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    TED CRUZ CAMPAIGN HIT AGAIN, NEW 'BIRTHER' LAWSUIT FILED IN NEW YORK

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    ROBERT SOBEL


    TED CRUZ CAMPAIGN HIT AGAIN, NEW 'BIRTHER' LAWSUIT FILED IN NEW YORK

    Ted Cruz recently criticized Donald Trump's "New York values," but it appears he might have his own problem in the Big Apple.


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    The never-ending legal challenges against Texas Sen. Ted Cruz don't appear to be going away anytime soon. No presidential candidate in recent history has had to be hit with reoccurring lawsuits against them, but the senator from Texas can't seem to catch a break. As the New York Daily News reported on Friday, a lawsuit has been filed in New York challenging whether or not Cruz is eligible to run for president.


    Non-stop legal problems


    Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada in Dec. 1970.

    Due to his Canadian birth and citizenship, questions have continued to haunt the presidential hopeful, asking if he is legally allowed to run for President of the United States. Over the last two months, multiple lawsuits have been filed in different states around the country, all claiming that the Tea Party favorite is "constitutionally ineligible" to become commander in chief.


    The latest lawsuit was filed at the Manhattan Supreme Court in New York City on Thursday, attempting to remove the senator from the state election ballot.

    The two plaintiffs, 81-year-old Barry Korman, and 85-year-old William Gallo, state that Cruz "publicly admitted that he was born in Canada" and that according to New York State law, he doesn't "meet the constitutional or statutory qualifications" to make a run for the White House. In an ironic turn of events, it was Cruz's attack on GOP front runner Donald Trump's "New York Values" that only added fuel to the feud between the two.


    Snowball effect

    The lawsuit comes at the same time attorney Lawrence Joyce of Illinois had his case against Cruz heard in Crook County Circuit Court in Chicago. According to the Associated Press, Cruz's legal team filed a suit to dismiss Joyce's challenge, which Judge Maureen Ward Kirby set a hearing for on March 1.

    Earlier this year, Cruz found himself in more legal trouble as other filings against him took place in Texas by 85-year-old Newton B. Schwartz, as well as in Alabama by a group of plaintiffs. The consensus is that Cruz will weather the storm, but his campaign has shown signs of wear and tear. Donald Trump has also made the "birther" issue a central theme in his attacks, going as far threatening to sue over the eligibility.

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    RUBIO is an ANCHOR BABY = NO CITIZEN PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I went to school "way back" when we actually learned something and we were taught that NBC means 2 CITIZEN Parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a higher standard than just "citizen"

    Why isn't anyone picking this same fight with Rubio???????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad View Post
    RUBIO is an ANCHOR BABY = NO CITIZEN PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I went to school "way back" when we actually learned something and we were taught that NBC means 2 CITIZEN Parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a higher standard than just "citizen"

    Why isn't anyone picking this same fight with Rubio???????????????
    RUBIO FIGHTS OFF 'BIRTHER' LAWSUIT IN FLORIDA

    Senator under fire for 'natural-born citizen' standard

    Published: 01/15/2016 at 6:17 AMimage: http://www.wnd.com/files/2014/07/cchumley_avatar.jpg
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    Sen. Marco Rubio

    Sen. Ted Cruz isn’t the only Republican candidate fighting off accusations about his birth status and whether he qualifies for the presidency – Sen. Marco Rubio is actually facing a lawsuit on the same.


    Michael Voeltz, a Fort Lauderdale resident, fileda suit against Rubio, alleging the Florida senator – who’s coming in third in national polls, behind Cruz and first-place Donald Trump – fails to comply with the Supreme Court definition of “natural-born citizen,” Breitbart reported.


    Rubio’s campaign responded with a request for the court to dismiss the “birther” claims.

    “Rubio filed a motion to dismiss … [The complaint] show that Rubio’s legal team spent considerable time researching the issue. ‘Senator Rubio is a natural born citizen of the United States and he is eligible to be president of the United States,’ it concludes. … [The complaint] confirmed his parents were given citizenship in 1975. Rubio at the time said he did not know why his parents waited,” reported the Tampa Bay Times.


    The filing also indicated Rubio’s parents came to the United States in 1956. Rubio was born on May 28, 1971, a few years before his parents were given citizenship.

    Cruz has been fighting off charges he’s not a natural-born citizen of the United States because he was born in Alberta, Canada, to a mother who was an American citizen. Cruz actually held dual citizenship as a Canadian and American until June 2014, when he renounced his Canadian ties.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad View Post
    RUBIO is an ANCHOR BABY = NO CITIZEN PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I went to school "way back" when we actually learned something and we were taught that NBC means 2 CITIZEN Parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a higher standard than just "citizen"

    Why isn't anyone picking this same fight with Rubio???????????????
    Vermont Voter Files Lawsuit to Keep Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio Off Vermont Presidential Primary Ballots


    Posted on January 4, 2016 by Richard Winger


    Early in December 2015, Vermont voter H. Brooke Paige filed a lawsuit in state court against the Vermont Secretary of State, arguing that the Secretary of State has a duty to investigate the qualifications of presidential candidates before placing them on the March presidential primary ballots. Paige does not believe that Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio are eligible because of their parents’ citizenship status. See this story. The case is Paige v Condos, in Superior Court, Washington County, 780-12-15.

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    Natural born citizen = Born in the USA to 2 US Citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandmasmad View Post
    RUBIO is an ANCHOR BABY = NO CITIZEN PARENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I went to school "way back" when we actually learned something and we were taught that NBC means 2 CITIZEN Parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a higher standard than just "citizen"

    Why isn't anyone picking this same fight with Rubio???????????????
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    Now Marco Rubio has his own 'birther' problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Natural born citizen = Born in the USA to 2 US Citizens.
    Not true. According to the Immigration and Nationality Act passed by the U.S. Congress in 1952, a person born to one U.S. citizen can be a natural born citizen, assuming that individual meets all the requirements as set forth in the law.

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    The Constitution trumps Immigration and Nationality Act passed by US Congress in 1952. It's almost comical how this continued repetition of INS law is used to argue for Cruz when it proves the argument against him. If citizenship is granted by a "law", then you are not a natural born citizen under Article II of the US Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    The Constitution trumps Immigration and Nationality Act passed by US Congress in 1952. US law doesn't amend the Constitution, US law doesn't change the meaning or superiority of the Constitution. Every American knows that. Furthermore, there is no language at all of any kind anywhere in the US Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 that defines a natural born citizen. It defines a citizen by birth, something very different than a natural born citizen who is a mix of nature, blood and soil.

    Natural born citizen = Born in the USA to 2 US Citizens. That's why Obama, Cruz and Rubio are not natural born citizens and why none of them are eligible to hold the office of President of the United States. As to McCain, I do not believe he is, because he was born in Panama. Does his birth on or near a US military base change the Constitutional requirement? I don't think so, but some do. Trump seems to think that's an allowable distinction. But it really isn't because the birth is still overseas in a foreign country, whether it's on or near US government property doesn't change the sovereignty of the soil which is Panama, not the United States.

    I think Americans are going to see the parallel between non-natural born citizens and natural born citizens. All 4 of these candidates support open borders and free trade. Yes, under political pressure, they refine their pitch to make it sound like they support something else, they call it "poison pill" in the case of Cruz which is really his own poison who considers deporting illegal aliens Nazism (jack boots). Even Bush because of his marriage to a Mexican woman and being educated in Mexico for a spell is all enamored with speaking Spanish in the home, his children are half Mexican, and he thinks illegal aliens are coming here as "acts of love".

    The poison is in their bones. They're toxic for the United States. It's amazing really that our Founders were so astute to know this would be the case and why they clearly decided to disqualify them from the highest 2 offices in the US government. And rightly so.
    It has been well established that the U.S. Constitution is not clear on the subject. Knowing that as a fact makes it acceptable to write law concerning the said subject. The law is the law and arguing for something ambiguous from 1986 just isn't going to change that.

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    Please don't make me laugh any more. US law does NOT clarify the Constitution. The Constitution clarifies the law. There is no dispute. The law does what it does concerning legally granted citizenship and has absolutely nothing to do with Article II of the US Constitution. The "law" doesn't clarify it, it doesn't define it, it doesn't rule it. The "law" is as irrelevant to who can run for President under the US Constitution as the last bunch of radishes you bought for your dinner salad.

    And every informed American knows that.

    Natural born citizen = Born on US soil to 2 US citizen parents.

    Birthright citizenship overseas is not natural born citizenship.

    14th Amendment citizenship is not natural born citizenship.

    Naturalized citizenship is not natural born citizenship.

    Anchor babies are not natural born citizens.

    Canadian citizens are not natural born citizens of the United States.

    Children of 1 or 2 Cuban citizens are not natural born citizens of the United States.

    Children of foreign men are not natural born citizens of the United States.

    Lesson: If you want to breed a President or Vice President of the US, be a US citizen, mate with a US citizen and give birth in the United States. Pretty simple stuff. Otherwise, Congress is as high as they'll go, and frankly, I believe we need to revisit that one and make members of Congress be natural born citizens too. That would require a Constitutional Amendment or Americans just voting for natural born citizens. In fact that would be a great bumper sticker:

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