USPS Calls Me Racist

If you haven't Noticed the USPS is getting cozy with the spanish language.

I never go there, mostly because I don't send many packages or letters, but had to pick up a certified letter the other day. I drive down and notice the same banner on the front of the building telling people in Spanish to send money to Mexico with the USPS.

Then once I get inside I see a newer banner which says the same thing. I look around, not one single banner in english or advertising anything besides sending money to Mexico.

I asked the African-American women at the counter what the banners were all about and she said "Its for those type of people that need to send money to Mexico" and I asked her "what about Canadians?" She just looked at me funny.

So I grabbed one of those lil brochures that says I can tell the USPS exactly what I think by calling. I call the number and of course it's an automated system with nothing on it about talking to an operator. So i fumble around for about for a few minutes until the system finally gets me to a "Customer Service Professional".

It was then I reached a guy, sry name I didnt catch. A little peeved I told him exactly what I wanted to tell the USPS, that I dont appreciate one arm of the US Government aiding and abetting illegal aliens while another fights them off.

The young man then told me, a little angry at me, that it was to protect Mexicans money. I decided to play a little game and told the guy that I was born in Mexico but a Naturalized US Citizen and that I thought it was a bunch of crap. I asked him where the banners in Farci, French, and Swahili were. I then repeated that I do not think that illegal aliens need help sending their $20 billion to Mexico.

The representative then told me, very angry, that Mexico is our largest trading partner buying $300 million worth of goods every year from us.

Of course I pointed out that that equals a trade deficit less than 1/20th of what we send to them comes back in trade and that is not a very good deal. I then told him that I think the USPS needs to discontinue this practice and start focusing on good hardworking English speaking Americans.

The customer service rep then told me "Im sorry you're prejudice". To which I replied "What? did you not hear me say I was born in Mexico?".

Then he told that I was not a real hispanic and called me a piece of racist white trash and hung up.

I called in to talk to his supervisor and explained what had happened. Instead of telling me he was in the wrong and that this problem would be dealt with she told me she would take my complaint.

She also then told me that Taxpayers do not pay the USPS salary but people who buys stamps, and if they can sell those stamps to people sending money out of the country then they will.

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Then he told that I was not a real hispanic and called me a piece of racist white trash and hung up.

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I would of gone balistic with the supervisor. Who the racist? It's certainly not you. :x

dragons5, file a written complaint with your local postmaster.

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The representative then told me, very angry, that Mexico is our largest trading partner buying $300 million worth of goods every year from us.

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Gee, and American taxpayers pay many billions each year to educate aliens' children, incarcerate alien criminals, medicaid and other expenses......and who is the $300 million going to? Sure as hell not the US taxpayer.

Bush and his subordinates keep talking about a major increase in trade with Mexico since NAFTA.... that is true, except that it is all in favor of Mexico exporting more now than ever to the US....

1992 ... US had a surplus of $5 Billion with Mexico
2004.... US had a DEFICIT of $41 Billion with Mexico

source: www.usmcoc.org/t2.html

add to that the $20 Billion in "remittances" sent to Mexico .... that is a grim picture..... and yet Mexico is also not served well, as many Mexican operations lost THEIR work to cheaper Chinese factories.....
the net benefit accrues to US corporations like John Deere who produce subassemblies in Mexico and bring them to the US for final assembly or just for resale to the US market...

that is certainly good for the corporations involved, but it is not good for the Balance Sheet of the US, and certainly NOT for the workers whose jobs went to Mexico or elsewhere...

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1992 ... US had a surplus of $5 Billion with Mexico
2004.... US had a DEFICIT of $41 Billion with Mexico

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Gee, think that has anything to do with Klinton pushing bush 1's NAFTA?

Hmmmm

righto....Congress sure did us one hell of a big favor, eh?

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She also then told me that Taxpayers do not pay the USPS salary but people who buys stamps, .

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This part is absolutely correct. The USPS is 100% fee-supported. It receives no federal funds for its operations.

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Then he told that I was not a real hispanic and called me a piece of racist white trash and hung up.

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I would of gone balistic with the supervisor. Who the racist? It's certainly not you. :x

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Its too bad you didnt record it. Then you could have put it on Youtube!

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She also then told me that Taxpayers do not pay the USPS salary but people who buys stamps, .

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This part is absolutely correct. The USPS is 100% fee-supported. It receives no federal funds for its operations.

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It depends how you flip the coin. The Postal Service is part of the Federal Government, and all full time employees's if paid by check will have at the top of the check "United States Department Of The Treasury". We are civil servant's of the taxpayers, so don't let a uneducated supervisor tell you differently. Retired 33 years USPS.

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She also then told me that Taxpayers do not pay the USPS salary but people who buys stamps, .

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This part is absolutely correct. The USPS is 100% fee-supported. It receives no federal funds for its operations.

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It depends how you flip the coin. The Postal Service is part of the Federal Government, and all full time employees's if paid by check will have at the top of the check "United States Department Of The Treasury". We are civil servant's of the taxpayers, so don't let a uneducated supervisor tell you differently. Retired 33 years USPS.

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No, the USPS is not part of the federal government. It is privatized, which is why it is called the US Postal Service rather than by its former name, the US Postal Department. The Privatized USPS has a special relationship with the federal government such that its employees are paid based on a federal pay scale and are allowed to participate in federal employee benefits. The USPS is tax exempt but may operate for profit. It has all sorts of powers that are not afforded to actual branches of government, many of which are enumerated under TITLE 39 > PART I > CHAPTER 4 > § 401. Like the IRS, the USPS masquerades as a part of the federal government, but in fact operates for the benefit of federal creditors. It is, in that respect, an agency (using the legal definition of "agent" as "a person who is authorized to act for another through employment, by contract or apparent authority"), but one acting on behalf of the revenue collection arm of the federal government's foreign debt collectors. Like the IRS, the USPS is exempt from external audit by the federal government. The GAO simply accepts the numbers provided by these "services" at face value. And while stamps used to represent a federal tax, they are now considered "products" of the USPS.

So basically, the sale of our ports, toll roads and other infrastructure to foreign investors is nothing new. The federal government has been handing over the revenue-generating portions of our federal government to foreign investors and creditors for decades.

The United States Postal Service (USPS) is an "independent establishment of the executive branch" of the United States Government (see 39 U.S.C. § 201) responsible for providing postal service in the United States. Within the United States, it is colloquially referred to simply as "the post office."

The USPS is legally defined as an "independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States," as it is wholly owned by the government and controlled by the Presidential appointees and the Postmaster General.

TITLE 39 § 201 United States Postal Service

There is established, as an independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States, the United States Postal Service.

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The United States Postal Service (USPS) is an "independent establishment of the executive branch" of the United States Government (see 39 U.S.C. § 201) responsible for providing postal service in the United States. Within the United States, it is colloquially referred to simply as "the post office."

The USPS is legally defined as an "independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States," as it is wholly owned by the government and controlled by the Presidential appointees and the Postmaster General.

TITLE 39 § 201 United States Postal Service

There is established, as an independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States, the United States Postal Service.

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An "independent establishment" of the Executive Branch is not a department of the government, which is why they have come up with as bizarre a terminology as "independent establishment." Other than the IRS or the Federal Reserve, two other private entities with quasi-governmental status, name for me a single governmental agency, bureau or department called an "establishment" of the Executive Branch.

The USPS is NOT owned by the government. It used to be back when it was the US Postal Department, but has not been since Nixon privatized it.

As for the Postmaster General, he is not appointed by the President or by Congress, but rather by the Board of Governors of the USPS (Sec. 202(c)). Also, there is an alternate CEO of the USPS who is appointed pursuant Sec. 202(d). Furthermore, appointment by the President of an officer or official of an entity or organization is no evidence that said entity or organization is part of the duly constituted government. The President appoints, with the advice and consent of Congress, the Federal Reserve Chairman, yet it is well established and has been legally proven (by former Texas Congressman Wright Patman among others) that the Federal Reserve is not a part of the government, but is rather a private entity operating in a quasi-governmental capacity. Once it was established that the Executive Branch could create such quasi-governmental entities, all bets were off as to the true nature of a number of "agencies".

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As for the Postmaster General, he is not appointed by the President or by Congress, but rather by the Board of Governors of the USPS (Sec. 202(c)).

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The Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service sets policy, procedure, and postal rates for services rendered, and has a similar role to a corporate board of directors. Of the eleven members of the Board, nine are appointed by the President and confirmed by the United States Senate (see 39 U.S.C. § 202). The nine appointed members then select the United States Postmaster General, who serves as the board's tenth member, and who oversees the day to day activities of the service as Chief Executive Officer (see 39 U.S.C. § 202 and 39 U.S.C. § 203). The ten-member board then nominates a Deputy Postmaster General, who acts as Chief Operating Officer, to the eleventh and last remaining open seat.

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As for the Postmaster General, he is not appointed by the President or by Congress, but rather by the Board of Governors of the USPS (Sec. 202(c)).

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The Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service sets policy, procedure, and postal rates for services rendered, and has a similar role to a corporate board of directors. Of the eleven members of the Board, nine are appointed by the President and confirmed by the United States Senate (see 39 U.S.C. § 202). The nine appointed members then select the United States Postmaster General, who serves as the board's tenth member, and who oversees the day to day activities of the service as Chief Executive Officer (see 39 U.S.C. § 202 and 39 U.S.C. § 203). The ten-member board then nominates a Deputy Postmaster General, who acts as Chief Operating Officer, to the eleventh and last remaining open seat.

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Again, the chairman of the Federal Reserve is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Are you going to try to tell me that the Federal Reserve is part of the government and not a private banking cartel? Again, Wright Patman proved that the Fed was NOT part of the government and went so far as to get the D.C assessor to obtain a lien against the Federal Reserve building on the Washington Mall for unpaid property taxes (only actual government agencies are exempt from the tax unless there is a specific provision of law stating the exemption, as was done when the USPS was privatized). The Fed ended up having to place the building in trust to the federal government in order to avoid getting nailed for the taxes.

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add to that the $20 Billion in "remittances" sent to Mexico .... that is a grim picture..... and yet Mexico is also not served well, as many Mexican operations lost THEIR work to cheaper Chinese factories.....
the net benefit accrues to US corporations like John Deere who produce subassemblies in Mexico and bring them to the US for final assembly or just for resale to the US market...

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I don`t know how many remember the name, "McCullough", but at one time they were at the top of the line on "chainsaws" with "Made in USA" stickers on their equipment. Later they made weed eaters, blowers,ect, with names like "Eager Beaver, Pro Mac,and more. In the early 90`s they moved their Manufactuering to Mexico. Almost every piece of equipment had a sticker on it that said "Assembled in Mexico".
After moving to Mexico they started going down hill and started cutting cost and lowering quality. In 1998 they went bankrupt.

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add to that the $20 Billion in "remittances" sent to Mexico .... that is a grim picture..... and yet Mexico is also not served well, as many Mexican operations lost THEIR work to cheaper Chinese factories.....
the net benefit accrues to US corporations like John Deere who produce subassemblies in Mexico and bring them to the US for final assembly or just for resale to the US market...

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I don`t know how many remember the name, "McCullough", but at one time they were at the top of the line on "chainsaws" with "Made in USA" stickers on their equipment. Later they made weed eaters, blowers,ect, with names like "Eager Beaver, Pro Mac,and more. In the early 90`s they moved their Manufactuering to Mexico. Almost every piece of equipment had a sticker on it that said "Assembled in Mexico".
After moving to Mexico they started going down hill and started cutting cost and lowering quality. In 1998 they went bankrupt.

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They were once so popular that Paul McCartney's Wings guitarist, Jimmy McCullough, was nicknamed "Chainsaw."

Jees, with the last 2 Presidents we have had the privilidge of having, maybe we can no longer afford to have any more Presidents, 2 more like this, we wll have nothing left to sell, trade or outsource! :roll:

NOT ALL PPL WHO SEND MONEY TO MEXICO ARE ILLEAGAL IMMIGRANTS. SOME AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE FAMILY LIVING THERE OR ECT. U HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SOME COMPANIES DONT CARE WHAT OTHER PPL THINK BECAUSE ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS BUSSINESS. AND BUSSINESS IS BUSSINESS!!!

It doesn't matter who is sending the money. The fact is that it is being removed from the American economy and taxes are not being collected on it.

Mexico takes more than it gives back.

Dixie

NewBreed, Welcome to ALIPAChttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/cmmsdm/smilies/hat.gif

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U HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SOME COMPANIES DONT CARE WHAT OTHER PPL THINK BECAUSE ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS BUSSINESS. AND BUSSINESS IS BUSSINESS!!!

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Which is exactly why we have an illegal alien problem in the first place.

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WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG

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Well Rodney, it's like this: certain ethnic groups find it convenient to be victims of the oppressor race. As long as that remains true, we will never be able to just get along.

This IS what we are reallt fighting: Greed that will sell out this country to the highest bidder. Shameful.

Newbreed:

Hi there, welcome to ALIPAC.

Can I ask a small favor? Can you please lose the ALL CAPS, please?
(Thanx)

Speaking of greed, I just read that Halliburton has moved their corporate offices to Dubai. That's after we give them billions for their concession in Iraq.

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This IS what we are reallt fighting: Greed that will sell out this country to the highest bidder. Shameful

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Absolutely true!

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NOT ALL PPL WHO SEND MONEY TO MEXICO ARE ILLEAGAL IMMIGRANTS. SOME AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE FAMILY LIVING THERE OR ECT.

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NEWBREED, do you agree that this is part of what keeps the corrupt Mexican regime afloat?

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U HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SOME COMPANIES DONT CARE WHAT OTHER PPL THINK BECAUSE ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS BUSSINESS. AND BUSSINESS IS BUSSINESS!!!

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Trust me, NOBODY here forgets that. Shouldn't these companies be hiring American citizens and paying a fair wage? Shouldn't Mexicans be demanding this in Mexico as well?

If you read enough of my posts, as well as others, you will see that most of us support a good government, middle-class, and descent life for the people of Mexico. Supporting the current sytem does nothing but keep globalist oligarchs like Bush and the Mexican regime in power. The Mexican government would like nothing better than to keep the Mexican people poor, and themselves in power. The US government would like nothing better than to turn the USA into a Third World country by gutting the middle-class......Open borders supports those very goals. If you really support quality standard of living for all peoples, support sealing the safety vavle for the failed Mexican regime. Support overthrowing the Mexican oligarchy, and the American one at that (by democratic process for us), so Mexico and America can both have peace and prosperity.

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NOT ALL PPL WHO SEND MONEY TO MEXICO ARE ILLEAGAL IMMIGRANTS. SOME AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE FAMILY LIVING THERE

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Is there a reason that you mentioned this? What you said is true and I don`t think that there is a member on this board that disagrees with you.

I may be wrong and please correct me if I am, but for some reason it sounds that you may have 1 or 2 disagreements toward something mentioned here.

Please feel free to express them. We will be happy to explain or iron out any misunderstandings or disagreements.

I wonder how long it's going to take for someone to ask the President what he's being paid for selling us out, and his cronies too.