Thread: Time to Call a Spade a Spade

I'm sick of it.

When I say this stuff out loud, people look at me like my tinfoil hat is on too tight. Maybe I am just an old fogey?

Well, here goes...:

1. Before the current invasion, we rarely had epidemics of e. coli and TB and other "3rd World" public health problems. I remember when Jack in the Box (a fast food joint) killed a little kid with this, musta been in the mid 80s. They are out of business everywhere east of Nevada, I believe. Now, we get these every couple of weeks and the "experts" run around in circles finding anything they can to blame it on (during the spinach one last year it was deer) except the source: illegals who pick and process these foods who don't know how to wash their hands. In order to be hired to teach where I live, you need a TB test... TB hasn't been a problem in America since the 40s. These people have to be taught not to throw toilet paper they use in the bathroom into the TRASH (yuk!) because of course in Latin America, plumbing for most folks is a major luxury that rarely works and will not survive a wad of used TP.

2. We once had products that worked and were always being improved, and shoddy products put companies out of business. In Mexico, average consumers who complain about poorly made conumer products often are visited by thugs who beat them up. So, in that culture, you take what you are sold and keep your mouth shut. That is creeping into our culture, too. For the past decade I have NEVER had a bottle of Tilex or the Lysol equivalent for which the pump applicator has worked for the entire bottle. In the 70s, I could buy plastic pump bottle that I would spray gasoline through to clean enginer parts. I expected these not to last long. It was gasoline. But they still lasted longer than these pump applicators. This is happening because these companies know that a huge part of their customer base the 40 million illegals here) will not complain, and they are slowly forcing all Americans to become accustomed to shoddy, often dangerous merchandise.

3. Back in the day, you could only get Spanish language stations if you lived in a border town. Out of the first 12 stations in my cable TV service, 4 are Spanish language and the very first one (ch. 2) is slated to switch over to Spanish language any day now. There must be 25 Spanish language radio stations in theis market and at least 40% of the people I see in TV news are "Hispanic." More and more ads for department stores and such are including "Hispanics" and excluding white and even black Americans.

4. We were honest about how crooked employers are. Nobody will admit that the reason comapnies find illegals so attractive is not because these poor, hardworking souls escaping the grinding poerty back home will work for a fraction of what a greedy, spoilt Amerian demands just to get out of bed in the morning. The REAL reason American employers--big and small--like hiring illegals, whom they pay the same hourly wage they would anybody else, is because they pay them off the books, saving all the costs and headaches of paying a legitmate, legal American who HAS to work on the books. We need to stop kidding ourselves. The reality is that companies save BILLIONS every year in this way. They don't have to pay in-kind contributions to FICA, or for various municipal and state fees and "privilege taxes," or for workers comp or unemployment insurance, AND they don't have to deal with the $$ it costs them in bookkeeping and accounting, either.

5. The Democrats and Republicans were different parties. Remember this the next time you go to vote: the Scamnesty bill was called the "Bush-Kennedy" bill.


Now, I am going to polish my tinfoil hat.

Tokie

Ya Tokie.....those were the days. My husband keeps complaining about this junk as well. Have you tried the Sparkle window cleaner where you get these desolving packets and add your own water to their FREE bottle.......only to have the packets not desolve and the pump work to the 3rd use. It's a treat. There's inexpensive and then there's JUNK. They are charging us top dollar for JUNK claiming it's the thirst of Americans for Cheap. Heck....I remember getting Levis at the Salvation Army because they were finally broke in and wore them to death for over a decade later......now I'm spending full price and lucky my husband can wear them gently for a couple months before they fall apart.

It's not the same and I can't stand where this country is heading. It makes me ill. Right now I'm surprised if customer service just doesn't literally say F off.....coz they could really care less about what we think of their products or service because it's "global" now and in many instances there isn't a choice any longer for any competition. They're all in cahoots with each other.

I wear my tin hat with pride. I may be old but I remember what it was like to work your way up and do better......not beat each other to death for a race to the bottom.

Here's an extreme tinfoil hat response. It's true, though.

All these planes that have been flying around during the Bush admin. and maybe even back to 1997 have been spraying the air with chemtrails, gases, and pathogens. Do a google search on chemtrails. Also http://www.educate-yourself.org has some info on it.

Now for the info that I know, but can't give you a link on ....yet.
They also spray the air with pathogens that you can't see, but you breathe it in. The illegals from third world with poor hygiene do bring in a lot too. It's like a double whammy. Next time someone predicts a flu or TB outbreak, start asking HOW they know.

If you're still with me, then this one goes even deeper. No link, but in the future you will find out about it. The chemtrails can also be mood altering. They can make people depressed which has helped a pharmecuetical (sp?) company immensely. They can also make someone more sexually active. Think about that for a moment. Think of the sudden increase in sexual assaults and molestation. I just opened pandora's box. Now think about how American's moods have been altered in other ways.

This is true info. My sources are confidential.

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

I'm sick of it.

When I say this stuff out loud, people look at me like my tinfoil hat is on too tight. Maybe I am just an old fogey?

Well, here goes...:

1. Before the current invasion, we rarely had epidemics of e. coli and TB and other "3rd World" public health problems. I remember when Jack in the Box (a fast food joint) killed a little kid with this, musta been in the mid 80s. They are out of business everywhere east of Nevada, I believe. Now, we get these every couple of weeks and the "experts" run around in circles finding anything they can to blame it on (during the spinach one last year it was deer) except the source: illegals who pick and process these foods who don't know how to wash their hands. In order to be hired to teach where I live, you need a TB test... TB hasn't been a problem in America since the 40s. These people have to be taught not to throw toilet paper they use in the bathroom into the TRASH (yuk!) because of course in Latin America, plumbing for most folks is a major luxury that rarely works and will not survive a wad of used TP.

2. We once had products that worked and were always being improved, and shoddy products put companies out of business. In Mexico, average consumers who complain about poorly made conumer products often are visited by thugs who beat them up. So, in that culture, you take what you are sold and keep your mouth shut. That is creeping into our culture, too. For the past decade I have NEVER had a bottle of Tilex or the Lysol equivalent for which the pump applicator has worked for the entire bottle. In the 70s, I could buy plastic pump bottle that I would spray gasoline through to clean enginer parts. I expected these not to last long. It was gasoline. But they still lasted longer than these pump applicators. This is happening because these companies know that a huge part of their customer base the 40 million illegals here) will not complain, and they are slowly forcing all Americans to become accustomed to shoddy, often dangerous merchandise.

3. Back in the day, you could only get Spanish language stations if you lived in a border town. Out of the first 12 stations in my cable TV service, 4 are Spanish language and the very first one (ch. 2) is slated to switch over to Spanish language any day now. There must be 25 Spanish language radio stations in theis market and at least 40% of the people I see in TV news are "Hispanic." More and more ads for department stores and such are including "Hispanics" and excluding white and even black Americans.

4. We were honest about how crooked employers are. Nobody will admit that the reason comapnies find illegals so attractive is not because these poor, hardworking souls escaping the grinding poerty back home will work for a fraction of what a greedy, spoilt Amerian demands just to get out of bed in the morning. The REAL reason American employers--big and small--like hiring illegals, whom they pay the same hourly wage they would anybody else, is because they pay them off the books, saving all the costs and headaches of paying a legitmate, legal American who HAS to work on the books. We need to stop kidding ourselves. The reality is that companies save BILLIONS every year in this way. They don't have to pay in-kind contributions to FICA, or for various municipal and state fees and "privilege taxes," or for workers comp or unemployment insurance, AND they don't have to deal with the $$ it costs them in bookkeeping and accounting, either.

5. The Democrats and Republicans were different parties. Remember this the next time you go to vote: the Scamnesty bill was called the "Bush-Kennedy" bill.


Now, I am going to polish my tinfoil hat.

Tokie

There are a lot of us out here that think just like you do! I'm sick of it too! I am so furious about how our president and lawmakers are always pushing illegal aliens down our throats and making excuses for them while they break our laws......I want them all kicked out of our country! They are criminals! I just want our America back like it was when following laws meant something.

saveourcountry,

The first I heard of that sort of thing happening was back in the sixties. Well that's when I heard the story.

During World War Two there was a Japanese scientist that did a lot of work on spreading diseases and other medical experiments. One of the things he was working on when he was captured was a test to see the effects of spreading them airborne. He was captured and when he was interrogated our government thought it sounded interesting. They put him to work for them and he tested a contagion over southern California. You know something contagious enough that it would make people sick but not so much it would kill very many. Those in the most danger were the old or those with a sort of allergy if all went right.

I heard of two such experiments.


I haven't found the story of the experiments I heard about a long time ago. I did come cross a couple of others.


http://www.rense.com/general71/bio.htm

1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Francisco. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia like symptoms.


http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=18604&

Japanese troops dropped cholera and typhoid cultures in water reservoirs, wells and ponds.

Cottony material and feathers coated with anthrax bacteria were used to spread the disease in an airborne manner, as such fibers had been found to be effective in keeping the bacteria alive long enough to reach the intended human victims.

Witnesses recall watching Japanese airplanes dropping a mixture of wheat, millet, soy beans, rice, cotton fibers, paper and fabric cuttings, aerial spraying pathogens over the cities . They all had been coated with the biological organism or with fleas and brought the germs to people.

Japanese distributed infected food, cakes, drink, clothes and children's candies to the locals.

snip...

U.S. itself in 1943 also set up a major Biological Warfare program with 3,500 people at Camp Detrick, now Fort Detrick, in Frederic, MD. Instead of putting the ringleaders on trial, U.S. gave them stipends to gain some advantages in the WMD Biological Weapon.



P.S. The scary part is that no matter how far out many of these stories are they have more of a ring of truth than anything the government tries to sell us on anymore.

Originally Posted by saveourcountry

Here's an extreme tinfoil hat response. It's true, though.

All these planes that have been flying around during the Bush admin. and maybe even back to 1997 have been spraying the air with chemtrails, gases, and pathogens. Do a google search on chemtrails. Also http://www.educate-yourself.org has some info on it.

Now for the info that I know, but can't give you a link on ....yet.
They also spray the air with pathogens that you can't see, but you breathe it in. The illegals from third world with poor hygiene do bring in a lot too. It's like a double whammy. Next time someone predicts a flu or TB outbreak, start asking HOW they know.

If you're still with me, then this one goes even deeper. No link, but in the future you will find out about it. The chemtrails can also be mood altering. They can make people depressed which has helped a pharmecuetical (sp?) company immensely. They can also make someone more sexually active. Think about that for a moment. Think of the sudden increase in sexual assaults and molestation. I just opened pandora's box. Now think about how American's moods have been altered in other ways.

This is true info. My sources are confidential.

With all due respect....um, this is REAL tinfoil hat stuff. I may be a little nutzo, but this is truly crazy. I don't need a link. Just find me ONE pilot who has flown one of these aircraft and tell me where to pick up his book...surely in our society today, someone who has done this would write a book and make a bundle.

Or are the book publishers in on it, too? And the newspapers? And the magazines....wait, let me guess...it's all a Zionist plot, right?

And the illegals are immune to whatever is being sprayed....

Here is the simple answer for "all these planes": air traffic is heavier today than it used to be. Gee. Shocker. As for contrails, this is what high-altitude jet aircraft produce...it was a HUGE problem for those designing the "stealth" aircraft now in use by our military...hard to be invisible when you are leaving a long, white tail. Most of what's in it it water vapor.

This is a serious discussion of a very serious problem. I see the bigger picture and the real "conspiracy" which has been taking shape over the past few decades: those in power are desperate to "3rd World" the US. It's that simple. Those with the money and power want more money and power and if they can take this country down a socialist-fascist path where there is no longer any middle-class, that will help them immensely.

And if you look closely, that's what they are doing, and they are not using chemtrails to accomplish it, but things like political correctness, illegal immigration and creeping socialism.

Tokie

Originally Posted by crazybird

Ya Tokie.....those were the days. My husband keeps complaining about this junk as well. Have you tried the Sparkle window cleaner where you get these desolving packets and add your own water to their FREE bottle.......only to have the packets not desolve and the pump work to the 3rd use. It's a treat. There's inexpensive and then there's JUNK. They are charging us top dollar for JUNK claiming it's the thirst of Americans for Cheap. Heck....I remember getting Levis at the Salvation Army because they were finally broke in and wore them to death for over a decade later......now I'm spending full price and lucky my husband can wear them gently for a couple months before they fall apart.

It's not the same and I can't stand where this country is heading. It makes me ill. Right now I'm surprised if customer service just doesn't literally say F off.....coz they could really care less about what we think of their products or service because it's "global" now and in many instances there isn't a choice any longer for any competition. They're all in cahoots with each other.

I wear my tin hat with pride. I may be old but I remember what it was like to work your way up and do better......not beat each other to death for a race to the bottom.

The biggest problem I've encountered is getting a really high-gloss shine on my tinfoil hat...the products out there just don't do the same job they used to....



Tokie

Originally Posted by Molly

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

I'm sick of it.

There are a lot of us out here that think just like you do! I'm sick of it too! I am so furious about how our president and lawmakers are always pushing illegal aliens down our throats and making excuses for them while they break our laws......I want them all kicked out of our country! They are criminals! I just want our America back like it was when following laws meant something.

But see...this is what they use agin' us....they say we are just old fogies (even if we aren't) being unrealistic and nostalgic for the Leave it to Beaver days.....

Oh, and we're racist, too...just like back then. I especially love that argument: you don't want your nation invaded!? RACIST!!!!

It's like telling some Pole who was there in 1938.....you din't like the Germans invading? RAAAACCCCIIIISTTTTTT!!!

But it works. You can't engage in this conversation with ANYone on the left and a great many people on the right without them trotting this one out. And it's like asking you "so, when did you stop beating your wife?" There's virtually no argument against it--as intended--and that shuts down the discussion; you can't point up the damage the invaders have done to our economy, our culture our society...hell, even our ENVIRONMENT...nope, it's all because they have brown skin and you don't...and even if you have black skin or brown skin or yellow or red, they can then say "well, you are just a self-loathing________"

The worst part? I voted...TWICE for the Traitor-in-Chief. And "traitor" is accurate. He has welcomed an invasion of the United States of America. In 1776, they tarred and feathered people like him. (MOD EDIT)
Tokie

Originally Posted by StokeyBob

saveourcountry,

The first I heard of that sort of thing happening was back in the sixties. Well that's when I heard the story.

During World War Two there was a Japanese scientist that did a lot of work on spreading diseases and other medical experiments. One of the things he was working on when he was captured was a test to see the effects of spreading them airborne. He was captured and when he was interrogated our government thought it sounded interesting. They put him to work for them and he tested a contagion over southern California. You know something contagious enough that it would make people sick but not so much it would kill very many. Those in the most danger were the old or those with a sort of allergy if all went right.

I heard of two such experiments.


I haven't found the story of the experiments I heard about a long time ago. I did come cross a couple of others.


http://www.rense.com/general71/bio.htm

1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Francisco. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia like symptoms.


http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=18604&

Japanese troops dropped cholera and typhoid cultures in water reservoirs, wells and ponds.

Cottony material and feathers coated with anthrax bacteria were used to spread the disease in an airborne manner, as such fibers had been found to be effective in keeping the bacteria alive long enough to reach the intended human victims.

Witnesses recall watching Japanese airplanes dropping a mixture of wheat, millet, soy beans, rice, cotton fibers, paper and fabric cuttings, aerial spraying pathogens over the cities . They all had been coated with the biological organism or with fleas and brought the germs to people.

Japanese distributed infected food, cakes, drink, clothes and children's candies to the locals.

snip...

U.S. itself in 1943 also set up a major Biological Warfare program with 3,500 people at Camp Detrick, now Fort Detrick, in Frederic, MD. Instead of putting the ringleaders on trial, U.S. gave them stipends to gain some advantages in the WMD Biological Weapon.



P.S. The scary part is that no matter how far out many of these stories are they have more of a ring of truth than anything the government tries to sell us on anymore.

Yeah...they did the same thing with bats.

And rats.

So....that means every bat and every rat in the world is actually a little flying/creeping secret agent spreading doom and destruction?

Is there ANY proof of this? Oh...yeah, that's right....every year between the months of November and March, contrails increase over the US (gee...holiday travel season, it's winter, and contrails show up best in cold weather) and they cause flu-like symptoms, especially among the elderly!!!

Oh NOOOEEEESSSSSSS!!!! We are doomed--DOOOOOMMMMEEED!!!

Now, the Japanese wanted to spread bubonic plague or typhus throughout the US population, which would even today be a very effective means of bringing our nation to its knees if such a thing really got on it's feet, so to speak.

The contrails cause flu-like symptoms among, mostly, the elderly. I am confused: what, exactly, is this supposed to do to our society, our economy, etc?

Tokie

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

Originally Posted by Molly

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

I'm sick of it.

There are a lot of us out here that think just like you do! I'm sick of it too! I am so furious about how our president and lawmakers are always pushing illegal aliens down our throats and making excuses for them while they break our laws......I want them all kicked out of our country! They are criminals! I just want our America back like it was when following laws meant something.

But see...this is what they use agin' us....they say we are just old fogies (even if we aren't) being unrealistic and nostalgic for the Leave it to Beaver days.....

Oh, and we're racist, too...just like back then. I especially love that argument: you don't want your nation invaded!? RACIST!!!!

It's like telling some Pole who was there in 1938.....you din't like the Germans invading? RAAAACCCCIIIISTTTTTT!!!

But it works. You can't engage in this conversation with ANYone on the left and a great many people on the right without them trotting this one out. And it's like asking you "so, when did you stop beating your wife?" There's virtually no argument against it--as intended--and that shuts down the discussion; you can't point up the damage the invaders have done to our economy, our culture our society...hell, even our ENVIRONMENT...nope, it's all because they have brown skin and you don't...and even if you have black skin or brown skin or yellow or red, they can then say "well, you are just a self-loathing________"

The worst part? I voted...TWICE for the Traitor-in-Chief. And "traitor" is accurate. He has welcomed an invasion of the United States of America. In 1776, they tarred and feathered people like him. In 1942, they shot or hung them.

Tokie

I know what you mean when the liberal left tries to twist all the facts against us about illegal immigration. But the truth is these guys are wrong and this president is a traitor and so are the rest of the people who support what he is doing. All through time dictatars have tried to convince the people they ruled over that they knew best. Right now our way of life and our government is being over-thrown by people who hate America. I too voted for this president, never could I imagine that he would turn against the American people, but he has. He needs to be taken out of office and punished. I don't think the American people who love our country are going to sit back and let all this nonsense go on. Evenually the people are going to put a stop tp it. I just hope it's soon!