards their illegal parents and other illegals.

This process could eventually spell an exponential end to many of the amazing achievements, infrastructure and liberties that we enjoy today as a result of our resources, culture and common language, interests.

There's been legislation drafted in the House of Representatives by Rep. Miller, a Republican from Michigan, I believe. It revokes the citizenship status of "anchor babies". I think it is retroactive, as well. That's probably going to be the sticking point that prevents it from going through.

WELCOME TO ALIPAC, Pixeldoctor!!

Thanks, rebel, for posting the fact about the Anchor Babies law.

EVERYONE!! Please take note of what they did in England 22 years ago to deal with this "fraud" to gain citizenship. They OUTLAWED IT!!

Isn't it time America started acting like the "sensible" country it is?

Long past due.

Wake Up America!

Start houding your reps and sens to pass the Anchor Babies Law and grind this Nonsense to a HALT!!

Pixeldoctor: Do you still have friends and family in the UK? If so, you need to bring them into the loop of ALIPAC. We desperately need information from Europe and we need the support of the Brits, French and others as we commence our House Cleaning and GET AMERICA BACK ON TRACK in accordance with our Ideals and our Laws.

We need international support from our friends around the world as we undertake a very big job.

Thanks!!

The whole anchor baby thing came out of obscure law from way back when which was originally meant, if I recall correctly, to allow freed slaves to become citizens if they had a child here. I wish I could remember the details--but what I do remember is that the Law was and still is being taken out of context and applied to a situation it was never intended to affect.

How is this bill doing?

I have not heard from this bill in a long time.

I do hope we get this ancor babie problem fixed.

BobC--it was to protect children born to American Citizens under the jurisdiction of the United States Constitution when the American Citizen might still be a citizen of another country or considered same by the nation they left. I don't believe it actually had anything to do with slaves. It was to ensure that the posterity of Americans remained American and protected their wealth as American and to protect them from other nations trying to come get them and take them back to the old country, like the off spring of communist defectors for example.

It was NEVER intended to apply to illegal aliens as illegal aliens are not under our jurisdiction to begin with but under the jurisdiction of the nation where they are a citizen.

MAMIE has posted quite alot about it, but until you are invited or approved to be here, you are not under our Jurisdiction and actually have no rights at all of any kind....as it should be....and remain so forever.

Hi Judy--I recall listening to some guest on either Terry Anderson or the John and Ken Show and he definately laid out the legal groundwork on the anchor baby thing and it dated back to a law created to help non-citizen black slaves become legal citizens. Not sure if it's accurate.

Can anybody help?

OOOOOH Goody--I was right:
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/is ... abies.html

Hmmm....I think we're mixing two separate issues. Blacks were given citizenship same as any American unless they were slaves. During the civil war, they were freed and became American Citizens. They didn't have voting rights, but neither did women, but we were still Citizens. Perhaps there has been more than one issue arise with the children of non-citizens that I'm not aware of.

In any event, as BobC requests, anyone who knows the history, please post it.

Whatever it was for then, it was not for this batch of breeders.

Right, Miss Judy. I think if we reward people for breeding here we are asking for a population explosion which we sure as hell don't need/