Thread: WELFARE TO ILLEGALS

gov stealing AMERICAN'S HOME but handing welfare to illegals1.
Reply to: comm-253590376@craigslist.org
Date: 2006-12-26, 10:01AM PST


I don’t think anyone deputes that George W Bush exists only to manage the massive transfer of the nation’s wealth to the CORPORATE CLASS. Here’s a new dynamic. While there’s never a problem in paying for the staggering cost of the Mexican invasion for “cheap” labor, including BILLIONS for illegal’s healthcare, now the government is STEALING AMERICAN’S HOMES to pay back for American use of Medi-Cal. 1 in 10 US births are now MEXICAN ILLEGAL’S ANCHOR BABIES. 1 in 5 births in Los Angeles County are now MEXICAN ILLEGAL’S ANCHOR BABIES.
Add the 18 years of welfare that goes along with it.... You do the math, and this is only ONE aspect of the cost of the Mexican invasion.



LOS ANGELES TIMES,


Delivering dual benefits
Medi-Cal spends about $400 million a year on birth-related care for illegal immigrants. Private hospitals gain.By Evelyn Larrubia
Times Staff Writer

4:17 AM PST, December 23, 2006

Sandra Andrade lay in her hospital bed, overcome with anxiety about her newborn son.

All through her pregnancy, she had worried. The placenta was blocking her birth canal and growing into other organs. She knew she needed a Cesarean: If she went into labor, she might bleed to death.

Now her boy was in intensive care at Women's and Children's Hospital at Los Angeles County USC Medical Center. With his future — and her own recovery — on her mind, Andrade, 36,


was relieved to be spared at least one worry: Who would pay for their care. She'd been without private insurance since the premiums became too costly. But a friend assured her that, even as an illegal immigrant from Colombia, she would qualify for Medi-Cal, the state and federal health insurance program for the poor.

ONE IN FIVE BIRTHS IN CALIFORNIA NOW ARE FROM ILLEGALS. CALIFORNIANS FOOT THE BILL.
Andrade, a clothing exporter, is one of more than 100,000 undocumented women each year who bear children in California with expenses paid by Medi-Cal, according to state reports. They now account for about one in five births.

Regardless of their parents' status, the children are American citizens by law. OTHER COUNTRIES, SUCH AS IRELAND, THAT STRUGGLE WITH THE INVASION OF THIRD-WORLDERS HAVE PUT A STOP TO INSTANT CITIZENSHIP OF ANCHOR BABIES. Many illegal immigrants who might otherwise shy away from government services view care associated with childbirth as something they can safely seek, a protected right.

"I wasn't afraid at all," said Andrade, who came to the United States with her daughters on a tourist visa and stayed here with her boyfriend after it expired. "I'd always heard that pregnant women are treated well here." OUR OPEN INVITATION FOR MORE ILLEGALS..... “I’d always heard that pregnant women are treated well here.


California long has been one of the more generous states in offering such benefits, covering everything from pregnancy tests to postpartum checkups for impoverished illegal immigrants. 'Birthright' citizenship
HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS IN CALIFORNIA ALONE COST ONE BILLION. NO WONDER THERE’S NO HEALTH CARE FOR THE REST OF US.
Such births and associated expenses account for more than $400 million of the nearly $1 billion that the program spends each year on healthcare for illegal immigrants in California, documents and reports show. Only about a dozen other states extend similar benefits to illegal immigrants, according to health and immigrant rights groups.

Although it has not so far figured prominently in the national discussion of immigration reform, a debate is simmering about the costs — and the rights — of illegal immigrants' American-born children.
Some advocates for immigration control want to abolish automatic or "birthright" citizenship for babies born to undocumented women in the United States. They consider it just the first in an unacceptably long line of public benefits flowing to children who were born here only because their mothers broke the law.
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A flap over recouping costs of Medicaid
1. States try harder to recover their losses from providing healthcare to the poor - even seizing homes.
By Amy Green | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor
ORLANDO, FLA.
Ever since Judy Clifford's parents died, she had planned to move with her husband into their Nashville, Tenn., home, which she knew so well.
"I felt like they were still there," says Ms. Clifford, who is retired. "I could see my mother standing at the sink washing dishes and my daddy watching TV, and I wanted to stay in the house because of that."
Instead, the two-bedroom ranch-style home is for sale for $122,000, the subject of a bitter tug-of-war between the Cliffords and TennCare, Tennessee's healthcare program for the poor and uninsured. TennCare has laid claim to the home to recoup the cost of caring for Clifford's mother, who was on TennCare when she died three years ago.
In the face of soaring Medicaid costs, Tennessee and every other state are required to set up a Medicaid estate-recovery program. Many have been launched only recently, and some - like Tennessee's - are becoming more aggressive. Often, they target the home because it's all that's left after beneficiaries have spent their assets to pay for nursing-home care.
But the varied ways in which states are going after these assets have produced confusion, anger, and even lawsuits. When a loved one dies, some families are stunned to lose the home, too, advocates say.
"It's fine that these programs are required by federal law, but people need to know the rules of the game," says Wendy Fox-Grage, policy adviser with the AARP Public Policy Institute. "We're concerned that families are not being notified."
An AARP study determined that the inconsistency of notification was such a concern that the organization commissioned the American Bar Association to do another study focused on consumer protections, she says. Results are expected this spring.
States base their programs on a 1993 federal law mandating that they recover what Medicaid spends on a beneficiary's long-term care. Congress approved the law to prevent states from forcing the sale of beneficiaries' homes while they were still living, in case their conditions improve and they can return home, says Mary Kahn, spokeswoman for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
"The point of the program is to be there for people with no alternative," she says. "If the state is able to recover expenses that they put forth, then that money will be there for the next person down the line who desperately needs help."
States generally notify families about their estate-recovery programs upfront when a beneficiary applies for Medicaid and then again when the beneficiary dies, during the judicial claims process, says Ms. Fox-Grage of AARP. But often, states provide the information as part of a long list of things a Medicaid applicant should know. Not all states inform families of the hardship waivers available to them, either, she says.
James Napier and his family were shocked to receive a letter from the state of Texas about his ex-wife's home after she died in May 2005. She spent the last two months of her life in a nursing home. Now the family owes Medicaid $5,600, and the government has laid claim to the home Mr. Napier and his ex-wife bought together in 1977, which now is in poor condition and valued at $2,500. Texas's estate-recovery program took effect at about the same time Napier's ex-wife died. The state rejected the family's application for a hardship waiver.
"No one had any idea," says Napier, a media consultant in Hot Springs, Ark. "If they had told us up-front that to pay for nursing-home care we're going to want this back out of your estate, I know that we would have ... said we don't want your help. We'll find another way."
Altogether, estate-recovery programs earned $347 million in fiscal 2003, according to an AARP report. But the amounts varied widely: from $86,000 in Louisiana to nearly $54 million in California. The average amount recovered per estate was $8,116 nationally, but as little as $93 in Kentucky and as much as $25,139 in Hawaii.
These sums don't begin to pay for what Medicaid spends. Only eight states recovered more than 1 percent of long-term care expenses. But the report found that states are expanding their recovery programs.
The modest returns prompted Georgia to wait until this year to implement its program, says Fred Watson, president of the Georgia Health Care Association. Mr. Watson is concerned that people don't know about the program because it has received little publicity, and few social workers and hospital staffs know about it.
Some states have tried to remove themselves from the process altogether on grounds it could impoverish beneficiaries' families. In 2001, West Virginia filed suit against the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), challenging the law's constitutionality. A US circuit court ruled in 2002 in favor of HHS, noting that if states don't comply with Medicaid rules they could risk losing their federal matching funds.
In Tennessee, soaring TennCare costs have pushed the state to hire a consulting firm to help collect information from enrollees it later can use to help in estate recovery, and it has worked to get more time under statute-of-limitation laws to aid in estate recovery after beneficiaries' deaths. Repeated calls to a TennCare spokeswoman for comment were not returned.
States are required to exempt certain situations such as when there is a surviving spouse or a child under 21. But Tim Takacs, an attorney and expert on elder law in suburban Nashville, worries that fears of losing their homes, unfounded or not, will discourage some from seeking healthcare. "Our concern is that people will say, 'I don't want my husband to go to the nursing home because then the government will take my house,' " he says.


THE UNACCEPTABLE LONG LINE OF PUBLIC BENEFITS FLOWING TO CHILDREN WHO WERE BORN HERE ONLY BECAUSE THEIR MOTHER BROKE THE !LAW! THE SAD CODA TO THESE ANCHOR BABIES, IS THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ENCOURAGED TO SPEAK ENGLISH OR EMBRACE LITERACY. BUT THEY WILL BE HANDED A MEXICAN FLAG AND TOLD THAT MOMMY AND DADDY DID NOT JUMP THE BORDER, THE BORDER JUMPED THEM, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OWE THEM THE AMERICAN MIDDLE-CLASS LIFE THAT THE REST OF US BUSTED OUR ASSES TO ACHIEVE.
"I think most Americans think that — while they certainly don't want to do anything to harm children — you cannot have a policy that says anybody in the world come here and have a baby and we have a new American," said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation of American Immigration Reform, an immigration control group based in Washington, D.C.

In Los Angeles County's public and private hospitals, undocumented women accounted for 41,240 Medi-Cal births in 2004, roughly half the deliveries covered by the public program. In the four county-run hospitals alone, undocumented women and their newborns will receive more than $20 million in delivery, recovery, nursery and neonatal ICU services this year, according to a county estimate.

State figures indicate that regular births and prenatal and postnatal care cost an average of $3,224 and Caesarean deliveries $5,153.


'I didn't pay anything'

"My husband pays taxes. They take a bunch out of his paycheck," Ludys Ortiz, 36, said as she nursed her newborn son Christian at Women and Children's Hospital, down the hall from Andrade.

Her husband works for $12 an hour washing cars at a body shop.

Ortiz, who entered the U.S. illegally in 2004 from Honduras, worked as a caretaker for children and the elderly, then as a house cleaner.

The pregnancy was unexpected.

"I am embarrassed because I'm not from here, I didn't pay anything and they delivered my baby without my having to pay anything," she said. "But I'm more grateful than ashamed, because there's no sin in asking for help, only in stealing.
THIS WOMAN’S NOTION THAT “WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS” IN PREVALENT FROM ALL ILLEGALS. WHERE DO THEY GET THIS NOTION, THAT DESPITE THE FACT THEY HAVE NO REAL RIGHTS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, THEY JUMP OUR BORDERS AND GET THEM HEAPED ON THEM? THE DRIVE ILLEGALLY, VOTE ILLEGALLY, OPEN BANK ACCOUNTS ILLEGALLY, USE FRAUDULENT ID’S ILLEGALLY. "We all have some rights in life. No matter what, we're human beings," she added. "The only thing that divides us is a few pieces of paper."

The federal government pays them a subsidy: For each Medi-Cal birth, hospitals can count two patients — mother and child — substantially boosting compensation for relatively inexpensive procedures.

Medi-Cal "pays even more than insurance" for obstetrics, said Gary Wells, chief financial officer of the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services.
PRIVATE HOSPITALS MILK THE TAXPAYERS GOING AFTER ANCHOR MOMMAS. Courting patients

As a result, some private hospitals have expanded their delivery wings in the last decade or so, advertising their services on billboards and fliers.

"At one time, there was a billboard next to County-USC encouraging expectant mothers to come to White Memorial," a nearby private medical center, Wells said.

Los Angeles County public hospitals — once so overwhelmed with deliveries that some women underwent labor in hallways — now are quiet. Most recovery beds at Women and Children's Hospital were empty during two visits this fall.

As the county hospitals slowed down, private hospitals — and the clinics that feed to them — became swamped. South Central Family Health Center sends patients mostly to California Hospital Medical Center in downtown Los Angeles, which delivers more than 4,000 Medi-Cal babies a year. Pregnant women enter the nonprofit community clinic by the dozens on Monday afternoons, when three family doctors and a nurse provide prenatal care.

On one recent Monday, Dr. Kathryn White saw 11 patients in the afternoon, at least seven of them illegal immigrants.

One after another they came, needing care for gestational diabetes, anemia, a heart murmur and urinary tract infections. One returned to check her biopsy report. By 4 p.m., White was on her eighth patient and she'd stopped worrying about time.

"I'll give her a full physical," she said, almost to herself, after a teen reported some bleeding. "What am I going to do, give her an appointment for another slot I don't have?"

In some ways, this clinic's full load is a sign of progress in public health. In Los Angeles, 90% of women receive prenatal care in their first trimester, up from 81% in 1996. For Latinas, who make up the vast majority of undocumented women, the figure is 89%.
Undocumented women who rely on Medi-Cal during pregnancy often express gratitude. Some say they feel a bit guilty, but shame seldom enters the conversation, even when the recipients are from a middle-class background.
"What I think is that we're all immigrants in this country…. Those who were born here are merely children of immigrants, which doesn't give them the right to say that the rest of us don't have the rights," said Sandra Escobar, a Salvadoran who came to the U.S. illegally with her accountant husband to escape the collapsing economy and who unexpectedly became pregnant.
"My son will always be the child of an immigrant," she said, gazing at the moon-faced newborn she was nursing at Women and Children's Hospital.

Limited coverage

For many undocumented women, pregnancy and child birth will be the only time in their lives they'll qualify for Medi-Cal or any other state subsidized medical care.

Petra Escobar, a 35-year-old Mexican immigrant who has been living in the United States illegally for 20 years, developed high blood pressure in May while pregnant with her third child. Twice, it shot so high she had to be hospitalized. After the second episode, worried doctors performed an emergency C-section to deliver her seven-month fetus. She said Medi-Cal covered both hospitalizations.

In September, three months after the birth of her son, she had another episode on a busy city street. An ambulance took her to California Hospital Medical Center.

The unemployed former garment factory worker, now ineligible for Medi-Cal, said she received a prescription for a blood pressure medication that costs $100 a month and a bill for $45,000.

It may have to be written off by the private hospital as charity care.

"I don't have that kind of money," she said, arching a brow and showing an empty hand.



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Anchor Babies - Birth Right Citizenship must be ended because we will never be able to control illegal immigration in this country if we leave this abused loophole wide open.

We know what the problem is and that is unscrupulous people that cheat the system and exploit their own children for backdoor citizenship.

The people that have anchor babies to gain citizenship are the most despicable in my opinion. That is no reason to have a child.

Dixie

And the illegal alien baby boom just goes on and on, they do not even have just one child they have many with different fathers. Their agenda is to become the majority in the US. If we cut off the benefits and the opportunities that draw them here they will go back to their own countries. As long as they get everything for free they will stay.