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    We need info on the Arizona in state tuition for illegasl bill please.

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    William Gheen President of Americans for Legal Immigration

    Published by William Gheen · April 13 at 11:13 AM ·










    Lesa JoApril 12 at 12:52 PM

    AZ URGENT CALL TO ACTION!!!
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    TUITION RATES-ILLEGALS
    WE THOUGHT THAT THE BILL GIVING ILLEGALS DISCOUNTED UNIVERSITY TUITION RATES WAS DEAD,
    BUT IT IS BACK ON THE ACTIVE LIST AND WILL BE HEARD AGAIN IN THE SENATE RULES COMMITTEE
    EVERYONE NEEDS TO RESPOND BY PHONE, AND REQUEST A NO VOTE ON HB2186
    CALL THESE SEANATORS AND ASK FOR A NO ON HB2186
    Sonny Borrelli 602-926-5051
    Karen Fann 602-926-5874
    Eddie Farnsworth 602- 926-5735
    Rick Gray 602-926-5413
    WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT?
    If this bill dealt only with special tuition rates for high school graduates as a means of boosting income to universities, it would only be one of many awful bills that are making their way through the legislature. But it does quite a bit more damage. Here is how. HB2186, previously SB1217, has two components, dealing with two separate statutes.
    ARS 15-1809 This is the front side of the bill. It creates a new tuition schedule as a means of attracting business to community colleges and universities. Nowhere in this section or anywhere else on the bill does it mention DACA, illegal immigrants, or anything remotely resembling those. But, let us look at the other section of the bill.
    ARS 1-502. This is the sneaky part of the bill that does the major damage, by simply adding two words, “POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION” to the statute. This statute deals with eligibility for local and state public benefits. It requires that recipients of such benefits show proof of lawful presence and lists 11 documents that may be used for this purpose. The statute also includes 3 common sense exclusions, that is 3 instances in which proof of lawful presence is not required. HB2186 adds a 4th exclusion, namely POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION. What this means is that any state or local public benefit may be channeled to illegal immigrants if it goes through, or is part of, a postsecondary education benefit. In other words, it is not limited to tuition discounts, and therefore it not only trashes Prop 300 but goes far beyond.
    THEREFORE, WE MUST KILL SB2186, HOPEFULLY THIS TIME FOR GOOD
    CALL THESE SEANATORS AND ASK FOR A NO ON HB2186
    Sonny Borrelli 602-926-5051
    Karen Fann 602-926-5874
    Eddie Farnsworth 602- 926-5735
    Rick Gray 602-926-5413







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    Fann holds tuition bill, has second thoughts on its need

    By Laura Gómez -
    April 16, 2019
    Last Updated: April 16, 2019 12:48 pm

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    Senate President Karen Fann said she’s asking the Arizona Board of Regents whether they need the legislature’s permission to create a new tuition category and plans to sit on legislation to create a new tuition rate for all Arizona high school graduates until she gets an answer.


    It’s the second week in a row that Fann, a Prescott Republican who also chairs the Senate Rules Committee, stalled House Bill 2186 in the panel that reviews the constitutionality of legislative proposals.


    That committee already weighed in favor of the proposal when the original version of the idea, Senate Bill 1217, went before the Rules Committee.


    Fann said Monday she had new questions.


    “I mean, why are we doing the bill?” she told reporters Monday. “If they (ABOR) need legislative approval, then yes… we need to do the bill. If they don’t, then do we need the bill?”


    HB2186 directs ABOR and the community colleges to set a new tuition rate for all students who have graduated from an Arizona high school. It would cover all students, regardless of immigration status. Advocates said it would increase access to higher education and benefit the state’s economy.


    Patrick Morales, legislative director for the Arizona Students Association, said he found Fann’s comments odd.


    “It seems that they keep shifting the responsibility of acting. The policy is up to them,” Morales said. ASA supports HB2186. “ABOR is looking for (legislative) leadership to make sure it doesn’t break Prop. 300 rules.”


    ABOR is responsible for setting tuition rates, but Fann said she wants to know whether the regents can create a new tuition category without direction from lawmakers.


    Arizona statute says
    ABOR “shall… fix tuitions and fees to be charged and differentiate the tuitions and fees between institutions and between residents, nonresidents, undergraduate students, graduate students, students from foreign countries and students who have earned credit hours in excess of the credit hour threshold.”


    Under HB2186, the new tuition rate wouldn’t be tied to residency.


    Christine Thompson, president of Expect More Arizona, an education advocacy group, said she thinks it would be difficult for ABOR to create a new tuition type as proposed in HB2186 because it groups both residents and nonresidents.


    “I think it’s one of those difficult issues, one that could be contested in the courts,” Thompson said.

    ABOR is currently defending a lawsuit brought by Attorney General Mark Brnovich challenging its tuition rates. Brnovich argues the regents have unconstitutionally hiked tuition, and unfairly charge online and part-time students.

    Expect More Arizona has not taken a position on HB2186. A broad coalition of faith, business, labor and advocacy groups have supported the proposal.


    ‘We need leadership’


    Reyna Montoya, founder of Aliento — a community group that works with undocumented youth — is among those advocating for HB2186.

    “If we look at educational attainment, we have a clear problem,” Montoya said. She cited a figure from Expect More Arizona showing only 45 percent of Arizona adults have a two- or four-year degree or trade certificate. HB2186 would make higher education more accessible, she said.


    “We have a clear problem, and we need to be able to propose solutions,” she said.


    Montoya said it’s frustrating to hear Fann suggest the legislature might punt the issue to ABOR.

    “It’s unfortunate,” she said. “Right now we need leadership from the legislative body.”

    HB2186 is the second maneuver by Sen. Heather Carter, R-Cave Creek, to get through her high school graduate tuition proposal. Her original bill, SB1217, cleared the Senate on an 18-12 vote, with five Republicans and all 13 Democrats in favor, but died after House Speaker Rusty Bowers refused to let the bill be heard in the House.


    Carter introduced a strike-everything amendment to HB2186, a Rep. Michelle Udal bill.


    Fann agreed on April 8 to hold HB2186 for further legal review at Sen. Eddie Farsnworth’s request.

    Farnsworth, R-Gilbert, believes HB2186 is unconstitutional because he says it violates Proposition 300, a 2006 voter-approved law that says only people lawfully present in the United States can be eligible for in-state tuition.


    Carter’s legislation would create a new tuition rate that she anticipates would be more expensive than in-state tuition, but less than out-of-state rates.


    Carter previously told Arizona Mirror
    it’s important for this policy idea to pass this session.


    “Every year we wait to do something, it’s another group of students who might be priced out of higher education in Arizona,” she said.

    https://www.azmirror.com/2019/04/16/...s-on-its-need/

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