Thread: Child Tax Credit for illegal immigrants

Has the Child Tax Credit for illegal immigrants been eliminated in the new tax proposal? I haven't seen anything addressing the issue, but maybe I just missed it.

Originally Posted by MW

Has the Child Tax Credit for illegal immigrants been eliminated from the new tax proposal? I haven't seen anything addressing the issue, but maybe I just missed it.

MW, I think there is something about it recently here at Alipac per the tax reform proposal. I believe it said that it was to be eliminated though not certain. I will look for it but someone else may better answer and provide a link.

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

MW, I think there is something about it recently here at Alipac per the tax reform proposal. I believe it said that it was to be eliminated though not certain. I will look for it but someone else may better answer and provide a link.

Thank you. I know there was talk about getting rid of it earlier in the year but haven't seen anything recently. The new tax plan proposal is the perfect opportunity to get rid of it, but as I said, I haven't seen anything on it.

MW, this is one article on Alipac.


https://www.alipac.us/f12/gop%92s-ta...grants-352269/

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said he wanted the bill to include a $2,000 refundable child tax credit, a policy that has been endorsed by White House adviser Ivanka Trump.

(above quote from the alipac link listed).

So being talked @ and if they give amnesty to daca and still continue taking illegals fake id, tn# for tax credits, something has gone seriously awry in trump camp.
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Read articles @ the IRS no longer allowed to accept the tn# to give out the thousands of dollars per illegal, (illegals collected for nieces, nephews that live in mexico, often up to 12 children). This is what obama did to Americans. He worked thru Democrat majority cities & Democrat governors, cities like Philadelphia, Boston etc and funneled monies to push his agendas. Am sure it happened across the country but I as a Northeasterner can only speak @ what I saw. Our cities will never be the same unless trump lives up to his promises and does whatever is necessary to rid us of illegals.

Living in a sanctuary city, many mailers with obviously a hispanic family pictured on the postcard, were received in the USPS mail, sender city of Philadelphia that probably rec'd federal funding to do that or the city misused our taxpayers' monies for those mailings. The large expensive postcards pushed to file for the earned income tax credit for children with tele#,links etc. Sickening! They received $10-12,000 back EACH every year from the IRS ALL WHILE BEING IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY!

Whether it is introduced legislation or written in stone now, no monies for tn#s, no more fake SS # and they are to inform any misuse of one's SS #.

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

MW, this is one article on Alipac.


https://www.alipac.us/f12/gop%92s-ta...grants-352269/

Thank you very much. Guess I missed it. Hopefully the exclusion will survive the Senate.

Originally Posted by MW

Thank you very much. Guess I missed it. Hopefully the exclusion will survive the Senate.

You are very welcome, MW. I too, hope the exclusion survives.

$23 Billion in Credits Claimed by Illegal Immigrants Would be Canceled Under GOP Tax Bill

By Jack Davis
November 3, 2017 at 8:23am


Illegal immigrants will no longer be able to claim billions of dollars in tax credits under the Republicans’ tax overhaul plan.


Currently, an estimated $23.1 billion a year flows to the families of illegal immigrants through the child tax credit, the American Opportunity Tax Credit and the Earned Income Tax Credit, according to The Washington Times.


Illegal immigrants are able to claim the credits because the Internal Revenue Service allows them to use IRS-issued Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers. The IRS issues those numbers on the grounds that it wants illegal immigrants to pay their taxes.
That claim has been attacked by some.


“It’s just a farce to say it was created to collect taxes,” Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, told Fox News. “It’s nothing but a welfare program designed for illegal immigrants. ITINS are for tourists or illegals. No ITIN filer is eligible to work in the United States.”


The new bill would eliminate the use of these numbers, and require anyone who claims a tax credit to have a valid Social Security number.


Rep. Luke Messer said that it is high time for a change.
“The cost of this broken policy has fallen squarely on the shoulders of the people it’s designed to help – hardworking American families. And the numbers are astounding,” the Indiana Republican wrote in an op-ed for The Herald Tribune.


“A U.S. Treasury inspector general report estimated that up to $7.1 billion is paid out each year to illegal immigrants and individuals illegally claiming children through the Child Tax Credit. For context, that’s equivalent to Indiana’s entire annual budget for K-12 education,” he said.


White House Budget director Mick Mulvaney said the issue is one of fairness to American citizens.
“How do I go to somebody who pays their taxes, and say, ‘Look, I want you to give this earned income tax credit to somebody who’s working here illegally’? That’s not defensible,” Mulvaney said earlier this year, as reported by the Washington Examiner. “And it’s a reasonable accommodation to simply ask them for Social Security numbers.”
Others agree.
“If you don’t have a Social Security number, you shouldn’t be getting a tax payment,” said David North of the Center for Immigration Studies. “It keeps happening and nobody pays attention.”


As a candidate, President Donald trump criticized the tax credits flowing to illegal immigrants and vowed to stop the practice.
Legislation accomplish what is now part of the tax overhaul plan was proposed earlier this year by Rep. Patrick McHenry, who called his bill the “No Free Rides Act.”
“This is simply unacceptable. By introducing the No Free Rides Act we ensure these illegal immigrants will not receive any more benefits intended to help American families,” the North Carolina Republican said in a statement, according to The Hill.

https://www.westernjournalism.com/23...-gop-tax-bill/

“A U.S. Treasury inspector general report estimated that up to $7.1 billion is paid out each year to illegal immigrants and individuals illegally claiming children through the Child Tax Credit. For context, that’s equivalent to Indiana’s entire annual budget for K-12 education,” he said.

Thank you for posting that, artist, I was trying to find the number!! The number in the articles that claim it's $23 billion over 10 years, (CBO), is wrong. That would be $2.3 billion a year which is at least one-third of what we pay out. We can't trust the CBO. They claim it's "bipartisan, non-partisan", it isn't. It's total DemoQuackery Math. And Congress needs to learn how to count so it can provide the proper oversight for this Congressional Budget Office. They're proven wrong on everything every time, so why rely on them at all? Just use your heads and your own calculators.

Cut off the IRS refunds...they should NOT be working here to begin with!

I hope this is EFFECTIVE now for the 2017 tax returns.

E-verify taxpayer funded schools and our healthcare...get them out of here.

Cut off the welfare, food stamps, housing, anchor baby scam.

Make them sell out, pack up and self deport!



THE GRAVY TRAIN IS OVER!

GO HOME AND BUILD "AMERICA" ON YOUR SOIL

GO "DIVERSIFY" YOUR COUNTRY AND TAKE IN THE WORLD'S POOR!

NO MORE PEOPLE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS! SHUT IT ALL DOWN

GET ON BIRTH CONTROL AND GET YOURSELF OUT OF POVERTY...NO MORE MONEY FROM USA!