Thread: Tillerson argued with a second White House aide

I'd say the evidence is pretty compelling that Rex Tillerson is just another 'big ole gator' in the swamp.

Originally Posted by MW

The excerpt I povided above shows clearly that the increased refugee number had nothing to do with the court order. That sounds like it's all on Tillerson.

"Although it came the same day as an appeals court ruling that rejected government efforts to limit travel to the United States from six predominantly Muslim nations, the move by the State Department had nothing to do with the court ruling."

It didn't come the same day, it came the day after the court order. I understand you don't like Tillerson, but when court issues an order and the administration adjusts policy to comply with that, that is not a coincidence. Doesn't matter any more, the court order has been lifted, the numbers reduced and I think we're done for the year because we've already reached or have almost reached the 50,000 cap.

We'll find out soon enough.

As long as we are out of being responsible for building and guarding safe zones - AMEN! No need for "refugees" coming here - game over. EU nations Sweden, etc do not need rapist iraqi & sryians defecating on their lawns either. Never touch the left hand of those from those areas - that is their toilet paper.

Russia may deploy military in Syrian buffer zones within weeks

ByREUTERS
July 4, 2017 18:57

ASTANA - Russia may deploy its military to police the borders of planned de-escalation zones in Syria within two to three weeks after finalizing an agreement with Turkey and Iran, Russian negotiator Alexander Lavrentyev said on Tuesday.

Moscow, Ankara and Tehran are yet to agree the details of the plan, he told reporters after a series of meetings in the Kazakh capital, Astana.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/R...n-weeks-498749

Originally Posted by Judy

It didn't come the same day, it came the day after the court order. I understand you don't like Tillerson, but when court issues an order and the administration adjusts policy to comply with that, that is not a coincidence. Doesn't matter any more, the court order has been lifted, the numbers reduced and I think we're done for the year because we've already reached or have almost reached the 50,000 cap.

We'll find out soon enough.

"Although it came the same day as an appeals court ruling that rejected government efforts to limit travel to the United States from six predominantly Muslim nations, the move by the State Department had nothing to do with the court ruling."

Those aren't my words. Those words are printed in several articles I've read lately. A link to one of them was posted earlier in this thread. Tillerson alone raised the refugee numbers without regards to the court ourder.

Tillerson is clearly a DC swamp creature rep for Exxon! Exxon and the US Chamber of Commerce and all these Goldmann Sachs appointees Trump has made to this cabinet and staff are pro open borders pro amnesty sellouts. Donald Trump has clearly made no effort to pick reprentatives that share the messages he promsed the American public on immigration and other issues of reducing DC corruption.

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Tillerson is clearly a DC swamp creature rep for Exxon! Exxon and the US Chamber of Commerce and all these Goldmann Sachs appointees Trump has made to this cabinet and staff are pro open borders pro amnesty sellouts. Donald Trump has clearly made no effort to pick reprentatives that share the messages he promsed the American public on immigration and other issues of reducing DC corruption.

W

Yep, what he said.

May 23, 2017, 3:31 p.m.
Washington

Proposed budget would deeply cut State Department and its programs

Tracy Wilkinson

The State Department leadership voiced support for President Trump's proposed budget, which would impose deep cuts on spending for diplomacy and foreign aid, but critics vowed to fight to restore the funds in Congress.

In a statement, the department said the president's $37.6-billion request for it and for the U.S. Agency for International Development would support "a leaner, more efficient government" in line with Trump's "America first" mantra.

If approved by Congress, that would represent a reduction of roughly 30% from the current fiscal year.

Nongovernmental agencies that receive State Department support to carry out humanitarian and other work around the globe expressed deep alarm.

The State Department statement said its new priorities would include efforts to counter terrorism, support Israel, promote border security and battle transnational crime and the spread of infectious diseases.

The statement makes no mention of women-empowerment programs or efforts to fight climate change, issues that rose to prominence under the Obama administration.

The proposed budget would allow the United States to "remain engaged" in the United Nations, but officials would seek a "more fair distribution of the funding burden," the statement said.

And it would eliminate "direct funding for quasi- and non-governmental organizations that serve niche missions."

The American Jewish World Service, which fights poverty all over the world through 450 local organizations, said much of its work would be jeopardized.

"At a time when poverty, human rights abuses, famines and conflicts are wreaking havoc globally," said the group's president, Robert Bank, "the United States must not abdicate its long bipartisan tradition of providing development assistance and diplomatic support to the most vulnerable people around the world."

Mercy Corps, a U.S.-based development and advocacy organization that works in 40 countries, said "gutting development programs" was "short-sighted" and "absolutely shameful" and could put millions of lives at risk.

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), ranking member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, called the budget "cruel and mean-spirited" and said it would force the United States to abandon "our global role as a champion for freedom, democracy and the rule of law."

“If President Trump thinks the United States can shrink into a defensive crouch without long-term repercussions, he's sorely mistaken," Engel said.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/wash...htmlstory.html

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Rex Tillerson is on board 100% with the Trump America First Agenda. He wouldn't have been selected as Secretary of State otherwise. He's a Texan born and raised, he's worked his way up through one of our largest corporations in the world to its top spot as a middle-class American, engineering graduate from a public state university, the University of Texas, there's not a globalist, open borders fiber in this man's body.. Tillerson even curtailed refugee admissions after the court order was issued to raise them back up to Obama levels by slowing down the process until the court order was lifted by the US Supreme Court.

Judy wrote:

Rex Tillerson is on board 100% with the Trump America First Agenda. He wouldn't have been selected as Secretary of State otherwise. He's a Texan born and raised, he's worked his way up through one of our largest corporations in the world to its top spot as a middle-class American, engineering graduate from a public state university, the University of Texas, there's not a globalist, open borders fiber in this man's body.. Tillerson even curtailed refugee admissions after the court order was issued to raise them back up to Obama levels by slowing down the process until the court order was lifted by the US Supreme Court.

If Tillerson is on board 100% with Trump than Trump has been misleading us. Of course that would be no surprise because Trump hired Secretary Kelly for DHS and he (trump) promised he was going to end DACA immediately. I guess we all see how that went. Trump, just like Kelly, is DACA supporter.

Being Texas born does not mean you can't be a globalist or open border supporter. There are plenty of globalist and open border fanatics from Texas. As for curtailing refugee admissions .... well, you're obviously getting your news from a different source than we are.

Excerpt:

The New York Times is reporting that the State Department will nearly double the rate of refugee admissions to the United States for the balance of FY 2017, from the current rate of 830 per week to 1,500 per week.

“Despite repeated efforts by President Trump to curtail refugee resettlements, the State Department this week quietly lifted the department’s restriction on the number of refugees allowed to enter the United States,” the Times reported on Friday.

The result could be a near doubling of refugees entering the country, from about 830 people a week in the first three weeks of this month to well over 1,500 people per week by next month, according to refugee advocates. Tens of thousands of refugees are waiting to come to the United States.

The State Department’s decision was conveyed in an email on Thursday to the private agencies in countries around the world that help refugees manage the nearly two-year application process needed to enter the United States.
In her email, Jennifer L. Smith, a department official, wrote that the refugee groups could begin bringing people to the United States “unconstrained by the weekly quotas that were in place.”

It is unclear if the State Department made this upward adjustment with the knowledge and approval of President Trump. The Department of Justice, however, was apparently consulted.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ce-of-fy-2017/

It's time we be honest with ourselves and realize that all of Trump's cabinet position hires aren't exactly on board with the agenda he sold us during his campaign. Some of the hires may just be poor execution on Trump's part or his agenda is not exactly as he led us to believe during his campaign. I'd like to believe it's the former because I'd hate to find out it was all (or in part) a lie. Trump's failure to end DACA as promised was a lie, will there be others?

LOL!! Well, MW, you're free to your own sources, but the public record is the best we have and those are:

1. refugee numbers increased because of a court order in Hawaii, one that a lot of people and journalists were unaware of because there were so many lawsuits filed in different federal courts over the travel ban.

2. refugee numbers were curtailed after the announcement to comply with the court order by slowing down the process of approving them.

3. the court order has been removed by the US Supreme Court, the last count by your sources is 49,255, well under the 50,000 cap of the President's Executive Order, and I would expect refugee processing to cease when it hits 50,000 and hold there until the next fiscal year when a new number is established.

5. Trump, Kelly and Sessions have revoked all deferred action under the 2014 Memorandum that expanded DACA, added DAPA, added LPR's, and expanded renewals from 2 years to 3 years.

6. The DACA 2012 that was not part of the Texas lawsuit to challenge the 2014 Memorandum ended up being protected in an injunction ruling in that lawsuit with a court order that it remain in effect until the lawsuit was dismissed or resolved, a fact that again many people and journalists aren't or weren't aware of because they didn't read Hanen's Ruling.

7. The lawsuit has not been dismissed or resolved.

8. The DACA 2012 program was extended for 3 years by the DACA 2014 Memorandum which has now been revoked. In February, Sean Spicer stated in response to a reporters question about DACA that the "thinking is to let it expire in June".

9. Item 8 has been complicated by 6 and 7.

If you want to take that personally as some type of lie or betrayal, then that is your freedom to do, but to me that is not a lie or a betrayal, that is ending the entire program in a simple, sensible manner as soon as a damn court will let you do it.

Tillerson alone raised the refugee numbers without regards to the court order.

Maybe ivanka's influence or as he meets with other leaders, Saudi Arabia, Turkey etc is making deals. In March tillerson announced the US would be setting up safe zones. That is not happening but we are using force to rid cities of isis.