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    Trump's 'go-yuuuuge' 'in-their-face' DACA deal

    January 26, 2018
    By Monica Showalter

    President Trump's proposed deal with the Democrats on legalizing the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals recipients in exchange for a border wall, an end to the visa lottery, and an end to chain migration, is drawing some cautions from the right, as Ed Straker's piece on radio host Mark Levin's thoughts shows. But I think another radio host, Bill Mitchell, paints what's going on better. Far from this being a classic Republican cave-in, the DACA proposal probably a clever Trumpian deal to outsmart the Democrats and leave them out on their ear.

    After all, while ending illegal immigration and restoring rule of law is important to conservatives, it's not going to be easy to throw every DACA recipient out. Some after all are valedictorians, and Americans have no stomach for throwing them back to the s-holes. So there is Trump's deal and it might benefit all sides, including Republicans.

    For one thing, it's bigger than anything the Democrats have laid out - citizenship for 1.8 million DACA and wannabe DACA recipients after a dozen years, which is about the same time as the immigration line for a green card, meaning it doesn't stiff those waiting legally. Democrats must feel like they have been playing smallball compared to this, and of course Republicans will benefit at least slightly. Trump has taken the lead and stolen their thunder.

    Here's what Mitchell wrote on Twitter:

    Bill Mitchell

    Remember, Trump's broader stated goal is "merit-based" immigration. His new "DACA deal" is just that. He brings the illegals out of the shadows by registering them. They screw up once, they're gone. He just added a "merit-based" filter to illegal immigration. Smart.

    1:41 AM - Jan 26, 2018 · West Palm Beach, FL


    Bill Mitchell

    A path to citizenship under Trump's plan would take 12 long years. During that time, "Dreamers" must be PERFECT or they get deported. In the end, the only ones left to achieve citizenship are here on "merit" and will likely vote Republican because they will be prosperous.

    1:22 AM - Jan 26, 2018 · West Palm Beach, FL

    It makes sense because studies show that most Dreamers are underachievers, many of whom are just high school graduates, heavy welfare users, have petty crime backgrounds, and do not speak English. It's almost a given that most won't make it to the twelve-year finish line without getting into a bar fight, getting caught graffiti-spraying, or be picked up for drunk driving. The only ones who make it will be those with a work ethic and family values. Those actually are the ones who could become Republicans in the long run.

    Trump knows this. Democrats don't. They believe their own propaganda about all DREAMers being valedictorians. All it would take is the course of time for the sheep to sort themselves out from the goats and then we'd see. At the end, we would get the creme de la creme, and based on their values, not on the things Democrats value, such as class or skin color, just values. Trump's DACA twelve-year test is for them to have a chance to show their values, kind of like Hercules being asked to perform the twelve labors. In the end, we'd get the people who would actually like being Americans and succeed at it. We wouldn't have to keep the goats. The goats would go back to Mexico, or wherever.

    It's not foolproof, of course. All it takes is one leftwing judge to vacate a conviction on account of the consequences for a DACA recipient's citizenship prospects, nullifying the entire incentive to be good. What's more, as Levin points out, another president can ease the time requirements to nothing, and if he is a Democrat, he will. Also, it's a stretch to say that if DACA recipients get prosperous they'll vote conservative. Has Mitchell been to any big cities lately?

    But it's a gamble a lot of us can live with. It also has political advantages. Trump can be the champion of DACA, not Nancy Pelosi, and then where would Democrats be? He'd have stolen their thunder. Mitchell thinks it's political, too.

    Bill Mitchell

    Democrats do not want amnesty for DACA recipients. They want #IdentityPolitics as a campaign issue for 11/18. Trump gets that and is denying them what they really want. Think strategic. #RedTsunami2018.

    1:15 AM - Jan 26, 2018 · West Palm Beach, FL


    Bill Mitchell

    If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being #AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership CANNOT accept, he completely marginalizes them for 11/18. Get it?

    1:02 AM - Jan 26, 2018 · West Palm Beach, FL

    Realistically, after all we have seen of Trump in the last year, would he really botch it? He' rolled Democrats every time they got near him. This tweet from a thoughtful Washington operative, seems to state it best:

    Dean Clancy

    Dear liberals:

    He bested you in the electoral college, passed a tax cut without you, turned the shutdown against you, and repealed your beloved health care mandate.

    He's unraveling your gains on judges, welfare, and regulation.

    Do you think you'll outsmart him on immigration?

    7:59 PM - Jan 25, 2018
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    I do not buy for one minute the theories that Donald (Judas) Trump is playing some kind of brilliant chess game against the Democrats using DACA. If Trump truely wanted to end the illegal immigration disaster, he had a chance to take a giant step toward that goal in September by ending DACA immediately and unconditionally. Instead what did he do -- he gives congress 6 months to create legislation that will make Obama's illegal and temporary DACA program permanent and irreversible.

    Look at his language; he echos the open borers propaganda by talking about "wonderful kids" and "have a heart" and "laws of love." Blab, blab, puke and more puke. He is breaking a major, perhaps his most important promise to those who voted for him. He said he would end DACA instead he continues to give it life and helps it grow. Now the 800,000 is almost 2 million. Just what brilliant chess move is that supposed to be to out maneuver the Democrats?

    DACA is a cancerous tumor that will grow and grow until it causes the death this country. The only way DACA could happen without being an immigration disaster is if legal immigration was reduced by two million persons so there would be no net increase of immigrants. DACA overwhelmingly favors Hispanics that makes it inherently racially biased in their favor; to correct for that the reduced number of legal immigrants must be specifically applied to Hispanaics. Of course that will not happen, so let us just end DACA, no deals.

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    I'm totally shocked the biggest Trump cultist in the entire nation thinks this is a good deal, lol.

    Not. Trump could come out tomorrow in favor of full blown open borders and launch nukes at Kansas and Bill would claim it's the most brilliant political move ever.

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    First, we have to understand the "optics". President Obama and his leftist pals created DACA out of thin air by giving these people the Sympathy Card. You know the Press is going to play this as "heartless" and millions of uneducated people who do not read are going to believe this.

    That is the situation.

    NO to DACA, which I am for---is NOT going to pass in the Congress because 80% of them yahoos up there are converged with Political Correctness. We live in a Marxist state.

    That is the situation.

    The Doric Greeks had a saying, "The half is more than the whole". I'm a realist. Ideally, I want to deport all 15 million illegals here. We also have to think that in 2018 that Congress will become Demoncrat. What are we going to do then?

    Seeing "what is", I would rather have the Border Wall, End Visa lottery immigration, End Chain migration in exchange for 1.8 Dreamers. Get what I have seen here because the Future, no one sees. I'd rather get what I can see, than to wait for something I don't see in the Future. I am willing to compromise.

    But after tonight--listening to the Demoncrats' responses, Hispanic once illegal alien, telling me what I can't do in my own country---I've had it! To hell with compromise.

    America is becoming sick. America is sinking into a mass psychosis and it is reaching dangerous levels. America is fast becoming ungovernable because no one, except Senator Manchin, is reasonable. I voted for Trump expressly for The Wall, for Deportation. We can NOT take in any more Hispanics. We can't. We have already allowed in over 60 million Hispanics, with 30 million here originally. That is close to 100 million Hispanics. We are turning into Guatemala. We are turning in Venezuela.

    I was going to compromise. Now. No way. Deport them all.

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