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    1. Telemundo | NBCUniversal

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    Seems that contracts mean little to nothing to Latinos and there friends, too. Now, Jeb, do you still love and trust them? This one thread says a bunch about trustworthiness so loud even I could not miss it!

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    Miss Universe pageant declares the show must go on, but will anyone see it?

    By Hollie McKay
    Published June 30, 2015 FoxNews.com



    NOW PLAYINGNBC dumps Trump

    LOS ANGELES – What are the 51 state beauty pageant winners gearing up for July 12’s Miss USA pageant going to do now?
    NBC dumped Donald Trump on Monday and said the network would not be involved with – or even air – their jointly-owned Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants.

    The Miss Universe Organization said in a statement sent to FOX411 the organization is "built on a foundation of inclusion" and they are "disheartened" by the recent events, but the show must go on.

    "While world politics and other influences will undoubtedly play a role, the pageant will always seek to transcend controversy," the organization declared. "It is unfortunate that recent events beyond our control have only served to negatively impact the women who participate in the pageant, our state directors, our sponsors and our fans. We want our supporters to know we remain committed to them and we will be conducting the pageant, regardless of the current situation."

    But finding someone to air the show seems to be the big challenge.


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    An insider connected to the Miss Universe Organization, which also operates the Miss USA and Teen USA competitions, says much of the pageant staff are “shopping for new jobs unless they can find a suitable buyer for Miss USA.”

    “It doesn’t look like anyone will air it at this stage,” the source told FOX411 of the scheduled Miss USA contest. “They could possibly buy time but they’ll need to find someone to sell it to them… No one knows what will happen.”
    That would leave 51 state pageant winners – many of whom have been in pageants for years and spent thousands of dollars to get to this point – with pretty dresses that only a few people will see.

    Shandi Finnessey, Miss USA 2004 and 1st runner-up to Miss Universe that same year, said it’s “incredibly unfortunate that it is not being televised this year.”


    “I have trained a lot of these girls for the USA pageant and they were so excited to share this experience with friends and family who would fly to Baton Rouge to watch them,” said Finnessey, who founded the pageant training company Pageantology with 2003 Miss USA Susie Castillo.


    Our insider also said that NBC “had been looking for a way out of airing the show for some time, and this was the perfect out.”


    “Ratings and ad revenue have slipped dramatically the last 10 years and it costs a fortune to put this on,” the source explained. “They kept it going for ‘Apprentice.’ But now that is over with Trump.

    They wanted to clip it.”


    Ratings for the pageant have bumped up and down from a high of 8.1 million viewers in 2005 to a low of 4.6 million in 2013. Similarly Miss Universe attracted a high of 9.2 million in 2005 to a low of 3.8 million in 2013.


    Furthermore, we’re told the tourism body behind the host city Baton Rouge, LA – which has been heavily promoting the pageant and has invested a great deal of money in the event – is now “trying to salvage the millions they had tied up.”


    In a statement released Monday, NBC announced that it was severing it business relationship with 2016 presidential hopeful Trump due to his “recent derogatory statements.” During his campaign launch last week, Trump accused “illegal immigrants” from Mexico of “bringing drugs, bringing crime” and being “rapists.”


    "The Hispanic contestants are pretty upset about the comments," added the source. "But I am sure you'll hear a lot more about it after the competition is over."


    Farouk Systems, whose hair products include Chi and Biosilk, announced on Monday it was "[withdrawing] sponsorship of Miss USA, Miss Universe, and Miss Teen USA Pageants."

    "Farouk Systems does not agree with or endorse the statements recently made by Donald Trump about immigrants," said Farouk Systems CEO Basim Shami in a message posted on the company's Facebook page.


    NBC declined to comment. VisitBatonRouge.com did not respond to comment requests.

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    I think NBC has done a great disservice to the contestants and the city of Baton Rouge. But hey, this is show business, right? Oh no, WAIT, this is not show business, in show business, the show must go on!!

    When networks decide to can a project and dump a lot of young talented women because a political candidate exercised his freedom of speech under the First Amendment about a huge problem creating a disaster for the American People, then hey, what's a citizen to do but:

    BOYCOTT NBC!

    No, I'm no longer a supporter of Donald Trump because of his views on women's rights and abortion. But I support his free speech to express his accurate opinion on illegal immigration which does in fact bring in drugs, criminals and rapists.

    For a network to cancel a show that happens once a year and disappoint these young women and the city of Baton Rouge over political free speech on immigration, the free speech the network survives on, the free speech they and other members of our free press depend upon for their very livelihood, is pretty amazing. Trump isn't their employee, he's not speaking for the network or reflecting in anyway on the "views" of NBC, and he's not a racist and nothing he said was wrong or even inappropriate. Would I have said it differently, well, yes, but that's how Trump talks to get his point across.

    So, how do you legally breach a contract like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post

    No, I'm no longer a supporter of Donald Trump because of his views on women's rights and abortion. But I support his free speech to express his accurate opinion on illegal immigration which does in fact bring in drugs, criminals and rapists.
    While I understand that and not happy on it either no other candidate is a real supporter of any of that either except maybe Elizabeth Warren. But the truth is we will never have a candidate that will match every issue we have so we have to choose what issue is more likely to save or doom our country. A new President can't screw up abortion really or take away women's rights, they don't have that kind of power with the Constitution and the courts already having long standing precedent that won't be changed. So what issue is likely to doom our country to utter failure and who is the best choice for handling that?

    To me immigration and trade agreements are the biggest threat to our country surviving with the next group of issues being welfare and bad government money management. Immigration deals with population, economy, jobs, and wage growth. Trade agreements deal with the same exact things. That makes those the #1 issue for me (and don't misunderstand, I'm not saying to just end legal immigration). Next is the defecit and how much wasteful spending their is which includes welfare and those gaming the system. That also will doom our country to going bankrupt.

    Abortion is a non starter issue for a President as a President could only veto or sign a bill and that fight is now really a state fight. The law is already well set on it and can't be changed other then an Amendment which we know isn't going to happen on either side of the debate. Women's rights won't be changed either as laws are already in place along with a Constitutional understanding on the issue. Hence that is also a non starter issue. This means really abortion and women's rights is really just speaking points to drag away from the real serious country dooming issues.

    So would you support someone because of issues that really won't be changed either way and are just talking points? Or support someone on what is currently desperately needed to save the country as a whole? One has to remember that there will never be the perfect candidate or perfect President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReformUSA2012 View Post
    While I understand that and not happy on it either no other candidate is a real supporter of any of that either except maybe Elizabeth Warren. But the truth is we will never have a candidate that will match every issue we have so we have to choose what issue is more likely to save or doom our country. A new President can't screw up abortion really or take away women's rights, they don't have that kind of power with the Constitution and the courts already having long standing precedent that won't be changed. So what issue is likely to doom our country to utter failure and who is the best choice for handling that?

    To me immigration and trade agreements are the biggest threat to our country surviving with the next group of issues being welfare and bad government money management. Immigration deals with population, economy, jobs, and wage growth. Trade agreements deal with the same exact things. That makes those the #1 issue for me (and don't misunderstand, I'm not saying to just end legal immigration). Next is the defecit and how much wasteful spending their is which includes welfare and those gaming the system. That also will doom our country to going bankrupt.

    Abortion is a non starter issue for a President as a President could only veto or sign a bill and that fight is now really a state fight. The law is already well set on it and can't be changed other then an Amendment which we know isn't going to happen on either side of the debate. Women's rights won't be changed either as laws are already in place along with a Constitutional understanding on the issue. Hence that is also a non starter issue. This means really abortion and women's rights is really just speaking points to drag away from the real serious country dooming issues.

    So would you support someone because of issues that really won't be changed either way and are just talking points? Or support someone on what is currently desperately needed to save the country as a whole? One has to remember that there will never be the perfect candidate or perfect President.
    The effort to change abortion laws is enormous through the Republican Party because of a guy named James Bopp, who represents through his law firm, all these pro-life organizations. I found his resume on the internet and he has over 40 of these organizations that he listed in his resume and probably has more he didn't name who wanted to remain anonymous. It was shocking. So who is James Bopp?

    He's a two-bit lawyer from Indiana who decided in the 70's to build a law practice representing pro-life groups. He then decided that the way to do this was to infiltrate the Republican Party and instigate an anti-abortion tactic and use the Republican Party to obtain results for his law firm clients. He first got himself elected as a Delegate. Then he got himself nominated to the Platform Committee. Then he got hired as General Counsel for the Republican National Committee, then elected as Vice Chairman of the RNC. He also got himself hired as General Counsel for the Republican Governor's Association.

    So I called and wrote a letter to the RNC exposing this conflict of interest a few years ago. Boom, he was out.

    Now, he's just been brought back in as a "volunteer" non-compensated Assistant General Counsel of the RNC with that moron from Wisconsin, Reince Priebus, singing his praises.

    So, I'll have to contact them again and explain that "volunteer" doesn't solve the conflict of interest because he's still being paid by his clients to manipulate RNC policy, contributions to candidates, platform issues, and all the rest and is still under a conflict of interest in that position.

    The US House of Representatives can't pass Trey Gowdy's bill that authorizes states to enforce US immigration law, but they just passed the 20 week fetus bill and sent it to the Senate.

    States with Republican Governors and legislatures have all passed laws that severely impede and restrict abortion rights, so the abortion right is in great peril with the next President who like what Trump said he would do is appoint Supreme Court Justices with his view against abortion and if you're against abortion procedures and want to ban or severely restrict them, then you are against women, because what that means is you want to force a pregnant girl or woman into childbirth against her will, risk her life, change her life and burden her in ways that are purely barbaric which means you don't care at all about that girl or that woman, have no respect for what she wants or needs, and view her as merely a reproductive vessel.

    So to Trump I say, if you no longer believe in abortion, then don't have one. But how dare you think that you are representing the people of the United States, when you have no respect at all for the majority of our population who are females?

    I'm so sorry, but I can not support a Pro-Life Anti-Abortion candidate for President of the United States that wants to force pregnant girls and women into childbirth against their will. Is Trump so out of touch with the reality of the situation that he doesn't understand this is what he's doing? I don't think so. I think he knows exactly what he's doing. Trump today is not the Trump we all love from 1999. He's different. Can he re-find himself and get straight? We'll see, but I'm no longer on his bumper, I'm not even in his corner. I'll support his positions and applaud him when I think he deserves it, and I will cheer and give him everything he deserves on his trade and immigration stances, except my vote because of his position on abortion. It was his choice to lose my vote and the votes of millions of other women and men who support them, who can either make or break a candidacy.

    If no one believes me on that, just ask Mitt Romney. He didn't lose because of the "latino vote", he lost because he lost the "women vote".
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    Macy's cuts ties with Trump over Mexican immigration comments

    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump waves as he arrives at a house party June 30 in Bedford, N.H.
    (Jim Cole / Associated Press)



    By STEPHEN BATTAGLIO contact the reporter


    Macy's is joining the line of companies cutting ties with Donald Trump over the real estate mogul's comments about Mexican immigrants.

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    In this case, it's neckties. The retailer has marketed a line of menswear with the Trump label since 2004. But in a statement issued Wednesday, Macy's said it was "disappointed and distressed" over Trump's June 16 remarks regarding U.S. immigration policy in which he made derogatory remarks about Mexicans. He said Mexican immigrants were bringing drug and crime into the U.S.

    Univision cuts ties with Donald Trump, Miss USA pageant over Mexican remarks

    "We have no tolerance for discrimination in any form," Macy's said in a statement.

    Trump made the comments at the kickoff of his campaign for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination and has been taking heat ever since.


    Trump has already lost business from Univision, which will not air the Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants. NBC, Trump's partners in the pageants, has also announced it will sever ties with Trump, and will keep him off his hit reality show "Celebrity Apprentice." Mexican TV companies Televisa and TV Ora have also parted ways with Trump.


    The move by Macy's is a sign that the Trump brand name, a major source of income for the billionaire, is becoming tarnished as a result of the controversy.

    The ties and shirts in the Trump line were still on the Macy's website Wednesday at discounted prices.


    Trump has showed no sign of backing away from his immigration view. In a Tuesday interview on Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor," he said, "It's totally accurate. ... The border is a disaster."

    Donald Trump sues Univision for dropping Miss Universe and Miss USA pageants

    In response to the Macy's announcement, Trump issued a tweet that said, "We must have strong borders & stop illegal immigration now!"

    Trump has filed a $500-million lawsuit against Univision, saying its decision to dump his pageants is a politically motivated attempt to squelch free speech. Univision's principal owner, Haim Saban, is a supporter and fundraiser for Hillary Rodham Clinton, the leading candidate for the Democratic nomination.

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    Judy, while I understand where your coming from in truth most pro abortion people actually support a 20-24 week abortion ban. Its only a small number that is completely anti abortion and a small number that is for abortion up to delivery date. But to many if they can't decide in the first 5-6 months to get an abortion then that's their problem. At 5-6 months there is lots of kicking and movement going on which to many they see as life and find it acceptable to have some restrictions of that sort. I've been pro choice for years as have many of my friends and we have had this discussion many times and people seem to think having a cut off date is acceptable and even good.

    With that said going any farther then that won't be allowed especially by women. That ship has long sailed and the only bit that is left is limiting 3rd trimester abortions unless mother's life is in danger.

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