Thread: Trump’s Unreleased Taxes Threaten Yet Another Campaign Promise

Trump’s Unreleased Taxes Threaten Yet Another Campaign Promise

By ALAN RAPPEPORT
APRIL 17, 2017

Protesters rallied near President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla., on Saturday to demand that he release his tax returns. Credit Al Drago/The New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump’s promise to enact a sweeping overhaul of the tax code is in serious jeopardy nearly 100 days into his tenure, and his refusal to release his own tax returns is emerging as a central hurdle to another faltering campaign promise.

As procrastinators rushed to file their tax returns by Tuesday, the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, emphasized again on Monday that Mr. Trump had no intention of making his public. Democrats have seized on that decision, uniting around a pledge not to cooperate on any rewriting of the tax code unless they know specifically how that revision would benefit the billionaire president and his family.

And a growing roster of more than a dozen Republican lawmakers now say Mr. Trump should release them.

“If he doesn’t release his returns, it is going to make it much more difficult to get tax reform done,” said Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader, pointing out that the president has significant conflicts of interest on issues such as taxation of the real estate industry and elimination of the estate tax. “It’s in his own self-interest.”
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Donald promised something he can't deliver? This will only come as news to the people who voted for him and believers in the Easter Bunny.

With Republicans sharply divided on a path forward and the administration unable to come up with a plan of its own, the Democratic resistance is only the newest impediment.

As a candidate, Mr. Trump declared that he understood America’s complex tax laws “better than anyone who has ever run for president” and that he alone could fix them. But it is becoming increasingly unlikely that there will be a simpler system, or even lower tax rates, this time next year. The Trump administration’s tax plan, promised in February, has yet to materialize; a House Republican plan has bogged down, taking as much fire from conservatives as liberals; and on Monday, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told The Financial Times that the administration’s goal of getting a tax plan signed by August was “not realistic at this point.”

A tax overhaul could be the next expansive Trump campaign promise that falters before it even gathered much steam.

“If they have no plan, they can’t negotiate,” said Larry Kudlow, the economist who helped Mr. Trump devise his campaign tax plan. “In that case, tax reform is dead.”

The first pitfall for Mr. Trump was the debacle of his health care plan, which burned political capital and precious days off the legislative calendar. But his administration saw repealing the taxes imposed by the Affordable Care Act as an important step that would allow for deeper tax cuts later. Mr. Trump even suggested last week that he might return to health care before tax cuts.

Republican leaders in Congress also failed to create momentum. Speaker Paul D. Ryan built a tax blueprint around a “border adjustment” tax that would have imposed a steep levy on imports, hoping to encourage domestic manufacturing while raising revenue that could be used to lower overall tax rates. But it has been assailed by retailers, oil companies and the billionaire Koch brothers. With no palpable support in the Senate, its prospects appear to be nearly dead. Heading into a congressional recess, Mr. Ryan admitted that Republicans in the House, Senate and White House were not on the same page.

The president’s own vision for a new tax system is muddled at best. In the past few months, he has called for taxing companies that move operations abroad, waffled on the border tax and, last week, called for a “reciprocal” tax that would match the import taxes other countries impose on the United States.

But it is Mr. Trump’s own taxes that have provided the crucial leverage for his opponents. More than 100,000 of his critics took to the streets over the weekend in marches around the country, demanding that the president release his returns. Tax legislation, they say, could be a plot by Mr. Trump to get even richer.

“When they talk about tax reform, are they talking about cutting Donald Trump’s taxes by millions of dollars a year?” asked Ezra Levin, a member of the Tax March executive committee. “We don’t know.”

Beyond the politics of Mr. Trump’s returns, lawmakers do not want to pass an overhaul of the tax code that unwittingly enriches the commander in chief and his progeny. Those who are worried about conflicts of interest point to the potential repeal of the estate tax or elimination of the alternative minimum tax as provisions that would enrich Mr. Trump.

Perhaps the most consequential concern relates to a House Republican proposal to get rid of a rule that lets companies write off the interest they pay on loans — a move real estate developers and Mr. Trump vehemently oppose. Doing so would raise $1 trillion in revenue and reduce the appeal of one of Mr. Trump’s favorite business tools: debt.

In the halls of Congress, Democrats are employing procedural maneuvers to drive home their point on the tax returns and possibly compel Republican lawmakers to join their effort to force Mr. Trump to release them. And Democratic aides say more tricks are coming.

More than a dozen Republicans — from recognizable names like Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa and Representative Mark Sanford of South Carolina to backbenchers like Representatives David Young of Iowa, Matt Gaetz of Florida, Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, Ted Yoho of Florida, Rodney Frelinghuysen of New Jersey and Justin Amash of Michigan — have agreed that Mr. Trump should release his returns.

That list grows almost daily. On Monday, former Representative Joe Walsh of Illinois, a conservative firebrand and Trump loyalist, said the president should release his tax returns. “I do think this issue will come back and bite him on the butt,” he said on MSNBC.

Republicans argue that Democrats are putting politics ahead of an opportunity to fix a broken tax system. Mr. Trump shot back at his critics on Twitter on Sunday, suggesting that the protesters had been paid and that they were sore losers. On Monday, Mr. Spicer said that Mr. Trump remained under audit and that, breaking with 40 years of presidential tradition, his tax returns would not be made public.

“I think the president’s view on this has been very clear from the campaign, and the American people understood it when they elected him in November,” Mr. Spicer said.

Polls show that a majority of Americans, including most Republicans, would like Mr. Trump to release his tax returns, according to the Republican pollster Frank Luntz. However, the issue is a low priority for voters.

“You’re not going to change someone’s opinion of Trump merely by what’s in his tax returns,” Mr. Luntz said.

It remains unclear what impact the emphasis on Mr. Trump’s taxes will have on his aspirations of tackling the tax code.

Mr. Schumer said he had had no communication with the president about tax legislation and only minimal outreach from his economic advisers. While Mr. Trump signaled that he would like to reach a bipartisan tax deal, potentially including an infrastructure plan, the focus on his tax returns suggests that any legislation will happen along party lines. That would mean that a more limited bill, requiring a simple majority, would need to pass the Senate through complicated budget rules that create a new set of problems.

With little appetite for bipartisanship, many veterans of tax fights and lobbyists in Washington expect that Mr. Trump will ultimately embrace straight tax cuts, with some cleaning up of deductions, and call it a victory. Even that would be difficult, with a narrow Republican majority in the Senate and a widening budget deficit.

Former Representative Dave Camp of Michigan — a Republican who, as chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, released a tax plan in 2014 — said that if they wanted to get something done, lawmakers needed to brace for a more intense series of battles over the details of tax legislation than they faced during the failed health care effort.

“Obviously, there is a lot at stake here,” Mr. Camp said. “Health care is 20 percent of the economy, but tax reform is 100 percent of the economy.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/u...rump.html?_r=0

What does Trump's individual tax return have to do with tax reform?

You people are idiots and morons. Let me tell you without ever seeing Donald Trump's personal tax return how Tax Reform will benefit him.

1. His corporations and businesses will benefit from a reduction in the corporate income tax rate.
2. His estate whenever he has one will benefit from an elimination of the inheritance tax.
3. His properties and personal holdings will benefit from a reduction or elimination of the capital gains tax.
4. His family will beneift from a reduction in the personal income tax rates.

Like everyone else.

Originally Posted by Judy

What does Trump's individual tax return have to do with tax reform?

You people are idiots and morons. Let me tell you without ever seeing Donald Trump's personal tax return how Tax Reform will benefit him.

1. His corporations and businesses will benefit from a reduction in the corporate income tax rate.
2. His estate whenever he has one will benefit from an elimination of the inheritance tax.
3. His properties and personal holdings will benefit from a reduction or elimination of the capital gains tax.
4. His family will beneift from a reduction in the personal income tax rates.

Like everyone else.

Yep, I expect not everyone will benefit as much as Trump and his Mar-a-Lago membership. I'll withhold final judgement until I actually see a plan.

Any time there are tax cuts, those with the most benefit the most. It's simple math. That's how capitalism works. Socialism on the other hand attempts to use taxation under the force of law and authoritarianism to extract from those with more and redistribute to those with less.

Regulated capitalism to ensure a free enterprise system that works for all while still protecting itself, doesn't need that type of taxation to work properly, which is why the income tax was illegal under the US Constitution while regulation of trade and commerce was not.

We should try to get back to the basics that we know worked and worked well for our free nation of free people.

I do believe that a person's tax returns, a complete reporting of income, taxes, property, etc., etc., should be available to the American people - IF those people are going to be in a place of power.

It would have been nice to know about Hillary's shenanigans as Sec. of State that brought them millions to their 'foundation' and future speeches. It would have been nice to have a total audit of said foundation and their dealings in Haiti - and elsewhere.

Of course, we all know this is just about Pres. Trump and nothing to do with what should or shouldn't be done.

Originally Posted by nntrixie

I do believe that a person's tax returns, a complete reporting of income, taxes, property, etc., etc., should be available to the American people - IF those people are going to be in a place of power.

It would have been nice to know about Hillary's shenanigans as Sec. of State that brought them millions to their 'foundation' and future speeches. It would have been nice to have a total audit of said foundation and their dealings in Haiti - and elsewhere.

Of course, we all know this is just about Pres. Trump and nothing to do with what should or shouldn't be done.

I agree that transparency in government is very important.

Just a point of fact:

Candidates and Presidents have been releasing their tax returns since Richard Nixon until Donald Trump.

How's that worked out for you?

Not too well, I'd say, and here's why:

Most Americans don't understand the US tax code, it's 77,000 pages of complex and mostly stupid tax code and laws. Therefore, most people don't understand the tax returns based on that code. You had that with the fact that most Americans today are inept at math, and you have a comprehension and analytical void in the voter base when it comes to tax returns.

As a result there is no public purpose to candidates or Presidents releasing their tax returns and no benefit has ever been shown.

It's a "peeper" thing. It's the same reason people look at obscene videos while exclaiming "oh ain't it awful, hey, play it again". It's related somehow to examining people they think they own. Americans don't own their Presidents. They're represented by their Presidents. Americans haven't been represented in any meaningful way by any of the Presidents who release their tax returns.

When you keep doing the same thing over and over again seeking a different result, it's time to back up and try something different. Harping on something that either made no difference or more likely made it worse, just seems silly to me.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

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JD2, taking snippets out of a statement is a trick of the CORRUPT MEDIA and DNC. So, why are you doing it here at ALIPAC?

Originally Posted by Judy

What does Trump's individual tax return have to do with tax reform?

You people are idiots and morons. Let me tell you without ever seeing Donald Trump's personal tax return how Tax Reform will benefit him.

1. His corporations and businesses will benefit from a reduction in the corporate income tax rate.
2. His estate whenever he has one will benefit from an elimination of the inheritance tax.
3. His properties and personal holdings will benefit from a reduction or elimination of the capital gains tax.
4. His family will beneift from a reduction in the personal income tax rates.

Like everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Judy

Just a point of fact:

Candidates and Presidents have been releasing their tax returns since Richard Nixon until Donald Trump.

How's that worked out for you?

Not too well, I'd say, and here's why:

Most Americans don't understand the US tax code, it's 77,000 pages of complex and mostly stupid tax code and laws. Therefore, most people don't understand the tax returns based on that code. You had that with the fact that most Americans today are inept at math, and you have a comprehension and analytical void in the voter base when it comes to tax returns.

As a result there is no public purpose to candidates or Presidents releasing their tax returns and no benefit has ever been shown.

It's a "peeper" thing. It's the same reason people look at obscene videos while exclaiming "oh ain't it awful, hey, play it again". It's related somehow to examining people they think they own. Americans don't own their Presidents. They're represented by their Presidents. Americans haven't been represented in any meaningful way by any of the Presidents who release their tax returns.

When you keep doing the same thing over and over again seeking a different result, it's time to back up and try something different. Harping on something that either made no difference or more likely made it worse, just seems silly to me.

Not saying it is going to make a difference, but it should be out there. If nothing else as hindsight - to perhaps learn from it.



Of course, this is where an actual media would come into play. If we had an actual media who checked out these things and reported them, it could make a difference.

We haven't had a government for real in a long time - getting rid of Richard Nixon should tell us that. Just think about what got him to resign. Compare that to what we have learned about our government officials in just the last year.

His transgressions was peanuts - yet the media, our entertainment, books, etc. continue to use Richard Nixon as the example of the most corrupt politician. To this day, it is done.

But again, used or not, it should be available.

As for continuing to do the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome - I know

But, hey, we conservatives have been voting and hoping for the last 50 years or more and the 'agenda' keeps rolling along regardless of who we put in office.

Again, maybe it will do no good - but it should be available.

Maybe the average person is too stupid to understand it, but I'm thinking there are some who can and I'm also thinking we could figure out a few things.

I don't think the hue and cry for his return has much to do with anything constructive - but that doesn't make them wrong.