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    'Trump Emergency': Mexico Reacts to the Real Possibility of a Trump Presidency

    'Trump Emergency': Mexico Reacts to the Real Possibility of a Trump Presidency





    By Nathaniel Janowitz
    May 5, 2016 | 12:55 pm

    Donald Trump is not a popular man in Mexico. Piñatas made in his image are beaten with sticks throughout the country, two former presidents have called him crazy, and the country's current leader has compared him to Hitler and Mussolini.

    But could all that change now that the man who called Mexicans "rapists" and has promised a "big beautiful wall" along the border has nearly locked up the Republican nomination?

    Two months ago Former President Vicente Fox wagged his finger and said "I'm not paying for that ****ing wall." Yesterday, he rushed to apologize to the man he had also previously called a "false prophet."

    "If I offended you, I'm sorry," Fox said in a video interview with Breitbart News, eyes shifting back and forth from the interviewers to the camera where he addressed Trump directly, "But what about the other way around?"

    Fox also invited him to visit Mexico and see "what it's all about" in a cordial tone that he even emphasized by calling his own apology "humble."
    "You have to love thy neighbor," he urged the presumed Republican candidate.

    Others have gone further and actively embraced the idea that the business magnate could replace President Barack Obama.

    Governor of the Mexican state of Nuevo Leon, Jaime Rodriguez, said he's betting on Trump winning the presidency, though he himself wouldn't vote for him.

    "I made a bet," Rodriguez told a meeting of financial sector bigwigs in the state capital Monterrey. "What's Trump doing? He's taking advantage of the anger. The whole world says Trump is mad; that's what they said about me."

    Despite decades as a member of the governing Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, Rodriguez, often referred to by his nickname "El Bronco," is a popular anti-establishment figure. This owes much to his swashbuckling bravado and the fact that he won the governorship as an independent by a landslide, and against all odds. He is now regularly mentioned as a possible independent candidate for the 2018 presidential race.

    With Trump on Mexican political minds, the pressure is rising on President Enrique Peña Nieto to say something as well.

    Aside from a brief bout of strongly voiced objections to Trump's comments on Mexico and Mexican immigration in March, such as the comparison with European dictators, Peña Nieto has tended to avoid the subject.


    Trump tweets himself eating a non-traditional Mexican dish on Cinco de Mayo.
    Popular with Mexican-Americans, Cinco de Mayo is not celebrated in Mexico.(Photo via Twitter)

    Trump's near certain nomination did, however, prompt a comment from Humberto Roque, deputy interior minister for migration.

    "The Mexican government is deep in analysis over how to face what we could call the Trump emergency," he said on Wednesday.

    He was particularly critical of Trump's claims that he will block remittances if Mexico does not agree to pay for the frontier wall he wants to build to keep Mexicans out. "We live in a globalized world," Roque said. "The Unites States would have to go back to the middle ages to prohibit remittances."

    So far, however, the Mexican government has not been firm enough for former Foreign Minister Jorge Castañeda who, 15 years ago, spearheaded a Mexican effort to secure a major immigration reform under President Fox. That effort — dubbed "the whole enchilada" — was buried under the twin towers.

    "The problem is that Peña Nieto and his government do not have a clue about what they should do," Castañeda told VICE News. "It was a huge mistake to underestimate him before, and it would be a huge mistake to underestimate him now."

    Castañeda urged the government to be much more active making its displeasures known, as well as explaining to Mexicans at home and in the US what a Trump victory would mean.

    "It should be made clear to Americans that the Mexican government and Mexican society believe that [Trump's] stances are harmful to Mexican-American relations," he said.

    Castañeda added that he was confused by Fox's willingness to apologize for his previous comments about the wall when these were mostly "right on" as well as in line with the prevailing sentiments of many Mexicans.

    Luis, a young college student in Mexico City waiting for a street sandwich before his morning classes, seemed to agree.

    "Trump is a pinche pendejo," he said, using a particularly offensive way of saying ****ing dumbass as the smell of sizzling meat wafted off the stand. "He doesn't like Mexico, and we don't like him."

    Trump's declaration of "I love Hispanics" in a Cinco de Mayo tweet featuring a photograph of himself eating a taco bowl is unlikely to soften his image in Mexico.

    Taco bowls are almost unheard of south of the border. And, although popular in the United States with Mexican-Americans, Cinco de Mayo is not generally celebrated in Mexico.

    Often misrepresented as a commemoration of Mexican independence, the day actually marks a Mexican victory over invading French forces in 1862. The French went on to win the war, though they would be kicked out a year later.

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    "Trump is a pinche pendejo," he said, using a particularly offensive way of saying ****ing dumbass as the smell of sizzling meat wafted off the stand. "He doesn't like Mexico, and we don't like him."
    Everyone loves to misquote and misconstrue either Trumps' words or messages'. He (Trump) does not dislike Mexico or Mexicans. He dislikes the illegal free flow of Mexicans and everyone else illegally crossing the border into the United States. Until this country (Mexico) is willing to seriously look at the problem and all its ramifications from unpaid hospital bills from illegals birthing in the US to all the other negative financial effects to the US taxpayer, then it will never matter. The Mexican government has allowed and promoted a negative policy towards the US for decades and now someone in the US is going to do something about it. They should be more concerned about the negative trade effects if a Trump presidency occurs and they do not assist in this most wanted curtailing of illegal immigration into the US. Dozens of large corporations have set up shop in Mexico and need the US market to sell those goods back into.

    The Mexican government could unilaterally begin guarding its border with the US and start turning back all the flow of illegal migrants. That would probably put their government in a positive position with a Trump administration and ease any of the economic fallout that will occur. Just like fences make good neighbors in residential areas, guarded walls make good fences for countries where abused open borders no longer work for the receiving country.
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    Well said, joe s.
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    "The problem is that Peña Nieto and his government do not have a clue about what they should do,"



    Let me clue you in Nieto...

    1) Get rid of the gangs and cartels, make your neighborhoods safe for your people
    2) Get your troops on the border and stop the invasion of USA, stop the drugs and gangs and stop the human trafficking of YOUR people
    3) Call all your illegal citizens that are in the USA to go back to Mexico, same goes for Central America
    4) USA welcomes immigrants who come here LEGALLY and respect our Laws...get in line and wait your turn!
    5) Start educating your people, their human rights and provide jobs
    6) Implement population control and stop the poverty with people having too many kids they cannot provide for, got big news for you...we do not want to pay for them. You pay for them.
    7) You are not in the globalized world, you live in the Middle Ages in a 3rd world country with your corrupt government and we will tax the remittances to compensate for the massive expense your people cost our country.
    8. Better get your act together and start making some major changes in YOUR country because USA is not the dumping ground and the taxpayers are not your ATM machine anymore!
    9) You have used and abused our country for far too long, decades, and we are not going to take it anymore. You are the neighbor we would like a vast ocean to separate our borders from.
    10) You want to be a "good neighbor"...get the ball rolling, do your job, and take care of your own people

    Comprende?
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    AMEN BEEZER! PREACH IT SISTER!!

    Americans all need to unite and take a stand together based on common sense (illegal means illegal), intelligence (we can't afford illegal immigration) and an unwavering loyalty to the American People (Americans First, United We Stand, Divided We Fall).

    There's ONLY ONE candidate in the race for President who has these 3 characteristics.

    Support him, America. Honor him, America. Such a ONE will not cross our paths again in our lifetimes or even many generations of lifetimes. He is a gift to cherish. Accept him with dignity.

    SCOTT BROWN FOR VP

    RYAN'S GOTTA GO
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    And PLEASE .....NO Kasish and NO Sarah!!!!!!!
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    I just don't see how Scott Brown fills the shoes Trump is looking to fill in a VP spot.

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    He fills legislative experience, military experience, Veterans's issues experience. He has served on several good committees when he was in the US Senate including the Veterans Affairs Committee.

    Committee assignments

    Brown's committee assignments were as follows.[91]

    Committee on Armed Services
    Subcommittee on Airland (Ranking Member)
    Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities
    Subcommittee on Strategic Forces
    Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
    Subcommittee on Disaster Recovery
    Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information and International Security (Ranking Member)
    Subcommittee on Oversight of Government Management, the Federal Workforce, and the District of Columbia
    Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship
    Committee on Veterans' Affairs

    Caucus memberships

    Senate Oceans Caucus
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Brown

    Brown says he doesn't want it, thinks John Thune from South Dakota would be better, so it may all be moot anyway, but my hope is on Scott Brown, because I know he is qualified, capable, experienced, and loyal to Donald Trump personally and holds his same views on the important issues of immigration, trade, fiscal, infrastructure, veterans, jobs, military and foreign policy.
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